Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 04 Jul 2018, 05:26
by steve2267
A thread for screensaver worthy images of F-35 Lightnings.

Here's a RAAF parked @ Luke AFB at Sunset:

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Image found on this twitter feed: https://twitter.com/AirmanMagazine/stat ... 4481458176

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Unread postPosted: 04 Jul 2018, 12:50
by Dragon029
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More where they came from here: https://imgur.com/a/EMm7eDh

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 13 Jul 2018, 04:49
by spazsinbad
Six Page PDF 'LightningConductor' by Frank Crebas from Aviation Photographer 1 2018 Magazine attached.
“A Royal Netherlands AF F-35 Lightning II undergoes low-level operational training in Death Valley to the north of Edwards AFB, California, with photographers and squadron crew members of 323 TES observing. Photography of aircraft training for low-level operations brings some of the most exhilarating moments of the pursuit, and illustrates well the passion that drives us to fly thousands of miles and wait hours on end for often just a few seconds of (awesome) action. Steve Comber/COAP” Aviation Photographer Magazine Issue 1 2018

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Unread postPosted: 13 Jul 2018, 13:16
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 13 Jul 2018, 13:28
by sferrin
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Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 13 Jul 2018, 13:40
by mixelflick
Never has a jet looked so different, from so many different angles IMO..

Parked on the tarmac and looked at from the side, she's about as exciting as a 737 lol. From head on, it looks sleek and sinister. From below, it looks like a fine sculpture with her smooth, blended lines. From behind, it almost looks like a drone with a big honking engine.

Looks OK from the top too, although I really wish she had clipped wings like the Raptor. I do like her horizontal stabilizers, especially when she uses them to "bunt over" the top of a climb...

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 26 Jul 2018, 21:43
by spazsinbad
A U.S. Air Force F-35 Lightning II, P-51D Mustang and VS Spitfire perform a heritage flight during the 2018 Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford, England, July 14, 2018. This year's RIAT celebrated the 100th anniversary of the RAF and highlighted the United States' ever-strong alliance with England. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Brian Kimball) https://media.defense.gov/2018/Jul/24/2 ... 1-0047.JPG (1.3Mb)

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Unread postPosted: 27 Jul 2018, 20:06
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 29 Jul 2018, 00:23
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 31 Jul 2018, 23:33
by spazsinbad
Note F-35C SpeedBrakes OUT for more power responsiveness at slow speeds.

https://www.facebook.com/NAVAIR/photos/ ... =3&theater
"F-35 Pax River Integrated Test Force and Air Test and Evaluation Squadron (VX) 23 conduct an Advanced Aerial Refueling Control Law test with an F-35C" https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5C078EDC

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 01 Aug 2018, 16:33
by geforcerfx
Some of my favorites, the dutch star wars canyon one Sferrin posted is my phone wallpaper.
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Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 10 Aug 2018, 21:59
by spazsinbad
“An F-35A Lightning II and an FA-18 Super Hornet fly in formation over Volk Field, Wis., during Northern Lightning on Aug. 23, 2016. Northern Lightning is a tactical-level, joint training exercise that emphasizes fifth- and fourth-generation assets engaged in a contested, degraded environment. (U.S. Air Force photo/Senior Airman Stormy Archer)” https://media.defense.gov/2016/Aug/30/2 ... 74-547.JPG (1Mb)

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 17 Aug 2018, 17:11
by steve2267
Found via James Drew (@StrikeWriter) Twitter feed:

https://www.af.mil/News/Photos/igphoto/2001479119/

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Unread postPosted: 17 Aug 2018, 18:16
by f-16adf
USN F-35C's

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Unread postPosted: 22 Aug 2018, 02:58
by spazsinbad
https://www.facebook.com/NAVAIR/photos/ ... =3&theater "F-35B Lightning IIs with Marine Fighter Attack Detachment 211, the Wake Island Avengers, 13th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), fly over Wake Island during a regularly scheduled deployment of the Essex Amphibious Ready Group and the 13th MEU." https://scontent.fsyd7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5BF5CC9B

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Unread postPosted: 03 Sep 2018, 13:17
by spazsinbad
CVN 72 and 75 conduct dual-carrier ops in Atlantic 29 Aug 2018
http://alert5.com/2018/09/03/cvn-72-and ... more-71196
“USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) and USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) carried out dual-carrier sustainment and qualification operations Aug. 29 in the western Atlantic Ocean. During this period, their embarked air wings and escorts carried out war-at-sea exercise (WASEX) while in close proximity with each other.” https://alert5.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... 0-1105.jpg U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Brian M. Brooks

