Raptor scraped up at Tyndall

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Unread post15 Jun 2012, 22:54

While at Tucson, saw lotsa coupes and family models do low-approaches (execute a go-around at ~ 10' - 15' AGL) rather than actual T&G's. How are LA's scored in relation to landing currency? Does each pass count as a "landing" even tho ya don't touch? :shrug:
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Unread post16 Jun 2012, 01:25

When I instructed at TUS, all T&G's were done at Tucson IAP with the exception of an occasional approach at DM, trying not to run over A-10's.

When I went thru the 16 course in the 80's, T&G's were done at Fort Huachuca, with a planned full-stop only back at TUS (but at least they still did allow overheads at TUS).

I'm not sure why they would be doing low approaches at TUS unless a particular instrument approach wasn't available at the Army field. You got me, I thought Fort Huachuca had everything needed for training.

Low approaches don't count as landings for currency. Conversely a bounce does not count as 2 landings.

I also think DOD provided a lot of money to 'P' fields for upkeep. Maybe the Guard struck an agreement with the city and airport authority to minimize wear & tear on the runway surface for 'less rent'. :D

Any more news on the F-22?
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Unread post08 Jul 2012, 08:20

Any more news on the F-22, it can be repaired or not?
what's the tail code?
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Unread post18 Nov 2012, 02:40

I think this was the belly landed one whose accident report was released this week.
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Unread post18 Nov 2012, 02:40

I think this was the belly landed one whose accident report was released this week.
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Unread post18 Nov 2012, 02:55

Lightndattic wrote:I think this was the belly landed one whose accident report was released this week.

Did they release the actual report? The USAF statements suggest they haven't and that a FOIA request is pending.
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Unread post18 Nov 2012, 20:45

neurotech wrote:
Lightndattic wrote:I think this was the belly landed one whose accident report was released this week.

Did they release the actual report? The USAF statements suggest they haven't and that a FOIA request is pending.


Its in the other crash thread.
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Unread post18 Nov 2012, 20:46

neurotech wrote:
Lightndattic wrote:I think this was the belly landed one whose accident report was released this week.

Did they release the actual report? The USAF statements suggest they haven't and that a FOIA request is pending.


Its in the other crash thread.
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Unread post18 Nov 2012, 22:50

Lightndattic wrote:
neurotech wrote:
Lightndattic wrote:I think this was the belly landed one whose accident report was released this week.

Did they release the actual report? The USAF statements suggest they haven't and that a FOIA request is pending.


Its in the other crash thread.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2012/ ... ort-111512
They released a statement regarding the mishap. I didn't see the actual AIB report, and the Air Force Times reports a FOIA request is pending.
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Unread post19 Nov 2012, 17:53

You're right, it was just a press statement, but it's still pretty definitive.

http://www.airforce-magazine.com/SiteCo ... elease.pdf
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Unread post06 Dec 2012, 10:26

Anyone know if the pilot was a new b-courser or if he was an IP? I figure a mistake like this would come from a dude with only a few hours in the jet, but you never know. This seemingly minor mistake cost the AF $35 million and most likely the pilot's wings, what with the modern "one mistake air force" of today and all.
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Unread post06 Dec 2012, 14:47

[quote="sketch22"]Anyone know if the pilot was a new b-courser or if he was an IP? I figure a mistake like this would come from a dude with only a few hours in the jet, but you never know. This seemingly minor mistake cost the AF $35 million and most likely the pilotThe pilot was a LtCol transitioning to the F-22 from, I believe, vipers. He was back in the cockpit not long after the mishap, although I don't know what his current status is.
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Unread post09 Aug 2013, 19:46

I have a copy of the report, and I believe its now public. The pilot was coming from F-15s and had spent over a year out of the cockpit prior to reporting to F-22 transition training, and this was his 3rd flight in the F-22.

No idea what his flight status is, but apparently the pilot is actually in the AK ANG, not the USAF. I've heard about some WTF mishaps by senior pilots that have kept their wings and returned to active flight status, yet others are assigned permanent desk duty.
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Unread post09 Aug 2013, 23:00

neurotech wrote:I have a copy of the report, and I believe its now public. The pilot was coming from F-15s and had spent over a year out of the cockpit prior to reporting to F-22 transition training, and this was his 3rd flight in the F-22.

No idea what his flight status is, but apparently the pilot is actually in the AK ANG, not the USAF. I've heard about some WTF mishaps by senior pilots that have kept their wings and returned to active flight status, yet others are assigned permanent desk duty.


http://usaf.aib.law.af.mil/ExecSum2012/ ... y%2012.pdf
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Unread post10 Aug 2013, 21:54

History repeats itself.

This is exactly what happened to a Tucson Guard F-16B doing T&Gs at Fort Huachuca in the '90s.......with an IP in the backseat. :shock:

Do they still do training T&Gs in the single seat only super-jet?
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