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16 F-16C/D for Mexican Air Force, between years 2008-2012.

By Mexican newspaper "La Jornada"

Las comunicaciones del Ejército están atadas a Telmex y satélites privados.

Como informó ayer La Jornada, el secretario solicitó a la Comisión de Defensa una ampliación de 32 mil millones de pesos a su presupuesto, debido a que aeronaves, vehículos y armamento son obsoletos y lo mejor de su equipamiento es el que se presenta en el desfile militar del 16 de septiembre.

Durante la reunión, abundaron los legisladores, el titular de la Defensa les explicó que la flota de la Fuerza Aérea Mexicana consta de aviones con antigüedades de entre 4 y 50 años. En ese momento les reveló que cuando él viaja en esas naves no sabe si llegará a su destino. Informó que los aviones Lockheed T-33, que el año pasado cumplieron 45 años de operatividad, ya fueron dados de baja, y resaltó que los Northrop F-5, que fueron adquiridos en 1982, están a punto de cumplir su vida útil.

En ese contexto indicó que entre 2008 y 2012 el Estado mexicano requiere comprar 16 aviones F-16, en flotillas de cuatro, para lo cual se requeriría una inversión inicial de mil 600 millones de pesos. También planeó la adquisición de artillería antiaérea.

En su exposición, Galván Galván dijo que se requiere modernizar el núcleo terrestre de las fuerzas armadas, porque todos los camiones, vehículos pesados y Hummers están obsoletos.

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i think i need to brush up on my spanish. but i think if i read that right they have 50 t-33's and 45 f-5's. But i know this is goin to sound bad but i didn't even know they had an air force.

Well I hate to say it, but if it's not English I have to use Google Translation... Embarassed

Credit to them... Very Happy

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As La Jornada reported yesterday, the secretary asked the Defense Commission an extension of 32 billion pesos to its budget, due to aircraft, vehicles and weapons are obsolete and the best of its equipment is the one that is presented in the parade military September 16.

During the meeting, full of legislators, the owner of Defense explained that the fleet of the Mexican Air Force consists of aircraft with antiques from between 4 and 50 years. At that time they found that when he travels on these ships do not know if you will arrive at its destination. He reported that the aircraft Lockheed T-33, which last year met 45 years of operation, have already been discharged, and emphasized that the Northrop F-5, which were acquired in 1982, are about to meet their useful life.

In this context indicated that between 2008 and 2012 the Mexican government needs to buy 16 F-16s, four fleets, which would need an initial investment of 600 thousand million pesos. It also planned to acquire anti-aircraft artillery.

In his statement, Galvan said Galvan is needed to modernize the land nucleus of the armed forces, because all trucks, heavy vehicles and Hummers are obsolete.

Well, it won't be too long before enough Texan's are pi$$ed off that Mexico will have to use force to defend the land it has aquired in its "northern territories"...

Hmm... I wonder if those T-33s and F-5s will be on the civvie market anytime soon Wink

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RIIIGHT, Mexico is going to buy Vipers, what the Hell does Mexico have to defend except their Dope, Cancun and Cozumel etc, no one in their right mind would attach Cozumel, Cancun maybe.

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600 thousand million pesos

a classic, is that like a hundred gazillion dollars? Forrest Gump must be doing the negotiating.

They will be fully loaded with drugs and make dropoffs in the United States presumably.

I wonder if they will have TB as a fin flash, with a bell on top?

ACMIguy wrote:

I wonder if they will have TB as a fin flash, with a bell on top?

Oh my!

That's funny.... rude, but funny...

Let's not forget that Mexico's numbers of F-16s would be almost as high as the ANG. (for just one locatoin Wink

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Seriously, what would they do with them?

What would they do with anti aircraft artillery?

What there, is worth bombing?

Who's going to teach them how to fly them..?? Local drug lords I guess..!!

MaddogF16 wrote:

Who's going to teach them how to fly them..?? Local drug lords I guess..!!

Seriously speaking while keeping it professional, suffice it to say that a country needs an air force with capable aircraft able to take off and intercept unidentified aircraft (not UFO's mind you!) or aircraft hijacked and flying to points unknown. A country has to defend its borders against aerial incursions by unfriendly parties. That is the rationale for the multi-billion dollar purchase of fighter aircraft along with spares and support costs.

Mexico has T-33's aged 50 years old and 25 year old F-5E's. Considering remaining flight hours left in airframes, prudent action has to be taken to initiate the planning of replacement aircraft by starting the solicitation of bids for fighter aircraft from all makers worldwide. There is no guarantee that the F-16C/D will win the aircraft tender if other foreign manufacturers give attractive prices for their products.

Considering the size of the country and the number of aircraft to be replaced, I would say that there exists a need for 48 F-16C/D's or aircraft of equivalence. Plus, you will have to consider purchasing tanker support in the form of KC-135R's excessed by the USAF or taking KC-135A's from AMARC for reburbishment into the R model. Or you can buy KC-130J's from Lockheed like the USMC did. Or they can contract for tanker service from a tanker provider who will charge them on a power by the hour rate.

Yes, the Mexicans will need to replace their heavy trucks and humvees. Question begging to be answered is do they need MRAPs? About anti aircraft batteries, never hurst to update them with new models as you never know when you may need them.

If the Mexicans choose F-16C/D's (biased opinion on my part since I love F-16's!), they will want used USAF block 25 to 40 F-16's and would want the aircraft reworded to zero time 8000 hours for 22 years of service.

Suppose the Mexicans like the two engine F/A-18E/F series, then what do we do? Of course, we would sell them to them!

The advantage of buying from the US is its excellent logistics systems and they get to train with USAF or USN pilots in Red Flag events. And engage in professional opportunities to get to know each other better.

So, we will see how it turns out. We may be pleasantly surprised if they choose the F-16E/F with CFT's due to the vast area of the country they have to cover. And that would be more jobs for Texans at LMTAS's plant in Fort Worth!

James Goodwin

Ahh not to be a fly in the ointment BUT what are they going to do with the SU-27/33/35/etc Flankers that the Mexican NAVY is planning on purchasing???

Fly them for 6 months, than blame the maintainers and complain about the quality of the wood the spare parts are made of.
No seriously, in my opinion they should buy helicopters in stead and use them to fight the dope-business.

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Seriously, what would they do with them?

What would they do with anti aircraft artillery?

What there, is worth bombing?

Probably be able to fix them faster since most of the wiring is built in their country anyway.

I had to order a wing harness once guess where it came from?

Not Texas!

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