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 04 Sep 2018, 03:03
by FlightDreamz
F-35 icy runway testing at Eielson A.F.B. (see attached)

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Unread postPosted: 04 Sep 2018, 23:08
by FlightDreamz
A few random pic's from my collection. One F-35A and two F-35B STOVL Lightning II's

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Unread postPosted: 05 Sep 2018, 05:50
by sprstdlyscottsmn
Nice

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Unread postPosted: 08 Sep 2018, 21:03
by FlightDreamz
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Capt Olson F-35 Heritage Flight Team pilot high-speed pass Toronto Airshow 9-1-18 USAF pic Airman 1st Class Alexander Cook
Capt. Andrew “Dojo” Olson, F-35 Heritage Flight Team pilot and commander, performs a high-speed pass during the Canadian International Air Show in Toronto, Sept. 1, 2018. (U.S. Air Force photo by Airman 1st Class Alexander Cook)

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Unread postPosted: 09 Sep 2018, 00:06
by FlightDreamz
From the U.S.S. Lincoln aircraft carrier qualifications
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F-35C being directed to parking spot (note the wingtips are starting to fold)

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 09 Sep 2018, 01:33
by jetblast16
FlightDreamz wrote:
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Capt. Andrew “Dojo” Olson, F-35 Heritage Flight Team pilot and commander, performs a high-speed pass during the Canadian International Air Show in Toronto, Sept. 1, 2018. (U.S. Air Force photo by Airman 1st Class Alexander Cook)


THAT is awesome.

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 09 Sep 2018, 15:26
by ricnunes
The two photos posted above by FlightDreamz of the F-35 in Alaska always makes me smile since there was a time where the "F-35 haters" where often claiming that the F-35 couldn't operate on Arctic conditions.
Then those two photos came up and I remember to have posted those same couple photos in order to shut some of the "F-35 haters" up :mrgreen:

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 09 Sep 2018, 15:30
by FlightDreamz
@JetBlast16 Airman 1st Class Alexander Cook was able to capture a series of really great shots of the F-35 some of which while, performing at an airshow in Toronto where there was enough moisture in the air that the F-35 was creating a lot of vapor.
You can google around and find his photos here and there. Sometimes at https://www.af.mil/News/Photos/ or this example (sorry about the watermark)
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F-35 churning vapor - Airman 1st Class Alexander Cook

I download/bookmark his pic's whenever I can. He's really a good photographer. My :2c: anyways...

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 09 Sep 2018, 16:33
by jetblast16
https://media.defense.gov/2018/Sep/07/2 ... 66-906.JPG

Link to a high-res pic of the shot I like

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 09 Sep 2018, 16:36
by jetblast16
Thanks FlightDreamz!

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Unread postPosted: 09 Sep 2018, 23:43
by zerion
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Unread postPosted: 10 Sep 2018, 01:18
by durahawk
zerion wrote:Image


Any idea what the bump on the engine is??

Never seen that before...

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Unread postPosted: 10 Sep 2018, 01:26
by spazsinbad
Are you referring to the drag chute bump? It is removable and will be so on the Dutch variants but likely permanent on the Norwegian F-35A. There is plenty of info on the drag chute: GO BACKWARDS from here? OR Next One?

Norway may no longer require drag chute
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=16480&p=394575&hilit=chute+drag#p394575

F-35 drag chute testing
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=53569&p=389120&hilit=chute+drag#p389120

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 10 Sep 2018, 02:22
by durahawk
spazsinbad wrote:Are you referring to the drag chute bump? It is removable and will be so on the Dutch variants but likely permanent on the Norwegian


Ah yes, thanks Spaz. The US roundels threw me off a bit.

Most likely a Netherlands JOTT tail.

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Unread postPosted: 15 Sep 2018, 16:29
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 15 Sep 2018, 19:44
by zerion
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Unread postPosted: 17 Sep 2018, 12:34
by spazsinbad
https://theaviationist.com/wp-content/u ... sation.jpg “...condensation clouds that appeared around the JSF: known as shock collar or vapour cone, these cloud are generated by a sudden drop in pressure associated with high speed that allows water vapour to condense as vapour. Although many believe that these clouds appear when aircraft “break” the sound barrier, they can appear when the planes fly at subsonic speed, in humid air. The photographs in this post were taken at Leeuwarden by The Aviationist’s Jacek Siminski.” https://theaviationist.com/2016/06/15/t ... -f-35-jsf/

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Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2018, 21:33
by zerion
Marine F-35B over Iwo Jima.

