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"GLASGOW (Reuters) - A four-wheel-drive vehicle crashed into the main terminal at Glasgow airport on Saturday and exploded in flames, a day after police foiled a possible al Qaeda plot to detonate two car bombs in London."

Full article: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20070630/ ... 6b408.html

This has just happened, from what I have seen in the last few minutes, this Range Rover/Land Rover type vehicle was full of Gas canisters, nails and gasoline. NAILS for god`s sake!

The vehicle was already on fire when it was still moving, trying to crash into Glasgow airport in Scotland, a day after TWO car bombs were found in busy London areas. These cars were PACKED with Gas bottles and NAILS to cause maximum casualties but were defused by Police. The three attacks seem to be linked and co-ordinated. Fortunately, nobody has been hurt, the scum bags in Scotland were immediately arrested trying to get away, initially grabbed by members of the public, those they were trying to kill, very fitting.

I think the bas@&rds responsible for the London cars will be nabbed soon once Scotland Yard and the security services step into high gear.

LUCKILY, they didn`t get their intended targets. Londoners interviewed complained more about the rain in London than being worried about terror! Good on them.

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I'm seeing reports that at least 2 of the Glasgow Goons are MDs. So much for the theory that terrorism is generated by poverty and hopelessness. Rolling Eyes

But at the risk of sounding pollyannish, the British citizenry, God bless 'em, survived the Nazi blitz in WWII and a rash of IRA bombings in the 70s and 80s. What makes the local jihadis (home grown or otherwise) think that detonating car bombs in England is gonna affect a change in the British mindset? Gettin' Britis outta Iraq? Hell...they're in a state of drawdown already. And with Blair gone, they'll prolly sustain only a minimal force at best.

Link`, I think you will be surprised how much Gordon Brown`s policy will resemble Blair`s. His relationship with Bush will be different for sure. Brown is extremely bright, much more intelligent than Blair and was the "natural" leader of his party. Blair looked better on TV that`s why he got the Prime Ministers job and got Labour into power.

Blair was supposed to go years ago but held on, much to Brown`s chagrin. They did a deal years ago, Blair gets Labour into power with his popular appeal and charisma, then he makes way for Brown after a few years. Power is addictive, Blair wouldn`t budge.
I think Gordon Brown has held some kind of veto for quite a while over foreign policy, it has been known for a long time he would take the reigns in June 2007.

You are correct, there is a draw-down of UK troops going on in Iraq, but guess where they are going?...To Afghanistan, not home to the UK. The UK is following it`s original plan in Iraq, draw-down forces and hand power over to Iraqi`s in Basra region. There`s nothing new there, believe me.

If Brown sniffs that the US is going to use the side exit in Iraq, especially with a new President, you can`t blame him for running for the door first, IF it comes to that.

One of the things I laughed my a$$ off at was that the "terrorists" in London tried to detonate the Gas canisters in the cars with cell `phones. That failed. Scotland Yard got the `phones and guess what? They were FULL of numbers the dumb asses had been using. The cops just went straight to their houses and collared them.
I wish all terrorists were as bad at it as these guys. Scratch one entire network.

Yep, two MD`s have been arrested. You know, these are the people who REALLY worry me, fantastic cover, pillars of the community, no terror links, completely under the radar, scary. One day they will get lucky again.

I was watching this as it unfolded. What was first reported and later buried was a report that when the firemen arrived and tried to put out the one on fire, the police were reported to have said, "Let The Bast##d burn."

Anyone else see that?

maddog2840, missed that entirely.

Considering the women and children they were targeting, if I was there I would have pulled the breakers on the damned fire-truck myself. However, the dead don`t "sing", do they?

he looked pretty cooked to me regardless. Well done Smile

Scary part is that there is nothing you can do to prevent these "amateurs" from doing what they do. Besides being alert and having a good police force around, not much you can do.

Chaps, keep this topic clean. If I see it going to ****, then I'm closing it down.

LinkF16SimDude wrote:

What makes the local jihadis (home grown or otherwise).

It seems these guys aren't local at all. One ID'd as Iraqi & another a Jordanian. None are Brits according to the Police.

