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Unread post10 Feb 2012, 16:49

How many f-35's are currently planned to be bought by current and future countries?
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 08:49

It's hard to tell for future countries, they need to be founded first :-)
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 10:18

Some are interested in:
- Singapore (associated partner): 100?
- S. Korea (decision oct.): 60

- Finland
- Greece (doubt possible for the Greece at the moment)


* Spain? Hardly no other possibility than the F35B, or stick to the Harrier
* Belgium? Although their min. Defence favours the F35, another jet type is not on the political agenda
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 14:12

It was the language, M. Those countries are not future countries, but countries with a possible future interest. A "future" country is a country that does not exist yet...
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 14:48

joost wrote:It was the language, M. Those countries are not future countries, but countries with a possible future interest. A "future" country is a country that does not exist yet...



And under these circumstances,there won't be any future for this ill-fated program.Its time the partners leave the program and buy something else .

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/U-S-F-35- ... 3.html?x=0
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 15:49

duplex wrote:
And under these circumstances,there won't be any future for this ill-fated program.Its time the partners leave the program and buy something else .



- then they will all buy the totally obsolete Rafale yes

Suggest you keep dreaming...........
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 16:16

joost wrote:It was the language, M. Those countries are not future countries, but countries with a possible future interest. A "future" country is a country that does not exist yet...


Yep! Cool :lol: :lol:
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 16:23

duplex wrote:
joost wrote:It was the language, M. Those countries are not future countries, but countries with a possible future interest. A "future" country is a country that does not exist yet...



And under these circumstances,there won't be any future for this ill-fated program.Its time the partners leave the program and buy something else .

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/U-S-F-35- ... 3.html?x=0


One who survives hard times, becomes a stronger man as well :wink:
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 16:28

I still like the idea of a split fleet for the RCAF consisting of F-35's and Super Hornets. They would complement each other well.
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 16:41

The U.S. plane to buy 2,443 units with about 1,763 F-35A for the air force, 340 F-35B and 80 F-35C for the marines, and 260 F-35C for the navy. Lets see if everyone gets what they want.

For comparison how many F-16's was the U.S. planning to buy from the start?
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 17:19

duplex wrote:And under these circumstances,there won't be any future for this ill-fated program.Its time the partners leave the program and buy something else .

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/U-S-F-35- ... 3.html?x=0


You seem to be the perfect victim to make a bet with, I like certain wins 8)

Yeah right, in your world, under these circumstances, the partners will all think: let's buy this 54 months late overpriced fighter instead of the JSF! Or this overpriced fighter which no one wants to buy! Keep on dreaming.
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 18:45

g3143 wrote:The U.S. plane to buy 2,443 units with about 1,763 F-35A for the air force, 340 F-35B and 80 F-35C for the marines, and 260 F-35C for the navy. Lets see if everyone gets what they want.

For comparison how many F-16's was the U.S. planning to buy from the start?


Those are pretty definitive numbers for the F-35B and -C. Where did you get them?
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 19:39

maus92 wrote:
g3143 wrote:The U.S. plane to buy 2,443 units with about 1,763 F-35A for the air force, 340 F-35B and 80 F-35C for the marines, and 260 F-35C for the navy. Lets see if everyone gets what they want.

For comparison how many F-16's was the U.S. planning to buy from the start?


Those are pretty definitive numbers for the F-35B and -C. Where did you get them?


I got it from:
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=63158
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Unread post11 Feb 2012, 20:29

g3143 wrote:The U.S. plane to buy 2,443 units with about 1,763 F-35A for the air force, 340 F-35B and 80 F-35C for the marines, and 260 F-35C for the navy. Lets see if everyone gets what they want.

For comparison how many F-16's was the U.S. planning to buy from the start?


From this very site

Early 1975, the USAF announced it would buy 650 F-16 multi-role fighters. The timing of this announcement was not coincidental, as the four European nations that were considering the F-16 as a replacement for their F-104 Starfighters wanted a firm commitment from the USAF before making their decision. At the same time, the USAF announced that the order could be extended to include as many as 1,400 F-16s.

In August 1975, General Dynamics' Fort Worth plant began producing the F-16, after a major overhaul of the plants production facilities. The production F-16A differed from the YF-16 in having a 13-inch fuselage extension to accommodate more fuel and the Westinghouse APG-66 radar. The wing area was increased by 20 square feet, and the horizontal stabilizer was also enlarged. An additional underwing hardpoint was fitted, bringing the total number of hardpoints to 9.

In 1977, the US Air Force announced it would buy an additional 783 F-16A/B's, which were going to enter service as fighter-bombers. The large orders (and subsequent orders) were spread over consecutive years, and F-16s have been ordered and delivered to the USAF in virtually every fiscal year. In total, 2,230 production F-16s have been ordered by the US Air Force. USAF orders (especially the early orders) were not for specific blocks of F-16s - when General Dynamics started producing a new block, they started delivering it to USAF. In the late 90s, the USAF placed a production extension order. The sole purpose of this order was to keep the Fort Worth production line open. At that time, the line was scheduled to close in 1999.
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