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The main thing to remember when doing a powerback is to bring the aircraft to a stop using a firm application of the wheel brakes.

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Interesting tidbit about the Viggen TRs. the engine was US-made, but the TR was a domestic add-on.

(I was privileged to fly in a Viggen during our Test Pilot School field trip to the Swedish Flight Test Center...one of the most memorable rides of my life!)

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Yes, to second (or third?) thrust reverser systems are heavy, much heavier than a simple drag-chute system.

On the 'power-back' or 'backing-up' issue with TRs, it does lead to FOD, and hot-gas ingestion, esp in something like a fighter with little, to no by-pass air.

Here are some TR diagrams.

The last diagram is the 'tested' TV/TR nozzle developed for the F100/F-15 installation. Tested in the S/MTD F-15 by NASA.

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Roscoe wrote:
Interesting tidbit about the Viggen TRs. the engine was US-made, but the TR was a domestic add-on.


Was a US 'design' the PW JT8D which was a 'civil' engine. Built under licensed with the Swedish afterburner as the RM8. PW 'assisted' with the overall design of the engine, but the motors were produced in Sweden. They were manufactured by Svenska Flygmotor, who became Volvo Flygmotor, now is Volvo Arero.

The actual thrust reverser was part of the airframe, aft of the engine.

Cheers It's cool you got to fly one Roscoe!

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I think all swedish jetfighters have used american or british engines, some more modified, some less but most, if not all of them, were built in Sweden. There was always a wish to be self-reliant when it came to defense round here even if it´s less so nowadays.

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Compared to the Gripen the Viggen seems slow and needs lots and lots of runway to take off under similar circumstances. Thumb

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muir wrote:
I think all swedish jetfighters have used american or british engines, some more modified, some less but most, if not all of them, were built in Sweden. There was always a wish to be self-reliant when it came to defense round here even if it´s less so nowadays.

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Compared to the Gripen the Viggen seems slow and needs lots and lots of runway to take off under similar circumstances. Thumb


Yeah, performance aside though, I loved those Drakens and Viggens and now the Gripen.

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