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Posted: Jul 26, 2010 - 04:28 PM
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Posted: Jul 27, 2010 - 10:52 AM
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Sporty crosswinds indeed! That Spang Viper logged at least 3 landings in 1 pass! And am I seeing things or does the 135 that lands at 3:26 have his AR doors open? Never seen that before. |
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Posted: Jul 27, 2010 - 02:30 PM
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LinkF16SimDude wrote:
Sporty crosswinds indeed! That Spang Viper logged at least 3 landings in 1 pass!  And am I seeing things or does the 135 that lands at 3:26 have his AR doors open? Never seen that before.
I think someone skipped a step in the post-AAR checklist. I was hoping to see a B-52 land with the crosswind crab engaged, but apparently it arrived a day earlier. I was also wondering why would a E-6 and EC-135 Rivet Joint, and Polish Su-17/22 Fitter be at RIAT? I can sort of understand the Rivet Joint because the RAF is getting some, but the E-6?
Do the F-15's and F-16's not do their usual aerobraking in a crosswind? Usually, I see them stand on their tails until they are REALLY slow then drop it down. |
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Posted: Jul 27, 2010 - 05:25 PM
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Lightndattic wrote:
Do the F-15's and F-16's not do their usual aerobraking in a crosswind? Usually, I see them stand on their tails until they are REALLY slow then drop it down.
Dunno. I could venture a guess and say it's a safety thing. If the wind is gusty you may wanna get down faster to keep from getting a nasty surprise while still riding the mains like you'd normally do. However the first Raptor in the clip seemed to aerobrake for quite a while, so who knows?  |
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Posted: Jul 27, 2010 - 07:53 PM
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Agreed, sometimes when you’re looking at the runway centerline out the side of the canopy instead of thru the front, it’s best to get the nosewheel steering engaged fairly soon. With the nose in the air, even though you can cross-control the Viper on the mains, in really gusty winds it’s probably not worth keeping the nose up to kill another few knots.
The worst situation to get into is to pick up a little downwind drift while you’re trying to get the cross-control inputs applied, now you have take some out to steer it back upwind and then start over. I don’t know about the Eagle.
Cross-controlling the Airbus SS FBW in gusts on the ground prior to derotation is touchy also but at least you can land it wing-low, so you’re starting with the right control inputs already in place. Sad to say the autopilot does it even better.
But in the video the C-17 performs the best crosswind landing of the bunch, and I assume it’s a FBW. Maybe it was an autoland.
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Posted: Aug 14, 2010 - 06:26 AM
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outlaw162 wrote:
But in the video the C-17 performs the best crosswind landing of the bunch, and I assume it’s a FBW. Maybe it was an autoland.
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Yeap, the C-17 is FBW and that landing looked very smooth  |
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