F-35A/C with 6 GBU-31's

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Unread post07 Jun 2018, 08:13

Does anybody have a source with a picture of a F-35A or C with six GBU-31's or another type 2,000 lbs class weapon??? (i.e. two internally and four externally)

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Any help would be much appreciated..... 8)
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Unread post07 Jun 2018, 09:27

I think what you are referring to is a screen capture from a presentation at a symposium

Dragon029's Youtube feed has the image.... shown at 1 min into the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSIzWFxznvM
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Unread post07 Jun 2018, 09:43

This is a good start point: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=53438&p=380703&hilit=discussion#p380703

And rather than DRAGGOON pic which has not been corrected for width from squashed screenshot - try mine.

download/file.php?id=25878

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Unread post07 Jun 2018, 09:55

Thanks....what I was really looking for was a picture of an F-35A/C. Which, was carrying six GBU-31's. Either with a bays open so we could confirm the aircraft was in fact carrying six GBU-31's or a picture from a credible source stating the aircraft was. While, carrying four externally. Yet, there maybe no such picture????
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Unread post07 Jun 2018, 10:17

Perhaps the thread about the F-35C carrier test ops with different lopsided ordnance may help? However at this moment I do not recall. You can look through LM FlickR F-35A/C photos also. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lockheedm ... 318767009/

Prolly the MAX allowed weight for an arrested landing ashore - you can work out what might be there (internal also):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lockheedm ... 318767009/

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1441/248 ... f5_o_d.jpg

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Unread post07 Jun 2018, 10:31

spazsinbad wrote:Perhaps the thread about the F-35C carrier test ops with different lopsided ordnance may help? However at this moment I do not recall. You can look through LM FlickR F-35A/C photos also.



Thanks the latter is a good idea.....(I'll try it)
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Unread post07 Jun 2018, 12:19

CODE ONE did strange juggling fings so this photo originally was with the page mentioned below but now it is here:

http://www.codeonemagazine.com/article.html?item_id=136

http://www.codeonemagazine.com/images/m ... 7_5170.jpg

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"13 January 2014: RAF Sdn. Ldr. Andy Edgell flew F-35C CF-1 for the first test mission of the F-35C with ten weapons and one gun pod. The flight, which originated from NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, was used to evaluate the handling qualities of the F-35C with a full weapon load. The load consisted of four 500-pound GBU-12 Paveway II bombs and two AIM-9X Sidewinder air-to-air missiles mounted under the wings and two GBU-32s and two AIM-120 AMRAAMs mounted in the internal weapon bays. A 25mm gun pod was mounted on the external centerline station as well. Photo by Andy Wolfe" http://www.codeonemagazine.com/article. ... f7045660=1

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"19 June 2014: Lockheed Martin test pilot Dan Levin was flying a stores performance test in F-35C CF-1 from NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, when the aircraft reached the 500-hour milestone on Flight 294. Photo by Michael D. Jackson" http://www.codeonemagazine.com/images/m ... 7_1095.jpg


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"10 January 2014: Lt. Col. Brent Reinhardt was at the controls of F-35A AF-1 Flight 350 for the first test mission flown with ten weapons. The flight, which originated from Edwards AFB, California, was used to evaluate the handling qualities of the F-35A. The weapon load consisted of six 500-pound GBU-12 Paveway II bombs (two mounted in the internal weapon bays and four mounted under the wings), two AIM-120 AMRAAMs mounted in the internal weapon bays, and two AIM-9X Sidewinder air-to-air missiles mounted under the wings. [ramadamadingdong weapon bay doors open] http://www.codeonemagazine.com/images/m ... 7_2218.jpg

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Unread post07 Jun 2018, 12:51

https://www.dvidshub.net/download/image/2818807 [GOTTA BE LOGGED IN TO SEE THE FULL PIC - zoom below]
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Unread post07 Jun 2018, 23:07

