Reports of F-35B Crash/Pilot Ejection MCAS Beaufort

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Unread post28 Sep 2018, 19:01

Bound to happen eventually.... Still a butt-ton safer than a Harrier.

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Unread post28 Sep 2018, 19:13

This is the first F-35 (from any variant) to actually crash, right? This since it flew for the first time since 2006.
So and while this shouldn't happen at all, there aren't many (if any) fighter aircraft programs that can claim to only have a single crash after 12 years of continuous flying.

I also hope that the pilot is OK.
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Unread post28 Sep 2018, 19:16

Good to see the pilot doing OK.

Yeah, stats say this was bound to happen sometime. Will be interesting to see play out in the media though.
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Unread post28 Sep 2018, 23:09

Reported video of the crash scene. Found on Twitter.

Not a lot to see: a plume of dark, gray smoke. Weather seems fine: mostly sunny, maybe call it broken clouds. Wind appears light.

Take an F-16, stir in A-7, add dollop of F-117 & gob of F-22, sprinkle with AV-8B, stir well, then bake. Whaddya get? An F-35.
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Unread post28 Sep 2018, 23:14

...cue the haters in 3..2..1... :bang:
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Unread post29 Sep 2018, 03:05

awsome wrote: Ok I'll bite... actually I don't really give a crap either way but I'm just imagining the comments by the F-16.net true believers if this had been the SU 57...


Big difference between a plane that has over 300 built and 150,000 total flight hours total, and a plane with only 10 prototypes built and a tiny fraction of those flight hours.
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Unread post29 Sep 2018, 03:15

awsome wrote:
dragracingmaniac wrote:...cue the haters in 3..2..1... :bang:



Ok I'll bite... actually I don't really give a crap either way but I'm just imagining the comments by the F-16.net true believers if this had been the SU 57...

If the Su-57 had over 300 examples flying, most of them now operational and for multiple users/countries, and been used in combat by two countries, AND had flown ~150k flight hours before the first in-flight loss, it would be pretty much the same.

But its the SU-57, so most would just chuckle knowingly.
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Unread post29 Sep 2018, 03:53

awsome wrote:
dragracingmaniac wrote:...cue the haters in 3..2..1... :bang:


Ok I'll bite...


Can you articulate precisely why you hate the F-35? Is it due to performance, lethality, safety or vulnerability issues?

Or is it just a personal ideological hang-up thing, which you never managed to shake or grow beyond, since your college days?
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Unread post29 Sep 2018, 04:00

All in all, it was the biggest week the F-35 has ever had, although this is an unfortunate event. Think about it, the first ever combat usage by the US, the first ever landing on the QE, and the first ever crash. Quite the busy week. It is really unfortunate that the crash put a damper on what was an impressive week, otherwise.
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Unread post29 Sep 2018, 04:09

You forgot GREAT LRIP 11 prices. "...[F-35A] $89.2 million per aircraft [which includes F135 engine], a 5.4 % reduction..."
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Unread post29 Sep 2018, 04:26

awsome wrote:
element1loop wrote:
awsome wrote:
Ok I'll bite...


Can you articulate precisely why you hate the F-35? Is it due to performance, lethality, safety or vulnerability issues?

Or is it just a personal ideological hang-up thing, which you never managed to shake or grow beyond, since your college days?



Speaking of college they seem to have never taught you to read beyond the first three words. Why does it matter to you what my opinion is of the F-35 or is it just the possibility that someone is questioning Americas exceptionalism?



So not due to performance, lethality, safety or vulnerability issues then.
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Unread post29 Sep 2018, 05:26

white_lightning35 wrote:All in all, it was the biggest week the F-35 has ever had, although this is an unfortunate event. Think about it, the first ever combat usage by the US, the first ever landing on the QE, and the first ever crash. Quite the busy week. It is really unfortunate that the crash put a damper on what was an impressive week, otherwise.


First thing I thought of as well, after all the good that happened this week then the crash happens. I mean still a insanely impressive run and safety record, but any person here knew it would would happen at some point, happy the pilot made it out ok. I guess a positive to take away from this is we now know the ejection seat for sure works and won't kill the pilot right away like the blogger mafia tried to claim a few years back.
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Unread post29 Sep 2018, 05:36

Glad the pilot punched out safely... Even happier he didn't do so over hostile territory.
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Unread post29 Sep 2018, 06:57

Can you articulate precisely why you hate the F-35? Is it due to performance, lethality, safety or vulnerability issues?

Or is it just a personal ideological hang-up thing, which you never managed to shake or grow beyond, since your college days?[/quote]


Speaking of college they seem to have never taught you to read beyond the first three words. Why does it matter to you what my opinion is of the F-35 or is it just the possibility that someone is questioning Americas exceptionalism?[/quote]

So awesome; just to summarize, you basicly don't like the F-35 because of Hoop Stress?
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