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Unread postPosted: 03 Oct 2018, 01:47
by zerion
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Unread postPosted: 03 Oct 2018, 03:09
by element1loop
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That shot would look awesome if it wasn't all messed up with compression noise and low res conversion (they've even put on the pretty colored lights ... getting a bit arty).

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Unread postPosted: 29 Oct 2018, 19:56
by geforcerfx
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Unread postPosted: 29 Oct 2018, 20:58
by spazsinbad
element1loop wrote:
zerion wrote:

That shot would look awesome if it wasn't all messed up with compression noise and low res conversion (they've even put on the pretty colored lights ... getting a bit arty).

I'm not understanding your 'not understanding' about the "pretty colored lights" (plus how the photo was taken & technology discussed in another thread). Lights are ship & aircraft navigation lights which are also reflected off metal surfaces - longer exposure times in low light otherwise makes them APPEAR brighter than they are in reality - at night etc.

'jetblast16' comment: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=15969&p=402995&hilit=camera#p402995 "Camera picking-up NEAR IR"

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Unread postPosted: 11 Nov 2018, 00:02
by citanon
element1loop wrote:That shot would look awesome if it wasn't all messed up with compression noise and low res conversion (they've even put on the pretty colored lights ... getting a bit arty).


Google search by image is your friend. Here's the original image that I have denoised and cleaned up:

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Resampled down by 50% to reduce noise further:

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Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2018, 20:46
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 23 Nov 2018, 18:04
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 23 Nov 2018, 23:52
by citanon
That first picture should be on the desktops of every Russian and Chinese AD planner along with the caption "How do we beat that?!"

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Unread postPosted: 24 Nov 2018, 01:01
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 24 Nov 2018, 01:22
by spazsinbad
Nice photo/scene composition.

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Unread postPosted: 09 Feb 2019, 02:46
by zerion
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Unread postPosted: 09 Feb 2019, 02:50
by steve2267
A little cropping and that would make for a sick screen background on me mobile...

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Unread postPosted: 22 Feb 2019, 18:03
by zerion

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Unread postPosted: 22 Feb 2019, 18:38
by sprstdlyscottsmn
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Unread postPosted: 22 Feb 2019, 19:04
by steve2267
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:that's a nice shot


In addition to being a great photot, can really see the washout in the wing.

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2019, 05:08
by spazsinbad
F-35A Snow Sierra Madre Calif. Feb 2019 [NOT A C model as pointed out below by 'johnwill']

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Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2019, 06:05
by spazsinbad
Three F35's Fly Over Gulf of Mexico
01 Feb 2019 DVIDS

"FORT WALTON BEACH, FL, UNITED STATES 01 Feb 2019 Photo by Chief Petty Officer Shannon Renfroe 
Navy Public Affairs Support Element West  
EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. (Feb. 1, 2019) Three F-35C Lightning II, attached to Commander, Joint Strike Fighter Wing, the “Argonauts” of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 147, the "Rough Raiders "Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 125 and the "Grim Reapers" Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 101 complete a flight overhead Eglin Air Force Base in Fort Walton Beach, Fla. Feb. 1, 2019. Commander, Joint Strike Fighter Wing, headquartered at NASL ensures that each F-35C squadron is fully combat-ready to conduct carrier-based, all-weather, attack, fighter and support missions for Commander, Naval Air Forces. With its stealth technology, advanced sensors, weapons capacity and range, the F-35C will be the first 5th generation aircraft operated from an aircraft carrier. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Shannon E. Renfroe/Released)"

Photo: https://www.dvidshub.net/download/image/5076546 (jpg 6.1Mb)

Source: https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5076546/ ... ulf-mexico

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2019, 13:11
by mixelflick
Credit: The Aviationist..

From some angles, the F-35 looks positively other worldly. Almost like the B-2.

This is one of them, IMHO...

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Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2019, 19:33
by johnwill
spazsinbad wrote:F-35C Snow Sierra Madre Calif. Feb 2019


It's an A.

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Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2019, 21:13
by spazsinbad
Ooops, as one may see from my usual postings I add detail, however only the two Sierra Madre photos sent by e-mail with title 'F-35C' so I took it as so. Oh dear. :devil: :mrgreen: Have Grievance - Remonstration will follow. :drool: :roll: ZOOM IPP under? AND...
I did not notice until now the URL under the 'zerion' photo in post above: :doh: F-35A from 461th FLTS Edwards AFB :doh:

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Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2019, 21:33
by saberrider
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Because it is an Morphing jet

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Unread postPosted: 01 Mar 2019, 19:21
by juretrn
One of my favourite cars combined with the F-35 - official Lamborghini youtube (posted by The Aviationist)
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Unread postPosted: 01 Mar 2019, 19:25
by SpudmanWP
FAKE NEWS.. The colors don't match :)

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Unread postPosted: 01 Mar 2019, 19:26
by steve2267
Wait a minute.... did Lambo obtain Pierre Sprey's permission for that commercial? Clearly the car can really turn quite nicely... but we ALL KNOW the F-35 can't turn... :doh: :devil:

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Unread postPosted: 03 Mar 2019, 21:54
by ricnunes
steve2267 wrote:Wait a minute.... did Lambo obtain Pierre Sprey's permission for that commercial? Clearly the car can really turn quite nicely... but we ALL KNOW the F-35 can't turn... :doh: :devil:


And the Lamborghini can't turn too, didn't you know that?

