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Unread post15 Jun 2013, 18:36

I've seen it here before. Can anyone help?
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Unread post15 Jun 2013, 20:38

I typed this string 'APEX F-35 Ammunition PDF' into Google to get a few hits. Leave out F-35 and more hits...

Nammo aircraft ammunition solutions 31 May 2010

http://www.nammo.com/upload/PDF/Bulletin_2010.pdf (1.6Mb) Only the relevant single page attached.
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Only first page attached - rest is about software as indicated below:
"To study the motion and strength of the design of fuze mechanisms to identify potential design issues and assist with analysis of trials results"
"...The Nammo 25mm APEX projectile is a next generation armour-piercing, high-explosive ammunition designed for use with the US F-35 Joint Strike Fighter aircraft. The projectile leaves the muzzle of the 4-barrelled GAU-12 weapon system with a velocity of around 1,000m/s and experiences a peak setback acceleration of almost 80,000g. Under these conditions, coupled with severe space restrictions, it is almost impossible to instrument the fuze in order to gain an understanding of the operation and interaction of components inside. Therefore, while physical testing can be used to confirm functionality of the fuze, it often offers only limited information for post analysis in the event of a failure to function...."

http://www.mscsoftware.com/sites/defaul ... _ltr_w.pdf (0.4Mb)
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Thales Australia and Nammo announce strategic agreement 22 Jun 2011
"...Thales Australia and Nammo have signed a long-term strategic teaming agreement to cooperate in the ordnance market.

The 10-year agreement expands on many years of cooperation between the two companies, and builds on a 2010 commitment to work together on ammunition for the F-35 fighter program, in particular on the Armor Piercing EXplosive (APEX) Norwegian ammunition concept. The agreement also covers Nammo’s special Reduced Ricochet Risk training round, plus Thales’s Armour Piercing Fragmenting & Incendiary (APFI) ammunition round. Under the increased scope of the new agreement, Nammo and Thales will work together in Research & Development, technology transfer, and component supply from Nammo, and further collaborate within the market place.

Chris Jenkins, Thales Australia’s CEO, said: “This cooperation will increase the range of domestic capability we are able to deliver to the Australian Department of Defence, and will boost our export potential by leveraging our world-class propropellant technology and Nammo’s specialist ammunition design and manufacturing heritage.”..."

http://www.australian-munitions.com.au/ ... eement.pdf (30Kb)
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And just because I found it (again - probably already in the DOCS folder here)....

F-35 Lightning II Missionized Gun System Status 24 May 2010 Douglas Parker, Design/Test Engineer –Joint Strike Fighter Gun System

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2010armament/T ... Parker.pdf (2.3Mb)
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Unread post15 Jun 2013, 20:53

And here I thought they were just going to use armor-piercing incendiary ammo: a DU or tungsten-carbide core surrounded by an impact triggered bursting charge and an incendiary, all wrapped up in a metal jacket.
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Unread post15 Jun 2013, 21:17

Searching this FORUM for 'APEX' will reveal a number of hits.... LOOK for the 'SWP' entries:

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... pex#236580
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http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-20599.html SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS THREAD PAGE TO SEE A DIAGRAM...

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2012armaments/ ... 7friis.pdf (2.3Mb) (which URL needs to be amended now that the DTIC system has changed....

Anyhoo I'm getting bored so this PDF is now attached. :D It is all about APEX.... see graphic below.
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Unread post15 Jun 2013, 23:58

That was the one.:D

spazsinbad wrote:http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2012armaments/ ... 7friis.pdf (2.3Mb) (which URL needs to be amended now that the DTIC system has changed....

Here is another link just in case.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.ph ... 73749&da=y
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Unread post16 Jun 2013, 01:19

On the subject of ammo, what ever became of the frangible round for application on aircraft cannon?
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Unread post16 Jun 2013, 01:20

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Unread post16 Jun 2013, 01:41

Search for 'FAP' and whatever was found in the past on this forum will be revealed? Search the interbabble for FAP and you will be surprised.

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... fap#235522
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Unread post16 Jun 2013, 01:53

Einstein got it backward: one cannot prevent a war without preparing for it.

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Unread post16 Jun 2013, 03:46

Same info as the second URL above here - as indicated earlier - scroll down: http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... fap#235522
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Unread post16 Jun 2013, 11:08

popcorn wrote:On the subject of ammo, what ever became of the frangible round for application on aircraft cannon?


http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2009gunmissile ... voorde.pdf
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Unread post16 Jun 2013, 14:52

May as well add that PDF here from: http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2009gunmissile ... voorde.pdf
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Unread post20 Jun 2013, 03:50

DR. J. MICHAEL GILMORE, DIRECTOR, OPERATIONAL TEST AND EVALUATION, OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE; BEFORE THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE ON DEFENSE 19 Jun 2013
"...Gun Ammunition Lethality. The U.S. Air Force is leading an evaluation of a new frangible armor piercing design for the F-35A ammunition; the Navy is evaluating existing PGU-32 semi-armor piercing high explosive incendiary ammunition for the F-35B and F-35C; and the Norwegian Ministry of Defense is evaluating a new armor piercing explosive ammunition for its F-35A variant and possibly the U.S. F-35B and F-35C variants. Terminal ballistic tests of all ammunition variants against common vehicle armor and masonry wall designs will start in FY13 and continue in FY14. All test data will feed Joint Munitions Effectiveness Models...."

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Unread post21 Jun 2013, 18:31

Realistically, what are the chances of an F-35 actually being used to strafe armored vehicles?
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