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outlaw162
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 03:33 PM
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I've been wanting to use this emoticon...... (until now never had a reason)
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 03:37 PM
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| Well, we may not have the same political views, but as Davy Crockett said: poly-ticks are bloodsuckers, atl least we both have a love for the same country, Air Force, and plane. |
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outlaw162
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 03:50 PM
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Agreed.
I do believe even a president should be allowed to participate in some sexual activity during his term. I would think it would make his days go better. Sarkozy comes to mind.
regards, OL
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 03:54 PM
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yeah, and besides hillary's a dog, she looks like a cross between Lois Griffin and an A-10
btw I like the A-10, but they could've done something to make it prettier. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 05:43 PM
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ptplauthor wrote:
I like the A-10, but they could've done something to make it prettier.
They did. They got rid of that ugly Europe One camo.
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People, seriously! No one is going to take our religions or our birthdays away, so let's dispense with the paranoid, "Michigan Militia" Bravo Sierra, shall we?
I really have to laugh. It's almost like I'm a fortune teller. I predicted this would happen the way it did from the night John Kerry lost in 04. Ok, sure, I wasn't quite certain between HDR-C or Obama. But, I knew it would be one of those two. Sure enough, it not only happened, but it came down to those two for the nomination. The DNP is generally easier to read than "See Spot Run".
So, now we have the Democrats controlling the Executive and Legislative branches. If Obama gets the judiciary nominations that he is hoping for, the Supreme Court will have a liberal bias as well.
The Democrats now find themselves in a complete mess, and it will be up to them to start fixing things. Don't like how they fix them? Well, I suggest that in 2 years, you go to the polls, and vote for the other guy/gal on the ticket. Then, in 2 years after that, if you still aren't satisfied, then I'd suggest voting for the other Presidential nominee.
As an aside, I'd have to agree with Outlaw. With Clinton, Monica might've been under the desk, but at least the budget was balanced, AND we had a surplus at the end of it all. Where did it all go in 8 years?
Remember, if you are dissatisfied, then this isn't forever. America gets through its problems, because we get out and vote. There will come a point, when people get tired enough of Democratic politics, that they will start voting these folks out of office.
People got tired of Democrats before. That's why Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, and Bush Jr. were all elected.
On the flip side of the coin, people have been tired of Republicans before. That is why FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, and Obama were all elected.
It comes and goes folks. It's all temporary.
So, my point is, when there is an election, even if it's just for the mayor of your hometown in Podunk, Arkansas, get out and vote. If you don't vote, you have no right to complain. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 06:57 PM
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Our country is slowly slipping to socialism... The next thing you know, in the long shot it could turn communist in hundreds of years. We can't set this type of foundation for next generations.
It's scary the fact obama actually became a candidate too because he is secretive about his personal life, his birth certificate seems fraudulent, and he's too young. He also lied a lot during the debates. I think he is going to cut budgets on the military and nasa.
See, for me i would rather have my tax money going towards our military and the space program more than it going towards socialist programs i don't believe in. Last year Congress did sweeping budget cuts to Nasa, and then Nasa was underpaid 500 million dollars than bush originally wanted. The director of nasa called these cuts Draconian and accused the Democratic majority of congress for using the space program and it's employees as a piggy bank for liberal spending. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 10:55 PM
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rixile wrote:
The next thing you know, in the long shot it could turn communist in hundreds of years.
Really? Would the Constitution really allow that? And will any of us be alive for it to matter then?
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he's too young.
Last I checked, 35 was the minimum age. President-elect Obama is 47. Jack Kennedy took office at 43.
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I think he is going to cut budgets on the military and nasa.
Well, after every war, there's always a drawdown. There are some programs, which I would agree either need to be cutback, or scrapped entirely. Fact of the matter is, that if we are to balance the budget, some changes do need to be made.
As far as NASA goes, I'm one of the biggest supporters of the space program. I think it is important for, not only the US, but for the world in general. Hopefully, more cooperation with the Russians on the ISS will eventually lead to some much needed repairs in US-Russian relations.
Do I think that going to the moon any time soon is as important? Not really. We've been there, done that, and won the Space Race the minute Armstrong and Aldrin touched down in '69, so to speak.
We should worry about what is really important right now, like balancing the budget, and changing what is obviously broken in Washington DC, and the country in general.
We have a bad reputation right now as American World Police. It's time that we get back to being American Police.
It's like I stated before folks. This is all temporary. If you don't like it, then in 2 years, I'd suggest you elect a new Senator and Congressman. 2 years after that, if you still don't like it, then elect a new President. The power, and the decision are in our hands...and if you choose not to vote, then I don't want to hear you b!tch, whine, moan, or complain. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 11:13 PM
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TC wrote:
ptplauthor wrote:
I like the A-10, but they could've done something to make it prettier.
They did. They got rid of that ugly Europe One camo.