Thanks to your highness Pierre Sprey, we all know that the F-35 is a modern F-105 while that Lamborghini is a modern Dragstar car :mrgreen:

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Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 02:23
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 15:21
by sprstdlyscottsmn
new BG right there

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Unread postPosted: 11 Mar 2019, 14:54
by spazsinbad

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Unread postPosted: 13 Mar 2019, 06:31
by steve2267
If only the original image to this could be found -- without all the silly text, though photog attribution would be fine.

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Unread postPosted: 13 Mar 2019, 06:40
by steve2267
Found it!

Original image appears to be here: https://www.dvidshub.net/image/4668256/ ... water-show

'Twill make a wonderful smartphone background.

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Unread postPosted: 13 Mar 2019, 10:33
by count_to_10
“Rage fest”?

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Unread postPosted: 13 Mar 2019, 10:39
by spazsinbad

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Unread postPosted: 15 Mar 2019, 18:25
by zerion
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Unread postPosted: 15 Mar 2019, 19:13
by spazsinbad
Note the note pads or is the LEFT ONE some kind of iPAD? for dis pilot? URL is same photo as the one immediately above:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1tr9MvW0AIp5Hx?format=jpg ZOOMED below (rotate entire pic 86 deg right if need be)

For HORIZONTAL LEVEL cockpit rotate 58 degrees right (zoomed below)

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Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2019, 14:12
by mixelflick
Those cockpit shots are the closest I've seen yet. At airshows at least, they keep everything VERY well covered. I was surprised to see this...

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Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2019, 14:59
by doge
spazsinbad wrote:Note the note pads or is the LEFT ONE some kind of iPAD? for dis pilot? URL is same photo as the one immediately above:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1tr9MvW0AIp5Hx?format=jpg ZOOMED below (rotate entire pic 86 deg right if need be)

For HORIZONTAL LEVEL cockpit rotate 58 degrees right (zoomed below)

Interesting perspective. 8)
I tried to find similar photos from my folder.
Looks like it's related to the pilot suit's legs...? (I’m not sure.)

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Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2019, 15:05
by quicksilver
If it’s an EDW or Nellis jet (ie a test asset) the left-hand ‘kneeboard’ may, in fact, be an electronic pad of some kind. It may also just be a tinted cover for the kneeboards built into the g-suit.

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Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2019, 15:29
by spazsinbad
Thanks - later I found a 'tinted' cover for the left leg pad which may explain but also some electronic pad because bright.

http://media.dma.mil/2012/Oct/17/200000 ... 35-286.JPG (16Mb)

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Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2019, 22:45
by operaaperta
Nice shot from Avalon 2019

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Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2019, 16:06
by zerion
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Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2019, 23:00
by sferrin
Hey Gums, you like?

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Unread postPosted: 27 Mar 2019, 09:41
by spazsinbad
Additional F-35As, KC-46s Wanted in New Unfunded Priorities List
25 Mar 2019 Rachel S. COhen

Photo: "​Capt. Andrew “Dojo” Olson, F-35 Demonstration Team pilot and commander performs a dedication pass in an F-35A Lightning II during the annual Heritage Flight Training Course on March 1, 2019, at Davis-Monthan AFB, Ariz. Air Force photo by SrA. Alexander Cook." http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pub ... 0F-35A.jpg

Source: http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pag ... -List.aspx

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Unread postPosted: 27 Mar 2019, 17:57
by SpudmanWP
Reflecting midweek...and looking forward to the weekend! An F-35 Lightning II is used as a prop for a video production filmed by the 2d Audiovisual Squadron at Hill Air Force Base, Utah, Jan.18, 2019. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Andrew Lee) #f35a #fighterjet #hillafb

https://twitter.com/HAFB/status/1110904676382322689

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Unread postPosted: 29 Mar 2019, 00:42
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 09 Apr 2019, 09:59
by spazsinbad
quicksilver wrote:If it’s an EDW or Nellis jet (ie a test asset) the left-hand ‘kneeboard’ may, in fact, be an electronic pad of some kind. It may also just be a tinted cover for the kneeboards built into the g-suit.

