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sketch22 wrote:How an airplane looks has little to do with it's RCS...
Uhhh... how an airplane looks has everything to do with its RCS. RAM can only do so much..
cywolf32 wrote:Roscoe wrote:Based on what?mcraptor wrote:The raw figures are certanly better for the YF-23.Yet you follow that with...count_to_10 wrote:That documentary is most of the information I have on the subject, too.My understanding is that the YF-23 had better high-speed characteristics and a smaller RCS, but was less efficiently laid out (more empty space) and had more risky (from a developmental perspective) weapon bays and exhaust system.
I've read a ton of speculation about how much better/cheaper/faster/whatever the YF-23 was over the YF-22 but the bottom line is no one here knows or they would know better to discuss it. This is all pure speculation based on no data.
How an airplane looks has little to do with it's RCS...
according to Northrop vet, this patent has nothing to do with F-23A (as many including yours truly thought for a while)
FlightDreamz wrote:Would love to see confirmation on that (if possible - would love to see more info/data on a lot of aspects of the YF-23).
And your technical background in this area is what exactly? I can't comment in any official capacity but I will say that LO is all about what's under the skin, not the external appearance.
battleshipagincourt wrote:Well based on the rumors and unreliable sources I've read, the F-22 really won on three attributes... cost, low-speed agility, and a CATOBAR variant.
True that the YF-23 may have had a better RCS overall, it relied much more on RAM than the F-22, making it much more costly to maintain. That WAS one of the major things they wanted from the ATF program was an easier aircraft to maintain than the F-117.
Another thing that the F-22 had going for it was its agility at low speeds. Due to possessing thrust vectoring, the F-22 could maintain control in situations where the YF-23 couldn't. The YF-23 did certainly have more extensive control surfaces than the latter, those attributes were best suited for high speeds and altitudes.
The USAF and Navy also wanted to share the same fighter, and the F-22 was considered a much better candidate for being converted into a naval aircraft. Had this alone not been taken into consideration, the YF-23 probably would have won in spite of the two drawbacks I listed above. They were very seriously considering the F-22 for replacing the F-14, so it stands to reason the Navy's demands had to be met while this competition was going on.
discofishing wrote: I can only see more empty space as less internal fuel.
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