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yeah, yuk. Doesn't even look good on the DUFF
But yeah, things may get beeter, they may get worse, who knows, they may even stay the same. No matter what happens, Biraq is only going to serve one term, and if he pulls our troops out of Iraq, he'll have tons of egg on his face when the country collapses like a house of cards and we have to go back in and spend even more money. The way I see it, were at least 3/4 of the way through the Iraq war.
And there's no way we're going to be able to leave them be after the UN mandate ends. And aren't ew the biggest dog in this yard, who's the UN to tell us what to do? |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2008 - 12:19 AM
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The next thing you know, in the long shot it could turn communist in hundreds of years.
Really? Would the Constitution really allow that? And will any of us be alive for it to matter then?
We may not be around, but my grandkids, and their kids will be. Have you missed all the the talk from the left about the constitution being out of date and the fact that it needs an overhaul? No one to stop them now, but your right, I'm just paranoid. |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2008 - 12:32 AM
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TC wrote:
...With Clinton, Monica might've been under the desk, but at least the budget was balanced, AND we had a surplus at the end of it all. Where did it all go in 8 years?
Gotta pick nits with ya there. They were projected surplusses forecast into FYs well after BJ left office assuming spending rates went unchanged (like THAT ever happens). We never actually got the cold hard cash in hand. The nanosecond Congress heard the word "surplus", they conveniently overlooked the "projected" part and ginned up new spending programs to see how fast they could outspend each other and by the time the dust cleared, those "surplusses" had been turned back into deficits. |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2008 - 12:59 AM
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The BUDGET surplus for 2000 was an ACTUAL $230 billion. A portion of it was used to pay down the national debt. Two different things.
The surplus was PROJECTED to grow to $1 trillion in 10 years.
That part didn't work out.
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Posted: Nov 06, 2008 - 01:03 AM
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where did the money go?
It went to protect this great nation. When someone knocks down two of your buildings and murders two thousand-plus citizens and vows to destroy your nation, do you sit back and let him. I know you probably know it better than me, but we are at war, if Algor had won the election what would he have done? |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2008 - 04:55 AM
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outlaw162 wrote:
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We've left the Constitution behind in so many ways already. The Federal Government is reaching into the affairs of the States in ways which should never have been tolerated. Why should the federal government have a say in local schools? Why should the feds have a say if I want to make my own solid rocket fuel if it's not transported across state lines? Why is this not a state, county, or local matter? Why do I need a state license to drive a car, but a federal license to fly a plane? What business of the Federal Government is it if I want to distill my own liquor to consume in my own state, county, and city? Heck, that's only Tenth Amendment stuff. I could go on, but I'll save you the need for the pink liquid.
I could go on about the Constitution in general, such as where does the Federal Government get the idea that they have the right to take my tax money and give it to someone in another state? Where do they get the idea that they should have any say in the content of the media ("fairness doctrine")? Where do they get the authority to have any say in health care?
Didn't this all occur BEFORE this election? Under PREVIOUS administrations?
Possibly under ones you were more partial to.
regards, OL
Yeah, it's already happened which is why I was saying that we've already left the Constitution behind. I don't think McCain would have been perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but at least he didn't espouse the opinion that it's a good idea for the government to take the money at gunpoint that someone earned (trust me, if you don't pay they will arrest you and if you resist there will be guns on you) in order to give it to someone who didn't earn it. He didn't promise to give 95% of the population a tax cut when only around 60% pay taxes. He also didn't hang out with Bill Ayers and Khalid Rashidi.
McCain did command a fighter squadron and did hold out for years in the Hanoi Hilton. In my opinion, that made him the superior candidate.
One of my huge problems is the thought of the Supreme Court "finding" new meanings in the Constitution. Heller was 5-4 for crying out loud. With Obama in power it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that he'll have an influence on the makeup of the court.
The Constitution has a method for change - amendments. Unfortunately we seem to have become accustomed to its change as a matter of Supreme Court rulings. What the Constitution says no longer matters. The only thing that matters anymore is what nine appointed lawyers say they think it means.
As for where the money went, well, Afghanistan and Iraq.
One nice thought from Iraq - no U.S. soldiers were killed in combat in October. Wonder how that happened?
TC -- I'd like to think it's temporary, but I'll believe it when I see it. Hell, it ain't just the Democrats either. The New York City Council just gave the middle finger to the citizens by somehow allowing Bloomberg to run for a third term even though he was under term limits for 2.
I'm off to go find some food. Have a good night y'all. |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2008 - 05:19 AM
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Leftists obviously display no concern for the Constitution. With enough support they could break it, and the people might support it in a hundred years.
We cannot set that foundation for the generations to come. |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2008 - 05:27 AM
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| I will make sure that the Constitution never dies, every one of my kids will be brought up with proper American, REPUBLICAN values, and each one will serve his nation like his father never could. This country is way too precious to be surrendered to the Liberals like a bunch of wimps.. |
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