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Scorpion1alpha wrote:I fail to see those links supporting what you said about EA-18 getting F-22 WVR kills.
If you meant other fighters, not the EA-18 in your second sentence, then you weren't clear on that.
My comment with regard to getting in close, referred to a F/A-18F or Growler-lite (without the heavy AN/ALQ-99s) being able to use its low speed turning ability to take advantage of an overshoot by a F-22 going faster in a turn.
Scorpion1alpha wrote:Also, I do know F-22s have been killed WVR in exercises before. Newsworthy because it very rarely happens. Analysis has almost always shown it was "pilot error". The jet was fine, but if the pilot doesn't do something right, it's not the jet's fault.
There is no surefire F-22 killing technique / tactic. Anybody who has fought it will tell you that.
Nope there isn't any surefire tactic. The F-22 pilot has to make a mistake to allow it to happen. Overshooting during a dogfight would be a pilot mistake. The whole premise of the F-22 is being able to choose exactly how to enter a fight. In a 'realistic' scenario, a F-22 would stay BVR and fire the missile without ever being seen/detected. Once the F-22 goes into the merge, and both jets are visual, then pilot skill plays a role, and if the pilot screws up, the other jet could get off the shot.
Edit: The theory is that a AN/ALQ-218 could detect a F-22, although no confirmation of this actually occurring during an exercise.