Where ever these clowns are grown or imported, they need to be stopped. The Brits lucked out, no doubt but we all need to pay very close attention, rich or poor, the fight continues for these crazies....we have got to stop this, the world will never be safe, feels like the sixties and seventies all over again - only far worse

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I was watching this as it unfolded. What was first reported and later buried was a report that when the firemen arrived and tried to put out the one on fire, the police were reported to have said, "Let The Bast##d burn."

I heard that too.
I would be the first one to usually agree with this decision, but being that I also wear a badge for a living, I have to disagree with what the officer said, although i understand his saying it, an officers job is simply put "preserve life". I'm not ridiculing this officer, because I was'nt there. emotions are a bad thing to have in this line of work, but they do creep in. cant be helped. but I dont feel that what he said,or did is newsworthy.
just my Two Cents

I think it should be replayed and increase the volume where he states to let him burn, I would give him a medal (but politics might override although I think the cop was spot on) they taunt us all the time, time we got some back in my book - you have to deal with them on their on level, it is all they understand when it comes to this sub-human behavior...fry the puppy!

Meathook wrote:

I think it should be replayed and increase the volume where he states to let him burn, I would give him a medal (but politics might override although I think the cop was spot on) they taunt us all the time, time we got some back in my book - you have to deal with them on their on level, it is all they understand when it comes to this sub-human behavior...fry the puppy!

I would like to be shown a war that was won by being nice. I can't think of one.

Political correctness is going too far. It's been said that a cause might be that to few men today have been in a fist fight or that too few women have been the cause of a fist fight.

There does come a time when there is no other choice but to rise and fight.

For the record, I agree with putting out the flaming terrorist because it stopped his suicide vest from cooking off and causing casualties. Call me harsh. War is killing by any means. "Rules" are there to minimize innocent deaths. But then they have been disregarded by many nations since Sherman marched to the sea.

It's the professional who knows that in our business the goal is to produce dead bodies. To know that your life is forfeit if need be. That is why the soldier prays for Peace the hardest. Then when war comes, to end it as quickly as possible with overwhelming force. It not a pretty fact but a fact nonetheless.

Let him burn? Sure. You think he was going to stand around with a fire extinguisher in case a child caught fire?

Before you reply to this post, I want you to think about something.

It's this...

The F-16 was not built to do air shows.

maddog2840 wrote:

For the record, I agree with putting out the flaming terrorist because it stopped his suicide vest from cooking off and causing casualties. Call me harsh.

I'm curious as to how this is being reported around the world. I watched FOX and its reporting is typically way off.

Maddogs comments about a vest are way off in this case. This guy seems to have torched himself as he lighted the Jeep Cherokee he was in with a Molotov cocktail. The Jeep was loaded with petrol, gas cannisters and nails. Not the normal explosives such as C4 been mentioned so far.

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It's the professional who knows that in our business the goal is to produce dead bodies.

Your profession is a warrior, yes I agree, high body counts is what its all about.
This OFFICER is not a warrior. His job is to preserve life...
Granted, If not in uniform I would said the same thing, But when you strap up and pin on that star, you are held to a higher standard. And any officer worth his weight in salt would have done anything reasonable to save the mans life. Because he is not a warrior, but a public servant sworn to protect all. Not those he deems worthy to protect.

P.S. I agree that this B*$^#rd should have fried, but have anyone ever received a 3rd degree burn and all the treatments it takes to heal them. VERY PAINFUL... So if they would have tried to save him, Imagine the pain he would have had to go through to recover before he could be judged by the appropriate authorities.

maddog2840 wrote:

I was watching this as it unfolded. What was first reported and later buried was a report that when the firemen arrived and tried to put out the one on fire, the police were reported to have said, "Let The Bast##d burn."

Anyone else see that?

One thing was that also pointed out that when the Police approached the burning suspect; he actually attacked the police shouting "allah" according to the witnesses.

The guy was wearing a suicide vest, which was discovered and defused only once they were in hospital.

Andy

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The guy was wearing a suicide vest, which was discovered and defused only once they were in hospital.

I stand corrected. Not seen any info on this in the news. Maybe been working to long on this site & my attention was distracted when that info came out.

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Attempted car bombings in London and Scotland