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Do we know if the USAF plans on purchasing any F-15SE's?

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The USAF has no intentions on buying F-15SEs.

This might be an area were a smart defense contractor that has existing missile experience develops what the AF and Navy need on their own.

Spot on. Internalizing the risks tends to compel design performance at budget. This is the only guarantor given how contractors are behaving, see for example "NetFires."

velocityvector wrote:

This might be an area were a smart defense contractor that has existing missile experience develops what the AF and Navy need on their own.

Spot on. Internalizing the risks tends to compel design performance at budget. This is the only guarantor given how contractors are behaving, see for example "NetFires."

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Nice idea but I don't know how likely it is that the risk could be justified to the shareholders. Given how the military can be pretty hard to pin down the specs of any system coupled with Congress playing politics with funding, you might wind up spending a bundle to design and develop something but find a hard time selling and making a profit on.

Okay. So let's see what pursuing conventional procurement pathways delivers to shareholders. Taxpayers can shape this debate considerably now. We can legislate contractors into reorganization, with government controlling what really counts. Game on. Awareness has never been better. See what happens if you fail to police contractors by searching "netfires."

velocityvector wrote:

Okay. So let's see what pursuing conventional procurement pathways delivers to shareholders. Taxpayers can shape this debate considerably now. We can legislate contractors into reorganization, with government controlling what really counts. Game on. Awareness has never been better. See what happens if you fail to police contractors by searching "netfires."

Socialist tripe. Your 'enlightened' perspective suggests that the government has been sitting on the sidelines during these development programs. Clearly you have no clue.

Socialist tripe. Your 'enlightened' perspective suggests that the government has been sitting on the sidelines during these development programs. Clearly you have no clue.

I'm a practical midwesterner and as "socialist" as Hoekstra and Upton. In terms of US military policies most would identify me as "far right wing." So far right that I insist on accountability and responsibility by US corporations same as natural persons. Take your "socialism" claims to the local grade school where you might possibly find a less discerning audience.

I think progress is being made in reforming the procurement process i.e. the adoption of fixed price contracts with the contractor assuming most, if not all, of cost overruns. I don't see private industry investing the humdreds of millions or billions needed to design and develop big ticket items. The F-20 was a great product but didn't succeed because it had no buy-in from government.

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