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 Posted: May 03, 2012 - 10:51 PM
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grinner68 wrote:
Hmm Super cruising F-4, Fire and forget medium range missiles, off bore-sight 'winders with a helmet mounted sight and display.
Just for fun hang an ALQ-99 on the center pylon.
While we're at it, we may as well SLEP it, for another 8000-10000hrs, add an AESA radar, one piece canopy, JHMCS, and ALE-55 decoy. |
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southernphantom
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Posted: May 04, 2012 - 12:10 AM
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wrightwing wrote:
grinner68 wrote:
Hmm Super cruising F-4, Fire and forget medium range missiles, off bore-sight 'winders with a helmet mounted sight and display.
Just for fun hang an ALQ-99 on the center pylon.
While we're at it, we may as well SLEP it, for another 8000-10000hrs, add an AESA radar, one piece canopy, JHMCS, and ALE-55 decoy.
Frankly...why not!!  Greece will quite possibly wind up doing that... |
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Posted: May 04, 2012 - 01:30 AM
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Okay, but after all that, are you sure it wouldn't be cheaper to buy all new airframes?  |
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Posted: May 04, 2012 - 02:51 AM
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| Might even be able to shoehorn an APG-79 into the nose. |
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Posted: May 04, 2012 - 02:54 PM
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| Cheaper? Possibly. Worth it to be able to say that you are using a "Viet Nam Relic" as a 4.5 Gen? Possibly. |
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grinner68
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Posted: May 05, 2012 - 06:13 AM
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| A new F/A-18E can cost over 123 million to purchase and another 25 million a year in training and support costs. |
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Posted: May 05, 2012 - 09:00 AM
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Haha, gotta love these enthusiastic type discussions.
As a response to grinner, with no disrespect to the F-4 still kicking and it's life service... but for discussion only it's not likely an ALQ-99 hanging F-4 would be super-cruising
And as for such extensive F-4 modernizations, modification and 8k hr SLEP being thrown around, it's arguable to just buy new build F-18E block II+ which would probably be cheaper, more reliable/less risky and on schedule!
With respect to the F-18E 'purchase' cost estimate above... the Gross Weapon System cost + initial spares is estimated at about $85-88m per unit for FY13-FY14 buys. Very cheap, shhhhh. |
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Posted: May 05, 2012 - 05:52 PM
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If you really wanted to have some fun, you could start looking at the Super Phantom concept from the 80s, mess around with the conformal pod, and wind up with an SDB carrier/EW pod/AAM bay. Drag and RCS impact would be reduced. Not that reducing the Phantom's RCS would do very much, of course 
I suspect Turkey and Greece will wind up with this. Turkey didn't think that buying F-16s would be any better than sticking IAI avionics in their Rhinos, and the same goes for Greece. I expect a service life into the 2020s... |
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