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squirl wrote:If the Cobra compromises speed and initiative then so does turning. Dogfights aren't all about energy, otherwise winners would be decided based upon who could fly at their maximum L/D (no more than a few G's).
If somebody's on your 6, in an oversimplified case, a tight 360-degree turn might put you on their tail, but it also means your wings have to generate more than 6 times your bird's momentum in impulse (assuming constant velocity). Yes, impulse. Wings don't do any useful work in a turn (no energy), but they change a jet's momentum. And it may take several turns to get where you need to be.
A Cobra could accomplish this with less than a sixth of the impulse of a 360-degree turn.
And yes, there are the helmet-mounted sights and HOBS missiles that nullify a lot of the dogfight tactics, but all else being equal, there is a place for the Cobra in combat. No pilot would be wise to use it at every opportunity, but that's true for any maneuver.
Gums wrote:Lemme see.......
...I'll take the Viper any day for sustained turn rate plus energy retention, and we've had a great thread about this before....
Gums wrote:Mav did this in "Top Gun", and it worked once. Only once.
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