Forum: Modern Military Aircraft

wouldnt count out the PAKFA, it has 5 AESA radars while the f-22 has one. the Raptor may detect it first but PAKFA by no means is a weak contender.

wouldnt count out the PAKFA, it has 5 AESA radars while the f-22 has one. the Raptor may detect it first but PAKFA by no means is a weak contender.

As I mentioned yesterday in another thread 5 radars all honking away on the PAK-FA should be a dream for the AN/ALR-94.

Then again, would the AN/ALR-94 be able to defeat the LPI techniques afforded by AESA?

Then again, would the AN/ALR-94 be able to defeat the LPI techniques afforded by AESA?

Since the Raptor has been operstional for a few years now, I wonder if the Air Force has pitted a formation of F-22's using the APG-77 AESA radar against another fromation using the AN/ALR-94 to identify the strengths/weakneeses if the two systems. Of course, if such trials had ever taken plance, the results would be classified. I tend to agree with Shep that the US has more more experience in perfecting the LPI techniques and the Air Force probably is developing or has developed means to defeat it in anticipation of such technology appearing in future Russian and Chinese-made 5th gen fighters

Then again, would the AN/ALR-94 be able to defeat the LPI techniques afforded by AESA?

Since the Raptor has been operstional for a few years now, I wonder if the Air Force has pitted a formation of F-22's using the APG-77 AESA radar against another fromation using the AN/ALR-94 to identify the strengths/weakneeses if the two systems. Of course, if such trials had ever taken plance, the results would be classified. I tend to agree with Shep that the US has more more experience in perfecting the LPI techniques and the Air Force probably is developing or has developed means to defeat it in anticipation of such technology appearing in future Russian and Chinese-made 5th gen fighters


The Air Force would never test its systems to make sure that they actually work as advertised, or to detemine any weaknesses that need to be addressed. Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3uaS7pRGqE

The video is good and has more info about the PAKFA but how effective can the f-22 be when only 183 are build for the USAF with the factory shutting down. India alone will have over 250 APKFA with Russia going for an equal amount.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3uaS7pRGqE

The video is good and has more info about the PAKFA but how effective can the f-22 be when only 183 are build for the USAF with the factory shutting down. India alone will have over 250 APKFA with Russia going for an equal amount. the final operational PAKFA will be stealthier and the most advanced version will be the FGFA twin seater Indianized PAKFA. plus with weapons like Brahmos ALCM, kh-31A, kh-25 which all have super sonic flight speeds PAKFA will have better weapons than the f-22. The Harpoon and other subsonic land and ship attack missiles in US inventory are slow and can easily be intercepted by Russian air defences. With many modular missiles families to be inducted on the PAKFA, the Russian will have a low cost, easy to operate strike ability which sadly the US doesnt have.

First of all, I doubt you'll ever see an F-22 used to attack shipping. Secondly, the force won't just be 186 Raptors. There'll also be >2,700 F-35s, plus F-15Cs, F-15Es, F-18E/Fs, etc... Thirdly, you're assuming that there won't be any new weapons added to the inventory.

Let us not forget the very small amount of servicable and crew equiped support assets too that Russia has to now deal with compared to Americas vast fleet. Tankers, EW, ELINT, AWACS, recon, cargo (often over looked but essential for resupply) etc etc, you get the picture.
And as you say America is not standing still with regards weapon development and procurement.
The only thing in Russias favour is its SAM systems, though they're not exactly great for strike or offensive counter air missions neither are they as flexable as fighter jets.
Anyway I don't want to turn this into a context so i'll shut up.

Just back from Barnes & Noble and kicking myself for not remembering the title of the mag but included therein was a PAK-FA/Sukhoi T-50 review.

The auther claimed great insight into the Russian Aerospace industry and claimed that a 5th gen engine to match that airframe is a good 10 years away. If that's true, it spells big problems. And I'm not sure any infusion of Indian money is going to fix that...