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Unread post14 Sep 2019, 16:54

Once upon a time in the West ... mighty F-35s were denied to this arrogant Sultan ! ;)

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Unread post14 Sep 2019, 19:41

LoL, nice one guys :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

How about changing this thread's title to something like:
- The F-35/Turkey saga as seen by the Dire Straits :mrgreen:

By the way and keeping in the "Dire Straits" mood, here's something that Turkey is failing towards NATO:



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A 4th/4.5th gen fighter aircraft stands about as much chance against a F-35 as a guns-only Sabre has against a Viper.
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Unread post15 Sep 2019, 05:30

NOT DROWNING - but WAVING - HELP!
Exclusive: Turkey's Erdogan says to discuss with Trump buying U.S. Patriot missiles
14 Sep 2019 Samia Nakhoul, Orhan Coskun and Dominic Evans

"ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said he will discuss buying U.S. Patriot missiles with President Donald Trump this month, saying his personal bond with the U.S. leader could overcome a crisis caused by Ankara buying Russian air defense systems.

Turkey's purchase of the Russian S-400 missile system in July raised the prospect of U.S. sanctions, and the State Department has said an offer to sell Raytheon Co's Patriot missile defense system to Ankara has expired.

However Erdogan told Reuters he had discussed buying Patriots in a phone call with Trump two weeks ago and would follow up when they meet at the U.N. General Assembly, which opens next week.

"I said no matter what package of ... S-400s we get, we can buy from you a certain amount of Patriots," Erdogan told Reuters on Friday.

"But I said we have to see conditions that at least match up to the S-400s," Erdogan said, adding that he was referring to the possibility of joint production and favorable lending terms.

"He (Trump) said: 'Are you serious?' I said: 'Yes'," Erdogan said, adding that he told Trump they would discuss it in greater detail when they meet...."

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Unread post15 Sep 2019, 10:19

spazsinbad wrote:NOT DROWNING - but WAVING - HELP!
... Erdogan said, adding that he was referring to the possibility of joint production and favorable lending terms. "He (Trump) said: 'Are you serious?' ...."

Source: http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/exc ... ar-AAHgsxD


"... But Big-Don, I'm good for it! ..." He was cap-in-hand to Putin for another soft-loan for fighters two weeks back.

Turkish President Says Russian Fighter-Jet Purchase Under Consideration - August 30, 2019 18:18 GMT ... alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin. "Will it be the Su-35? The F-35? Or the Su-57?" Erdogan was quoted as saying on August 30. "We are exploring what measures we can take for our defense industry, for our defense," he said, adding that negotiations will include obtaining loans and involvement in the production of military equipment. ... https://www.rferl.org/a/turkish-preside ... 38506.html


The man's hopeless.
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Unread post23 Sep 2019, 12:47

He can have his Patriot's, but no F-35's. He's made his own bed on this issue, and now he's going to sleep in it...
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Unread post23 Sep 2019, 13:24

He is on Turkish National Television daily in the morning, the afternoon and the evening.

It is called mass hypnosis. => Control the undereducated crowd with large spreaches and big words.
And when he shut off the microphone? He starts filling his pockets.

Everybody that opens his/her mouth gets a free tricket to jail.
There are more people in jail then in schools.
And what do they teach in school?
Exact, how great their leader is.
Tell something else and your jail apointment is made.

Pretty much like that other fat rocket-clown from the North Korea.

If Turky did not need the money from toerism? It would become an exact North Korean mirror.
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Unread post23 Sep 2019, 15:01

vilters wrote:If Turky did not need the money from toerism? It would become an exact North Korean mirror.

Tourism is around 10% of Turkish GDP. Important but not vital.

Increased inflation and unemployment is a big factor is Erdogan loosing popularity.
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Unread post23 Sep 2019, 22:47

botsing wrote:
vilters wrote:If Turky did not need the money from toerism? It would become an exact North Korean mirror.

Tourism is around 10% of Turkish GDP. Important but not vital.

Increased inflation and unemployment is a big factor is Erdogan loosing popularity.



Correct, but they are in the same boat as Greece, and to some extend Spain and Italy also.

Everybody works (in the black market) but few are registered workers and pay taxes.

Most are working, just not officially.

Add a ton of immigrants and prostitution and corruption and you are there.
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Unread post10 Oct 2019, 07:16

https://amp-businessinsider-com.cdn.amp ... 5251%2524s

Trump reportedly offered to sell F-35 jets to Turkey in exchange for not attacking Kurdish forces in Syria

President Donald Trump reportedly advised Turkey not to invade northeastern Syria and offered to resume sales of the US's fifth-generation aircraft, the Lockheed Martin F-35.
Trump reportedly offered Erdogan "a really good package," in addition to other benefits and a presidential visit, a senior official said, according to a Washington Post report published Wednesday.
The purported offer marks a departure from the US's policy not to include Turkey in its flagship F-35 program starting in July.
The US granted F-35 contracts to several allies, including the UK and South Korea, but took Turkey off that list when it purchased Russia's advanced S-400 air defense systems
"When a fifth-generation fighter meets a fourth-generation fighter—the [latter] dies,”
CSAF Gen. Mark Welsh
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