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cywolf32 wrote:
I don't get it really. The tooling is paid for. So for outside some storage cost, what is the problem? It can't be that difficulte to decide that you want to keep this in storage just in case. The money involved would be pennies on the dollar.


Without trying to sound like a smart alec; I think the dizzying factor truly impacting USAF's Procurement budgets going forward is the de facto, all-cannibalizing F-35A budget reality (via both increased development and accelerated LRIP procurement).

Unfortunately, almost nothing will survive this rapidly entailing, absolute cannibalism soon to be witnessed (perhaps soon to be realized by Congress and AF, not sure).

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cywolf32 wrote:
I don't get it really. The tooling is paid for. So for outside some storage cost, what is the problem? It can't be that difficulte to decide that you want to keep this in storage just in case. The money involved would be pennies on the dollar.


and it's just a 1 time cost. You build a huge secure warehouse on a military installation and you only need to keep the tooling till the replacement for it comes online. Then you destroy it and have the storage space for the next set of tooling and on and on. Seems for the most part, the only recurring cost would be a minimum amount of electricity.

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Afraid Mr. Gates would see retaining tooling as a possible threat to the F-35. Some folks will say (and rightly so) in the future when the F-35 gets to be almost as expensive as the F-22 with much less capability, why not just make more F-22s. That is what happened with the CX which later became the C-17. Lockheed offered to use the C-5A tooling which they had retained for 10 years and re-start the line to make 50 more C-5Bs thus delaying C-17 production almost 10 years. By the way, the re-start of the C-5B line after 10 years with tooling not being maintained went extremely smoothly.
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I wouldn't compare the F-22 to a C-5. A big plane that moves things is actually less complicated than a smaller plane with all sorts of crazy electronics and materials goin' on...
I don't think saving the tooling will be as cheap as everyone says, but that doesn't mean it won't be worth it to have it around. Crazier things have happened than wanting to build more fighter jets.

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