Proposals to counter Spam Bots on F16net

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madrat

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Unread post31 Dec 2012, 00:14

Yes, nice work fellas. And I always appreciate the nice personal TYs from the mods for tagging the spam.
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Unread post06 Jan 2013, 17:59

I'm not a computer guru but I was just wondering if there is any way to block the entire server that these loser spammers are using. Some of these other ideas listed are also good. Maybe it is getting to be time to have any future posters to do a verificaiton process to include a valid credit card. I'm just getting frustrated seeing this spam crap show up....
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Unread post08 Jan 2013, 04:57

^^ ... Or block any new member with letters 'tv' in their ID?? cough.
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Unread post09 Jan 2013, 04:32

Is there a way to limit the number of threads someone starts for a given amount of time? Like you can only start 1 thread per day or something? Maybe that would slow them down a bit so one guy can't start 6-9 new threads at once.
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Unread post09 Jan 2013, 07:43

That is already the case. We limit posts. We think thats reasonable.

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Unread post09 Jan 2013, 14:30

What about doing a waiting period for any new members with a new post, say like 48 hours. That way it would give a chance for the webmasters to screen them before they even hit the forum. This would only be for new members only. Not sure how easy this would be to do but that was an idea from one of my friends at work.
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Unread post10 Jan 2013, 06:31

Bjorn wrote:That is already the case. We limit posts. We think thats reasonable.

While I agree that is reasonble when the forum isn't being invaded, the spammers are currently maxing out the allowable threads per day for each username they get. Might be prudent to limit posters to starting only 1 or 2 threads per day during this time of war. Just a thought!
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Unread post26 Apr 2016, 11:04

The spamming here is getting pretty bad, and mostly it's the same users starting multiple threads. Just some ideas:

  • Perhaps you could limit the amount of threads allowed to be created per user (at least per subforum).
  • As they are posting on the first subforum you could also add a spamcatch subforum where noone is actually able to post (despite having the link)
  • On user registration page, having a checkbox that is checked by default and needs to be unchecked for a valid user confuses a lot of spambots pretty well (they select boxes but do not tend to uncheck them).
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Unread post26 Apr 2016, 14:00

gideonic wrote:The spamming here is getting pretty bad, and mostly it's the same users starting multiple threads. Just some ideas:

  • Perhaps you could limit the amount of threads allowed to be created per user (at least per subforum).
  • As they are posting on the first subforum you could also add a spamcatch subforum where noone is actually able to post (despite having the link)
  • On user registration page, having a checkbox that is checked by default and needs to be unchecked for a valid user confuses a lot of spambots pretty well (they select boxes but do not tend to uncheck them).


I think if you can somehow block new users from privileges of starting new threads until they make at least two posts in existing threads over a period greater than 24 hours it would eliminate the problem fairly quickly. It would require users to make a meaningful effort to contribute something to the community discussion. Maybe you can start a technical support permanent thread where the maintainers who just need to ask a one off question can do so without having to start a new thread.
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Unread post26 Apr 2016, 16:14

How about:
- Limit new users to 1 post per day
- They can post only in the New User Forum
- They must have made at least 10 posts before any "New User" status can be lifted (Restricted via post count, not time)
- If "New User" status is lifted, they can post in all the regular forums
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Unread post26 Apr 2016, 18:01

Dispatch some Raptors:)
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Unread post26 Apr 2016, 19:03

One idea is to restrict new users from posting with links, other than a white-list of websites. Most legitimate threads seem to be started with quotes from a relatively small number of websites. (e.g flightglobal.com)
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Unread post27 Apr 2016, 09:39

neurotech wrote:One idea is to restrict new users from posting with links, other than a white-list of websites. Most legitimate threads seem to be started with quotes from a relatively small number of websites. (e.g flightglobal.com)

IMO the problem is mostly the absurd amount of new threads, not the posts per-se. Certainly the amount of threads a new user is allowed to post should be limited. As well as maybe user registration. Or as suggested, only allowing to post if the user has made at least one post in a certain maintenance thread. But it's getting pretty bad here by the day :(
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Unread post27 Apr 2016, 10:52

As had been suggested, restrict new members from posting links until their 10th post.
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Unread post27 Apr 2016, 11:25

I used to frequent a top gaming message board called Neogaf. There is a lot of good discussion, and a lot of high level industry guys post there. The secret has been:

1. You must use a paid email service in order to join.

2. After you join you become a Jr member ( basically probation) with very limited privileges. even minor infractions during the JR phase will get you a IP ban they are very strict.

3. there is a zero tolerance policy for some behaviors even after the Jr phase.

This has resulted in a very high quality discussion, with even some executives chiming in. the board has become very influential. Even Presidents of gaming companies and the press have been banned. I think tightening up on registration might do wonders.
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