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 Posted: Dec 27, 2010 - 02:11 AM
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batu731 wrote:
Has an official result been released regarding this crash?
That can take many weeks, even months. Given the fact that this aircraft was completely destroyed ("a smoking hole" as they say with no disrespect intended to the pilot), I would lean towards months. |
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Posted: Dec 27, 2010 - 01:18 PM
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Could it be the flagships are just popular to fly with the pilots (they more associate to these tail numbers) and rack up a disproportionate amount of use and abuse on them?
It's my understanding that flight hours are distributed evenly amongst a unit's birds, no matter what, so as to maintain a good "phase-flow" so the troops aren't overloaded with aircraft in the phase (heavy scheduled maintenance inspections) dock.
My thoughts and prayers go out to CPT Haney's family and friends. I'm also praying that a thoughtful and detailed investigation takes place and proper measures are taken to avoid this happening again. I look forward to the day we only loose airframes instead of the life inside them. |
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Posted: Jan 24, 2011 - 09:36 PM
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Alaska F-22 AIB on recess
Posted 1/24/2011
1/24/2011 - JOINT BASE PEARL HARBOR HICKAM, Hawaii (AFNS) -- Accident investigation board officials for the Alaska-based F-22 Raptor crash recessed, Jan. 14, per the direction of Gen. Gary North, the Pacific Air Forces commander.
The board is set to resume when weather conditions allow further recovery operations of the crash site located near Cantwell, Alaska.
Capt. Jeff Haney, the pilot of the F-22 Raptor, was on a routine, night-training mission and died as a result of the crash Nov. 16.
The accident investigation board has been unable to determine the cause of the accident with the information and evidence available, officials said. The board seeks to ensure all the evidence available at the crash site is recovered to help determine the cause or causes of the accident and the contributing factors to the mishap.
The Air Force and AIB team is committed to conducting a thorough investigation of the crash site to determine the cause and situation surrounding the crash, according to officials.
The joint Air Force and Army recovery team suspended recovery and restoration efforts in December.
Source: http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123239507
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Posted: Feb 25, 2011 - 08:12 PM
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I hate to say it, but the Raptor is turning out to be quite the 'widow maker'. Seems for all the joy one may get in flying the latest and greatest, she'll take you down with her in the end. When performance increases, so does the risk. High price, great reward.
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Posted: Feb 25, 2011 - 09:51 PM
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PhillyGuy wrote:
I hate to say it, but the Raptor is turning out to be quite the 'widow maker'. Seems for all the joy one may get in flying the latest and greatest, she'll take you down with her in the end. When performance increases, so does the risk. High price, great reward.
R.I.P.
How many pilots have been lost in accidents with the F-22 beyond this on in Alaska?
I would say that it is not unlikely that the pilot, rest his soul, lost his orientation and flew in to the ground. |
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Posted: Feb 26, 2011 - 12:19 AM
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AFAIK, two pilots have died in F-22 mishaps. I looked around and found this: http://www.aolnews.com/2010/11/18/steal ... te-higher/
But I also think, while it may be tempting to think this may have been loss of orientation, it seems to me that shouldn't happen quite so easily in an F-22. There's a fairly obvious attitude indicator at the top right of the cockpit console. And even though they were flying at night... I just think this plane is too modern to not have enough safeguards against this. The evidence screams loss of orientation, but it might have been more than that. Wrong altitude calculations or even a flight software error.
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Posted: Mar 01, 2011 - 01:18 AM
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| Im sorry to hear that, this air plane is one of the most deadly munitions in the american arsenal cause of its, very low to zero detectability, but I saw a [Link pending approval] show that made the f-117 even better. dont know |
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Posted: Mar 08, 2011 - 08:35 PM
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Posted: Mar 10, 2011 - 10:17 AM
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Posted: Mar 10, 2011 - 01:21 PM
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| Yes, 115 is the new flagship. It was sent to the paint shop to get its new "tatts" very shortly after 125 went down. It's over here in Japan with us turning and burning. |
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