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Lieven
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We received the following question via the sites contact us form:

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Dear Sir is it true that the spare parts for F 16's come from China?


I would assume the answer is 'no' but I can't tell for sure. Anyone who can shed a light on that?

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I highly doubt it... Especially since China isn't a partner in F-16 production and is a communist state...

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10 USC Sec. 2533b

TITLE 10 - ARMED FORCES

Subtitle A - General Military Law

PART IV - SERVICE, SUPPLY, AND PROCUREMENT

CHAPTER 148 - NATIONAL DEFENSE TECHNOLOGY AND INDUSTRIAL BASE, DEFENSE REINVESTMENT, AND DEFENSE CONVERSION

SUBCHAPTER V - MISCELLANEOUS TECHNOLOGY BASE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS

Sec. 2533b. Requirement to buy strategic materials critical to
national security from American sources; exceptions

-STATUTE-
(a) Requirement. - Except as provided in subsections (b) through (j), funds appropriated or otherwise available to the Department of Defense may not be used for procurement of -
(1) the following types of end items, or components thereof, containing a specialty metal not melted or produced in the United States: aircraft, missile and space systems, ships, tank and automotive items, weapon systems, or ammunition; or
(2) a specialty metal that is not melted or produced in the United States and that is to be purchased directly by the Department of Defense or a prime contractor of the Department.

(b) Availability Exception. - (1) Subsection (a) does not apply to the extent that the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of the military department concerned determines that compliant specialty metal of satisfactory quality and sufficient quantity, and in the required form, cannot be procured as and when needed. For purposes of the preceding sentence, the term "compliant specialty metal" means specialty metal melted or produced in the United States.
(2) This subsection applies to prime contracts and subcontracts at any tier under such contracts.

(c) Exception for Certain Procurements. - Subsection (a) does not apply to the following:
(1) Procurements outside the United States in support of combat operations or in support of contingency operations.
(2) Procurements for which the use of procedures other than competitive procedures has been approved on the basis of section 2304(c)(2) of this title, relating to unusual and compelling urgency of need.

(d) Exception Relating to Agreements With Foreign Governments. - Subsection (a)(1) does not preclude the procurement of a specialty
metal if -
(1) the procurement is necessary -
(A) to comply with agreements with foreign governments requiring the United States to purchase supplies from foreign sources for the purposes of offsetting sales made by the United States Government or United States firms under approved programs serving defense requirements; or
(B) in furtherance of agreements with foreign governments in which both such governments agree to remove barriers to purchases of supplies produced in the other country or services performed by sources of the other country; and
(2) any such agreement with a foreign government complies, where applicable, with the requirements of section 36 of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2776) and with section 2457 of this title.


See also "the Berry Amendment" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_Amendment

So if there are Chinese Viper parts floating around the world, you shouldn't find them on US Vipers; if so, someone could be going to jail...

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Note that this law only covers specialty metals, but just about every F-16 part has specialty metals, especially the electronics. The wikipedia link discusses what appears to be a lessening of some of the restrictions imposed by this law, with the advent of desirable COTS solutions. About the only COTS parts you could buy for the F-16 are batteries, though.

That said, it's not likely you will find Chinese parts on F-16s. When the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) sources a part, the bidders have already gone through a qualification process to certify that they are indeed capable of producing the part they are trying to get a contract to produce. Lots of companies won't make the cut at even this level.

Once the part is sourced to a particular company, lots of other things happen too; there may be certification inspections, first-article inspections, audits, etc. The end result is that in almost every case the part that you install into an F-16 is of American origin (BAe, ELBIT, and other notable international companies excepted).

But if you think that F-16 parts are made in the same factories in China that make toys, that is not true. Yes, from time to time some doggy parts make it into the supply warehouse, but that is what the DR program is for.

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I'll check and see if we bought any parts from walmart.

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