Flying lives - patrol - just gone through hot pit - took off - very quickly ran out of gas (had not closed IFR door) - so had to IFE back to Osan Bingo Fuel - witih lives loaded - a lot going on....forgot the gear? Until he heard the ventrals scraping.
Posted by Guest on Sun 23 Aug 2009 03:11:24 PM CEST
You know whats crazy? Everyone is arguing but not saying whats really on their mind. B-1's have way more fire power AND out run the cute little plane. Please upgrade.
Posted by Guest on Thu 06 Aug 2009 11:27:31 AM CEST
Look at the engine nozzel
If the gear handle is up the engine nozzel will be in the full closed position (as you see in the pic), throughout the whole throttle range except burner. In burner it goes full open. The nozzel only schedules open and closed when the handle is down and the throttle is moved from idle to mil power. This helps the aircraft slow down enough to safely land and taxi. That closed nozzel is a real good indication that the handle was up, or the throttle was in mil power.. which doesn't make sense. Why would he land with the gear up on purpose? Even if the engine is off the EPU should provide enough electrical power and hydraulics lower the gear. If the Engine and EPU weren't working there is no whay he could control the aircraft. Inspite of that there is a "T" handle with a mechanical flex cable to dump the emergency landing gear pneumatic blowdown. This uses a 3000psi N2 accumulator bottle and doesn't require hydraulics or electrics to work. The only other angle is that one or both of the main gear failed to come down and the pilot was able to retract and then opted to land with them full up. The main gear free fall to the down and locked position. The nose is powered down. All 3 are powered for retract.
Posted by Guest on Sun 14 Sep 2008 07:51:59 AM CEST
Tailflash
I was at Osan ('89-90) and saw 'Col Al' (the Crew Chief's Pal) dead-stick 86-0251 onto the So. End of the runway. He did in fact leave the IFR door open after our Hot Pit/Alert Scramble (for a photo shoot with some Badger Bombers off the Korean coast). 'Saw the pictures of our flagship in the photo shoot - the IFR door was open the whole time. 'Had to punch off his (full) C/L Tank, as an open IFR door won't allow external fuel to transfer up. 'Think he set an all time record for dead-sticking an F-16 back to base. 86-0251 was packed/crated and shipped to OO-ALC, but never flew again. It was pieced together with a Syracuse (Gulf Vet) F-16A Nose Section and made into a ground maintenance trainer aircraft. It's currently located at Sheppard AFB. (26 Dec 2005)
Posted by Guest on Mon 26 Dec 2005 04:50:13 PM CET
crew chief spangdahlem AFB
you people need to quit saying stupid shit about the pilot when hep put the jet down he saved a 20 million dollar acft and maybe somebodies life cause if the plane would have crashed it could have been alot more serious.
Posted by Guest on Wed 07 Dec 2005 02:52:56 PM CET
samurai two
This mesage is for Viper01, I was there also, the Wing King did get shipped out. the last I heard was he`s flying a desk.
Posted by Guest on Sat 26 Mar 2005 05:15:05 PM CET
eaglered
no problem if you forget the gear down
but the problem if you forget to eject
Posted by Guest on Wed 23 Mar 2005 09:23:13 AM CET
Viper01 (falcon83-1123)
I was stationed at Osan when this happened. I think we ended up with a new "Wing" king after this one.
Posted by Guest on Fri 18 Mar 2005 05:04:23 PM CET
Lenny
Maybe the landing gear has some problems to be put down, and the pilot made a risky landing without gear down.
Posted by Guest on Fri 28 Jan 2005 09:55:33 AM CET
dodo
atleast he destroy all of the plane, just the bits bellow
Posted by Guest on Tue 25 Jan 2005 07:00:41 PM CET
adigeeagle@hotmail.com
he is a fine pilot if i were him i would ejected i cant land without landing gear
Posted by Guest on Mon 01 Nov 2004 11:24:31 AM CET
matt
Indeed the aircraft had an emergency and was told to land gear up. The stabs fall like that when the hydraulic fluid pressure drops, i.e. the engine is off. He did a good job.
Posted by Guest on Fri 06 Aug 2004 06:21:35 PM CEST
Ryan
The F-16 doesnt have "Elevators". Depending on switchology your Stabilators (stabs) are going to move to the center position. The Stabs are an independent sys so they are allowed to move when the jet shuts down. The Flaperons on the 16 or Ailerons on an F-4 will move to the 0 degree position if the cockpit is in the right switchology mode. Or the Flaperons will stay at the 25 degree down position and that is all depending on where the AOA Indexers are at when the ACFT is shut down.
Posted by Guest on Sat 31 Jul 2004 05:23:12 AM CEST
milton san padre
where's the switch?
Posted by Guest on Fri 23 Jul 2004 12:31:51 PM CEST
adiosalaska@yahoo.com
The truth behide this is the pilot forgot to close the IFR door, punched off a full centerline. All after being told to close the door by the hot pit crew and the pit supervisor, me. Even Squadron CO need to listen to the crew chief! Osan 88-91
Posted by Guest on Mon 07 Jun 2004 08:26:10 PM CEST
falcom@home.nl
If you look under the aircraft you will see the foom for a gliding path.
ohterwise you saw the foom also on the aircraft it tells you the story that this aircraft had problems.
Posted by Guest on Thu 15 Apr 2004 05:45:26 PM CEST
Becker
hey BK accirding to a friend the F-16 Elevators go down when you turn the power off.
Posted by Guest on Wed 14 Apr 2004 12:39:19 AM CEST
BK.
He was pitching down. Take a look at the Elevatorst. Hah...that is what you get when you watch too many Kamakazi films.
Posted by Guest on Tue 13 Apr 2004 04:52:41 PM CEST
falcom@home.nl
if somebody sees a picture like this and he is not an airman or crewchief he makes his mind. but the trouth is different mostly.
Posted by Guest on Thu 08 Apr 2004 12:38:25 PM CEST
the general
actually the landing gear would not lower in this case and the pilot heroically landed the aircraft, instead of ejecting and scrapping the aircraft.
Posted by Guest on Mon 05 Apr 2004 08:18:57 AM CEST
bassman1381@yahoo.com
its the little handle with the wheel on it
Posted by Guest on Fri 12 Mar 2004 07:10:14 PM CET
f-16 crew chief
Atleast he lowered the flaps and opened the speedbrakes. he just forgot the most important thing.
Posted by Guest on Tue 27 Jan 2004 10:55:51 AM CET
frank \"stick\"
"check gear down" and air speed.
Posted by Guest on Fri 28 Nov 2003 06:35:28 AM CET
doug6666@ms36.hinet.net
Nice recovery for aircraft
Posted by Guest on Tue 04 Nov 2003 10:39:54 AM CET
Catch
remember step one on a landing is to put your landing gear DOWN
Posted by Guest on Mon 20 Oct 2003 08:39:39 PM CEST
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