Corsair1963 wrote:Does anybody have a source with a picture of a F-35A or C with six GBU-31's or another type 2,000 lbs class weapon??? (i.e. two internally and four externally)

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Any help would be much appreciated..... 8)

Out of curiosity, do you doubt the official pics. There aren't going to be any pics with the weapons bay doors open, and external weapons.
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Unread post08 Jun 2018, 16:14

:oops: Too 'embarrassment' (look up effie comedian australia): COVER of NAN (Naval Aviation News Spring 2018) :doh:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainm ... 9d36b05519
"CF-2, an F-35C Lightning II, is piloted by Lockheed Martin test pilot Billie Flynn April 4 during an external GBU-31 and AIM-9x buffet and flutter test flight from NAS Patuxent River, Md. (Lockheed Martin photo by Dane Wiedmann)" http://navalaviationnews.navylive.dodli ... ng2018.pdf (9.2Mb)
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Unread post09 Jun 2018, 03:23

The PDF cover was always going to be low quality but 'I' thought it could be improved - but no. So now ARMED with details & searchin' old faithful there are many examples of this photo above: [FOO wuz here] PHOTO taken in 2018 FLT 592

https://www.strategypage.com/military_p ... 12156.aspx #foo [A .PNG file is a HIGH QUALITY FILE]

Then there is the much moar betta OVER THE SEA photo: http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 7-0040.JPG

DVIDS has the above two plus: https://www.dvidshub.net/download/image/4282831

Then FlickR has the photos (don't know how I missed them but LATE NIGHT / Early morning....

https://www.flickr.com/photos/usnavy/40491967995/

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/876/4049 ... ce_o_d.jpg (over sea example 3000x2400 same as posted)

Had forgotten about NAVY.MIL (I think they were offline for a bit - and usual USN slow to post):

http://www.navy.mil/gallery_search_resu ... page=1&r=4
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Unread post09 Jun 2018, 14:40

Great graphic illustration of the F-35's capabilities. How many times have you seen ANY strike fighter flying with SIX 2,000lb JDAM's, two sidewinders and two AMRAAM's? I don't think even the F-15E can pull that off??

And to think, a single engine bird is doing it too...
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Unread post09 Jun 2018, 15:32

The Mudhen it's the only other plane that can, assuming it has a JDAM bus on the wing pylon.
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Unread post09 Jun 2018, 23:48

Corsair1963 wrote:Thanks....what I was really looking for was a picture of an F-35A/C. Which, was carrying six GBU-31's. Either with a bays open so we could confirm the aircraft was in fact carrying six GBU-31's or a picture from a credible source stating the aircraft was. While, carrying four externally. Yet, there maybe no such picture????


mixelflick wrote:Great graphic illustration of the F-35's capabilities. How many times have you seen ANY strike fighter flying with SIX 2,000lb JDAM's, two sidewinders and two AMRAAM's? I don't think even the F-15E can pull that off??


I think I am missing something (or the actual math is not as straight forward as things would look). I have been lurking this site for a few months (and don't know the ins and outs like y'all do). . . . but if the F-35 is to carry 22,000 lb of ordinance, doesn't this necessitate carrying 4 x 2,000 lb + 2 x 5,000 lb weapons, two sidewinders, two AMRAAM's (and something on the center point). Adding up the max weight that each mounting station can carry yields about 22,000 lb.

Does the need to have credible sources stating carriage (or to see weapons bays open) mean that the 22,000 pounds stated for Beast Mode is viewed as not credible. Why is 6 x 2,000 lb JDAM's, two sidewinders and two AMRAAM's so impressive if 22,000 pounds is possible. I also see other references to an 18,000 lb ordinance limit as well as the 22,000 lb ordinance limit . . . .and am confused.

Not trying to challenge any statements--I am just pretty sure I am missing something.
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Unread post10 Jun 2018, 00:23

Its total load carry capability includes the now un-scheduled external fuel tank with weighs 4.5k to 5k lbs on the inner pylon.
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