Forum: F-16 Procedures

Why do these threads always seem to get off the subject????? Anyhoot here we go....... The stick pretty much works like a mouse in simplest terms. The pilot inputs a force/direction on the stick in the area he wishes to travel. The Flight Control Computer then interprets this movement/force on the side stick controller, after which it sends this input to the correct servoaccuators @ the flight controls to complete this manouver based on source code ,air data computer, and gyroscope information via the FLCC. There is no direct connection to the flight control actuators and the stick. They are electronically controlled and hydraulically actuated via the FLCC based on inputs mentioned above. And as a quote from the past comes to mind, "pilots don't fly the viper, it flies them".

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johnwill wrote:

Not just weight saving, but more responsive maneuvering due to the negative stability margins available with full FBW, lower drag with a lifting tail, more room for fuel, lower cost, and higher reliability without all the mechanical clap-trap.

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cywolf32 wrote:

And as a quote from the past comes to mind, "pilots don't fly the viper, it flies them".

Interesting statement. Is it open for discussion here?

Very Happy

regards, OL

(I'll have a "Royale" with cheese)

maddog2840 wrote:

yasirbhojani wrote:

I was wandering, how does the stick of F-16 actually work ???

1. Push stick forward, things on the ground get bigger.
2. Push stick back, things on the ground get smaller.
3. Push stick left and things tilt to the right.
4. Push stick right and things go back the other way.

GUMS gets real technical sometimes.

Not that I'm [Link pending approval]

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Ok fair enough, but not completely scientifically correct because:

1. Push stick forward, things on the ground get bigger until things will start getting smaller again depending on your flying height
2. Push stick back, things on the ground get smaller and eventually in opposite to point 1 become bigger again

MAd D, all you are doing is getting the poor guy confused instead of giving a simple [Link pending approval]

So to keep it [Link pending approval] push the [Link pending approval] move and depending on which position you take from the plane, the environment subject to movement varies. So, let's say you're IN the viper, yes indeed, the environment around you moves. The catch is, that it depends as well not only on your location to the plane, but the location of the plane towards the environment in itself. Allow me to give a simple example; with certain stick-moves in, let's say for instance being airborne (which is a state you can sometimes find yourself in while being inside the F-16) there will be movement possible in all possible directions compared to being on the ground. Here, certain moves will not result in any movement at all. In those situations, the term "speed" will come into play, opening a wide variety of different movement-options depending of course of your position to the aircraft in the event of change of stick direction (in the viper as you know by now more being considered as applied pressure)...

I'm hungry for milk 'n cookies [Link pending approval]*wanders off*

panzer wrote:

So to keep it simple...you push the stick...things move and depending on which position you take from the plane, the environment subject to movement varies. So, let's say you're IN the viper, yes indeed, the environment around you moves. The catch is, that it depends as well not only on your location to the plane, but the location of the plane towards the environment in itself. Allow me to give a simple example; with certain stick-moves in, let's say for instance being airborne (which is a state you can sometimes find yourself in while being inside the F-16) there will be movement possible in all possible directions compared to being on the ground. Here, certain moves will not result in any movement at all. In those situations, the term "speed" will come into play, opening a wide variety of different movement-options depending of course of your position to the aircraft in the event of change of stick direction (in the viper as you know by now more being considered as applied pressure)...

heh, heh.

regards, OL

(It worries me a little that I understood most of what you said)

Edit:
Opss! some one already answer my bad.

@yasirbhojani
what ever u want to do, use your "stick". its force sensitive.

@Mechanic
I believe hornet is FBW but its stick MOVES and not force sensitive, its movement sensitive ...right?

regards
yasser

Forum: F-16 Procedures

How does the stick work ???