Forum: F-16.net feedback

Forum Veteran Joined: Nov 07, 2003 - 09:12 PM Posts: 901

I guess a number of us has downloaded photo from Airliners.net. I did a couple myself.

Just a gentle reminder, did F-16.net adhere to the copyright laws spelled out here Shocked

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cheers, Very Happy

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Hi Pumpkin,

You always have to be carefull with these things.

Personally I think that if you put a picture from airliners.net in the forum to ask something or to show something to fellow posters, it wouldn't harm that much, although strictly speaking its a copyright violation. If you just put a link to a picture, that's not a problem.

If you find a picture from airliners.net (or other similar sites) in the photo library, that means that we have asked, and received, copyright clearance from the photographer of the picture. No harm done as well.

Greets,

I posted the previous message before I entered the photo library.

This is an amendment to my previous post.

Please do NOT upload any pictures in the photo library that are not of your own, unless you have a written permission of the photographer of whome you upload pictures of. If you have the written permission (e-mail of course validates as such), please let us know so we can treat the pictures accordingly and in correspondence to copyright issues.

In the stated cases I have removed the pictures from the gallery because we didn't have permissions from the photographers.

Greets,

Forum Veteran Joined: Nov 07, 2003 - 09:12 PM Posts: 901

Bjorn wrote:

Please do NOT upload any pictures in the photo library that are not of your own, unless you have a written permission of the photographer of whome you upload pictures of.

thanks Bjorn, I guess your above reply leaves no room for interpretation. Very clear and concise. May I suggest, if you can add those lines to the short description/instruction given as follows.

"Upload your F-16 photographs here. After review by the F-16.net staff, they will be included in the F-16.net PhotoGallery, with full credit to the photographer. Please provide a short description and credit info!"

I was under the wrong impression, F-16.net will write to the photographer for the necessary permission or the mentioned of the source (in this case Airliners.net) and the full credit given to the photographers are sufficient. Embarassed

cheers,

Ah, you easy guy Very Happy

I'll explain a little. We are going to do that, but its a project that is listed in our long-term and never-ending search for F-16 pictures. I know the airliners.net site, but also the planepictures.net and the jetphotos.net sites very well. If you count the number of F-16 pictures listed on those three websites, you will have over a thousand.

The problem is that you have to ask every single photographer for permission to use his/her photos (which is obvious of course). But you also have to do it through a contact box in these websites (they don't display the photographers e-mail adress due to spam difficulties probably). If you contact too much photographers at the same time, the site will reject these as being spam. So you have to do it on an individual basis.

That is the problem with the contacting and the huge amount of time you put into it.

The second reason why I haven't started this process yet is because I have a backlog of over 400 photographs from photographers who gave their permission to use their pictures. These are easy ones, so they come first. They just have to be processed. This will happen in the next weeks (or so).

Further, to give you an idea on how much time you have to put into it.

From July 2003 (when the site came back online) we roughly added some 2,500 pictures to the gallary. You can count what that is on monthly basis. Sometimes we have to edit the pictures (put them in jpg format for example). This means downloading them, edit them, upload them again. Then we have to think of a interesting captions with all these pictures. Then we move them to the appropriate map. We browse through them and write down their new 'gallery ID' on a checksheet. As last step we have to connect them to the serialsdatabase, which means searching the individual serial and then connecting them.

All this work together can take up to 3 to 4 minutes per picture to complete. You know basic maths: 2,500 x ..... Exclamation

But to end, I will certainly add your suggestion to the picture library's menu.

Greets,

Forum Veteran Joined: Nov 07, 2003 - 09:12 PM Posts: 901

Thanks Bjorn,

that sounds a lot of work! I contributed my very, very humble help on the 2 RSAF photos on Airliners.net. 2 out of the 1166 photos here. Razz

Will try to do more. Cheers, Very Happy

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That is the problem with the contacting and the huge amount of time you put into it.

And even if you would contact them all personally, most of them probably won't reply.

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