MQ-25 US Navy Stingray Program

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Unread post20 Dec 2017, 03:25

Flying wing with pelican tail?
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Unread post20 Dec 2017, 04:13

madrat wrote:Flying wing with pelican tail?


....and I'm curious about the utilization of carbon nanotube reinforced polymer (CNRP) materials in both structure and panels as "strength/ weight savings" as this goes to manufacturing. Now that the JSF program has proven the benefits and the manufacturing technologies, does this give LM an edge in the "future" ISR mission related vehicles?
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Unread post23 Dec 2017, 22:53

http://www.executivegov.com/2017/08/nav ... c2-system/

Navy Reports Progress on MQ-25A Unmanned Tanker C2 System

Ramona Adams
August 15, 2017

.. said integrating the Unmanned Carrier Aviation (UCA) Mission Control System into the Navy’s communications infrastructure will be a key step for MQ-25A operations.

The Navy aims to deploy MQ-25A drones on the Dwight D. Eisenhower CVN-69 and George H.W. Bush CVN-77 aircraft carriers as soon as 2019, with a goal to eventually operate the unmanned tankers aboard Nimitz– and Ford-class ships.
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The UMCS mission control system is based on current Navy technologies such as the Common Display System, Common Processing System and Common Control System, according to Duarte. Common UCMS functions are powered by CCS software architecture but program officials look to procure third-party software to support vehicle-specific operations, the report noted.
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Unread post24 Dec 2017, 00:58

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Unread post04 Jan 2018, 03:47

"When a fifth-generation fighter meets a fourth-generation fighter—the [latter] dies,”
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Unread post04 Jan 2018, 04:36



....more of the Boreing "peek-aboo" picts., thanks anyhow!
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Unread post04 Jan 2018, 07:39

Looks like Tacit Blue.
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Unread post04 Jan 2018, 19:11

If this thing is indeed LO/VLO, I think it is something the USAF should be taking a hard look at. They may balk at only 15,000 lbs of offload, but if this thing could be scaled up to the 25-50k range I think it could offer some real utility in escorting flights of F-35's or F-22's to deep targets to dangerous for the KC-46.

The obvious problem though is the boom vs. drouge...
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Unread post04 Jan 2018, 22:26



Apparently Tyler Rogoway has been cribbing from Secret Projects. Look at the pics posted there, and those he's posted at the link above.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/ ... 6.855.html

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Unread post04 Jan 2018, 22:43

Seems to have a lot in common with the YF-23.
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Unread post05 Jan 2018, 00:39

count_to_10 wrote:Seems to have a lot in common with the YF-23.


In that they're both a shade of gray?
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Unread post05 Jan 2018, 04:09

sferrin wrote:
count_to_10 wrote:Seems to have a lot in common with the YF-23.


In that they're both a shade of gray?

No, the nose is very similar, as are the all moving v tails and a lot of the lines. The wings are a lot thinner, but it’s hard to tell what they look like.
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Unread post05 Jan 2018, 04:10

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... pr-444627/

FAA approves registration number for Boeing MQ-25 prototype

04 January, 2018
BY: Stephen Trimble

Washington DC
Boeing has received a US aircraft registration for the newly-unveiled demonstrator at the heart of its bid to make up to 72 MQ-25 Stingray carrier-based unmanned tankers for the US Navy, the company confirms to FlightGlobal. The Federal Aviation Administration assigned registration number, N234MQ, to Boeing for a St. Louis-aircraft model dubbed the “T1” on 26 December. The registration omits several typical details, including the model of the turbofan engine that powers the aircraft. Boeing is one of three bidders for a development contract scheduled to be awarded later this year. The deadline to submit bids for the three teams – Boeing, General Atomics Aeronautical Systems and Lockheed Martin – passed on 3 January. The bid deadline came as Boeing decided to reveal more details about its approach to the MQ-25 design. A photo tweeted by Boeing on 19 December offered a nose-on glimpse of the design, revealing extremely canted stabilizers and a conventional wing. The inlet in the 19 December appeared to be obscured.

However, a follow-video posted on 3 January by Boeing confirmed that the inlet in the nose is actually an auxiliary intake or perhaps a cooling vent. The real inlet for the turbofan engine is instead mounted dorsally and flush with the fuselage. It’s a rare configuration choice that evokes memories of Northrop’s Tacit Blue stealth demonstrator in the early 1980s. The video also revealed other intriguing details about Boeing’s MQ-25 design, including a retractable tail hook under the fuselage. But other details, including the full length of the wings and stabilizers – are still not shown. General Atomics previously has released a generic concept revealing a design that mixes elements of the fuselage and wing of the MQ-9 Reaper with the propulsion and empennage of the Predator C Avenger. Lockheed Martin has released only a fragment of its MQ-25 concept aircraft, showing only part of the underside of a wing and a refueling pod.
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Unread post05 Jan 2018, 07:10

I wonder if that inlet might be a variation of the NACA flush inlet duct.

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Unread post05 Jan 2018, 08:37

johnwill wrote:I wonder if that inlet might be a variation of the NACA flush inlet duct.

vdsvrvre.jpg


....I think it qualifies with the low/ no projection but I'm concerned about the slow airspeed approach for the trap and the quick engine speed variations (air flows) that are required for the approach. Delta Glide Path programming and boat data feed from JPALS seemed to mitigate any approach concerns for the X-47B but this new Boeing air inlet design is causing me concern, thus I'm not on the team!
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