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 Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 01:13 AM
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| Anyone heard anything about this aircraft? Found this picture on Wikipedia. Says 5 have been built with 24 total being built. It's called the Thunderbolt in Iran. |
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edpop
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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 01:24 AM
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| Also, another question? How much would the twin vertical stabilizers help the performance / speed / handling of the aircraft? |
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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 01:48 AM
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| I'm guessing they did it just to look cool. When it comes to weapons, Iran has a terrible case of *****-envy. |
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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 01:50 AM
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| Due to the relatively small cant angle I believe yaw stability and control should be increased by a fair amount. Also there should be a small increase in pitch authority associated with having the tails canted. This increase in pitch may help somewhat with STOL operations when you need to takeoff more quickly. |
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madrat
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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 04:37 AM
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If you look closely they didn't even reach a consensus of just what one is supposed to look like. Antennas different between prototypes. The nose cones are different. One has a reduced signature intake whereas the other uses the boxy intake of the original Saegheh prototype. Some of the prototypes have no guns, at least one has a single gun. Even the exterior lighting isn't consistent on one to the other. |
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Roscoe
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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 04:52 AM
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You can never have enough tail...
Seriously, twin tails are most often needed on Mach 2 capable jets as the directional stability drops off significantly at those speeds. I doubt this jet is any faster than an F-5 and it did fine with one tail |
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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 08:35 AM
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I thought maybe they were forming a Blue Angel tribute squadron.  |
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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 - 02:56 PM
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| that's what it looks like to me |
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huggy
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Posted: Feb 18, 2012 - 04:44 AM
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| Well,.. let's give up. This is definitely a game changer. |
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geogen
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Posted: Feb 24, 2012 - 09:22 AM
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I'd like to see NASA team up with the Thunderbolt designers and see what really neat improvements could be made on this true classic. No conventional rules apply, open the thought box. Dare to evolve the impossible.
Maybe a mini-F-23 shaped wing with a blended root bulb for added internal fuel... and try all-moving F-23 style canted tail? Maybe convert to an F-20 style w/ enhanced Volvo RM 12 engine pipe? |
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Posted: Feb 24, 2012 - 12:08 PM
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