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Unread post03 Mar 2012, 10:19

Why so coy about content? Storm in a teacup until otherwise proven I reckon as seen from words on the linked article above:

"The Department of Defense Inspector General’s March newsletter contains this nugget:

Joint Strike Fighter (F-35) Quality Assurance Assessment. The objective of this assessment is to assess the quality management system for the Joint Strike Fighter procured by DoD from Lockheed Martin Corporation. The assessments will be performed on-site at Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, BAE, and various sub-contractor facilities. Specifically, the assessment will focus on conformity to specified quality management system(s), contractual quality clauses, and internal quality processes and procedures.

Typically it’s been my experience that the IG won’t embark on projects willy-nilly. The latest annual Pentagon test and evaluation report noted high failure rates of some of the parts on the F-35B variant, although many of the fixes to the problems are redesigns, so the problems themselves may not be due to a lack of quality assurance. It’s possible this assessment is a move by the IG to the engage in preventative oversight of the $380 billion program to help keep it on track, rather than in reaction to something it has discovered...."
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Unread post05 Mar 2012, 17:10

"“The objective is to assess” the program’s quality management at Lockheed Martin’s Fort Worth, Texas, facility and those of subcontractors Northrop Grumman Corp. (NOC) and BAE Systems Plc (BA/), the inspector general said in a summary included in its March activities newsletter posted online.

“The assessment will focus on conformity to specified quality management systems, contractual quality clauses and internal processes and procedures,” according to the summary issued by Acting Inspector General Lynne Halbrooks."


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-0 ... ector.html
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Unread post30 Sep 2013, 19:30

Lockheed, Pentagon cite improved F-35 quality work since end 2012


"Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:09pm EDT
* Pentagon says 78 percent of issues raised already addressed

* "Scrap and rework" rate said to be coming down

* Inspector general cites nearly 900 quality issues on every jet built

By Andrea Shalal-Esa

WASHINGTON, Sept 30 (Reuters) - Lockheed Martin Corp has resolved many quality problems on the $392 billion F-35 fighter jet program since a troubling audit by the Pentagon inspector general's office last year, top U.S. government and industry officials said on Monday.

The officials were commenting on a report on the year-long in depth assessment by the inspector general, which was completed in December 2012, but not released until Monday.

The report said each radar-evading fighter jet built had over 800 quality issues on average, and faulted both the Pentagon's F-35 program office and the Defense Contracts Management Agency for "inadequate" and "ineffective" oversight of the Pentagon's costliest weapons program.

The report said the issues could lead to "nonconforming hardware, less reliable aircraft and increased cost," but said the F-35 program office was implementing corrective actions.

Additional assessments of the program were being planned, the report added."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/ ... 3R20130930
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Unread post30 Sep 2013, 20:27

There seems to be some confusion about how the IG operates. The actual product isn't inspected at all, they just audit paperwork. The so-called "quality" issues cited are related to documentation and nothing more.
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Unread post30 Sep 2013, 22:46

Never a truer word was said: http://snafu-solomon.blogspot.com.au/20 ... lanes.html
"...is insanity on steroids. {Not only is this airplane dragging the Marine Corps budget into an alley and raping it, but its gonna end up killing it too.

There is only one solution to the problems with this program... take off and nuke it from orbit. Its the only way to be sure...."} ...."

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Unread post30 Sep 2013, 23:47

spazsinbad wrote:Why so coy about content? Storm in a teacup until otherwise proven I reckon as seen from words on the linked article above:

"The Department of Defense Inspector General’s March newsletter contains this nugget:

Joint Strike Fighter (F-35) Quality Assurance Assessment. The objective of this assessment is to assess the quality management system for the Joint Strike Fighter procured by DoD from Lockheed Martin Corporation. The assessments will be performed on-site at Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, BAE, and various sub-contractor facilities. Specifically, the assessment will focus on conformity to specified quality management system(s), contractual quality clauses, and internal quality processes and procedures.

Typically it’s been my experience that the IG won’t embark on projects willy-nilly. The latest annual Pentagon test and evaluation report noted high failure rates of some of the parts on the F-35B variant, although many of the fixes to the problems are redesigns, so the problems themselves may not be due to a lack of quality assurance. It’s possible this assessment is a move by the IG to the engage in preventative oversight of the $380 billion program to help keep it on track, rather than in reaction to something it has discovered...."


It's been my experience that little Nicky Shwellenbach has no experience worthy of prefacing with "in my experience". Here's an easy prediction based on real experience:
Given the scope of the program and number of subcontractors involved, and given the timeline, expect several hundred Corrective Action Requests to have been generated. Expect the majority to have already been closed, perhaps half before the inspectors left the building. Expect most of them to have been at 2nd or 3rd tier suppliers, and expect them all to be closed in less than a year.

Now expect guys like little Nicky, who probably had this item handed to him by his fellow travelers still at POGO, to try to cause a todo over pretty mundane data. At least it will be mundane to anyone who has dealt with these kind of reviews in the past. It's all about making a higher quality product: something no one in the industry will ever argue against.

I've got an idea! A 'Quality' award for Defense Journalism! I volunteer to keep it in my attic, since I doubt we would ever have a winner.

OOPS. I'm on my phone (d*** autocorrect) and today's posts hadn't updated. Should read the dates in the comments. I hate wasting righteous indignation on old transgressions.
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Unread post01 Oct 2013, 10:35

maus92 wrote:The officials were commenting on a report on the year-long in depth assessment by the inspector general, which was completed in December 2012, but not released until Monday.


A telling element! A lot has happened since Dec 2012...

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