Romney wants to buy more F-22s

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Unread post25 Oct 2012, 05:39

It's a significantly lighter load than B-1 or B-2. It's closer to NGB/LRSB but still somewhat less, and without its range or its more purely stealth-based overall design or its freedom to be based from the ground up on more modern materials and production methods. And NGB/LRSB is already in the works and doesn't carry the Raptor's political burden. Since the production system for the original Raptors is gone, and none of their flight test data would be valid after such heavy modifications so a whole new round of testing would be needed anyway, the modified Raptor concept isn't any steps farther along than NGB/LRSB. So it would be less capable and not bring any particular advantages for the role our next plane will need to play, having not been designed for that role from the start like its alternative is. There's no positive for it but getting to use the name "Raptor" and/or the letter "F" and number "22". It's like insisting on making a sword-shaped object out of titanium because titanium, despite being physically inferior to steel for making swords out of, has the huge advantage of being named "titanium".

Anyway, this isn't the only case of Romney proposing huge military programs for no apparent purpose but tossing money away. His suggested rate of warship production is also silly. He's fixated on "more and bigger must always be better" instead of really thinking about what's most practical.
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Unread post25 Oct 2012, 06:09

delvo wrote:Anyway, this isn't the only case of Romney proposing huge military programs for no apparent purpose but tossing money away. His suggested rate of warship production is also silly. He's fixated on "more and bigger must always be better" instead of really thinking about what's most practical.

It's difficult to tell exactly what Romney's handlers have in mind for a production restart, or if they're even serious about it. However, compared to the scale of the JSF or LRSB projects, reopening the line to build enough F-22s that we might finally replace the F-15C/D would be small potatoes.
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Unread post26 Oct 2012, 18:03

Screw the politics!! It will all be over in a few weeks!! We need to think about how wars will be fought in the future. Times have changed. Tactics and weapons systems must change with it. We will fail at maintaining our position as THE most formidable military, if we continue this train of thought. More does not necessarily equate to better. With the technology we have we are doing MORE with less. Our enemies will not be filling the sky's with hundreds of air superiority fighters ready to defeat our 188 strong front-line 22's backed by MORE than capable f-15's (which still has not been defeated in combat) and f-16, and f-18's. With the 35 coming on line soon we will have the ability to strike our enemy precisely where it hurts, effectively disabling his ability to wage war. In addition the training that our combat pilots receive can not be compared to any other nation. Even with 5th generation fighters coming online from other countries they will still be years behind our technology simply because we are the leaders in stealth technology. We do not need more raptors simply because they cannot win the wars of the future on their own. A combined force capability is what we need. I do not see the USAF losing 188 raptors to some unknown enemy force therefore requiring re-opening f-22 production. Besides the abilities of the f-22 ensures that they have an unfair advantage even when outnumbered. That's how they train so that's how they will fight. Remember nations have been hard pressed to combat the effectiveness of the F-15 at it's peak and we all know the stellar record that jet has! So NO!! save the money invest it in the next new technology, staying ahead of everyone else is the key. While others are thinking about combating the f-22, we well be working on the next thing for them to worry about.
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