On previous page there are OVERHEAD screenshots of the F-35 left 'bright' kneepad. Just happened on this short Super Etendard Carrier Approach Video where perhaps a similar electronic left kneepad may be seen.

Super Etendard Modernise SEM Carrier Approach Pilot Actions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Po0-AFXOLg


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Unread postPosted: 19 Apr 2019, 01:00
by zerion
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Unread postPosted: 20 Apr 2019, 06:38
by geforcerfx
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Unread postPosted: 24 Apr 2019, 10:27
by spazsinbad
https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/wBveY ... uality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GEWK3NKBYVE2LLMVB6PAELQOC4.jpg “Capt. Andrew “Dojo" Olson, F-35 Demonstration Team pilot and commander performs a high-speed pass in an F-35A Lightning II during the Heart of Texas Airshow April 7, 2019. (Senior Airman Alexander Cook/U.S. Air Force)” https://www.defensenews.com/industry/20 ... 5-program/

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Unread postPosted: 25 Apr 2019, 00:45
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 08 May 2019, 17:58
by spazsinbad
Ten page article about the F-35 from 2016 may have? been posted elsewhere? Anyhoo this photo in the PDF here:

UNITED STATES AIR FORCE AIR POWER YEARBOOK 2016: http://aviationarchives.blogspot.com/20 ... -2016.html

100 page PDF: https://www.docdroid.net/0kmVynS/usaf-a ... k-2016.pdf (22Mb)

This yearbook from a different source is referenced here so I guess I shouldn't put the ten page PDF article on that thread?

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=6094&p=385247&hilit=yearbook#p385247 F-35 Lightning II vs Dassault Rafale

ORIGINAL 2016 YEARBOOK thread: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=28364&p=308915&hilit=Progress#p308915

DOWNLOAD TEN PAGE PDF of the above ARTICLE: download/file.php?id=22109 (PDF 2Mb)

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Unread postPosted: 11 May 2019, 00:52
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 11 May 2019, 06:28
by spazsinbad
Above fotie: "F-35A in Australia March 30, 2019. US Air Force" https://news.usni.org/wp-content/upload ... 225304.jpg

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Unread postPosted: 11 May 2019, 13:43
by sferrin
spazsinbad wrote:Above fotie: "F-35A in Australia March 30, 2019. US Air Force" https://news.usni.org/wp-content/upload ... 225304.jpg


For some reason when you save it from there it saves as a WEBP (even though the link says "JPG") so I converted it and posted it. And yes that's where I saw the photo. :)

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Unread postPosted: 19 May 2019, 16:14
by sferrin
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Unread postPosted: 19 May 2019, 20:49
by jetblast16
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Unread postPosted: 19 May 2019, 20:52
by jetblast16
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Unread postPosted: 19 May 2019, 21:04
by jetblast16
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Unread postPosted: 20 May 2019, 00:15
by jetblast16
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Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 20 May 2019, 03:10
by white_lightning35
jetblast16 wrote:
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I have a question: why is the f-35's landing gear so long compared to some other planes? I was looking at the f-22 and I couldn't help but notice how much shorter its landing gear is. Apologies if this is a dumb question.

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 20 May 2019, 03:43
by SpudmanWP
The gear needs to be tall enough to wheel 2k class weaponry into the main bay.

Add to that the needed travel length involved in STOVL & Carrier ops.

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 20 May 2019, 05:42
by spazsinbad
How woodjcha like to be an LSO wotchin' this fing cummin' atcha? HEAD for the HILLS Varmints! Max Arrest Landing WOT?!

More about gears for landing here: viewtopic.php?f=60&t=53476&p=377110&hilit=SCRIBD#p377110

PDF download: F-35 Landing Gear COMPLEX & ROBUST prn.pdf (140Kb)

download/file.php?id=25473 + 2 page extra PDF attached below now....
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F-35C Drop Test F-35 Structural Design, Development, & Verification pp2.pdf (0.6Mb)
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Nuther landing gears link: F-35 landing gear: viewtopic.php?f=60&t=52449

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 25 May 2019, 16:18
by spazsinbad
F-35A USAF external weapons Al Dhafra AB, UAE May 2019: http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pub ... 0sized.jpg

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 25 May 2019, 17:07
by zhangmdev
white_lightning35 wrote: I have a question: why is the f-35's landing gear so long compared to some other planes? ...


http://www.internetlooks.com/f35bbf02wasp.jpg

Clearance for the Three-Bearing Swivel Nozzle during short takeoff, I think.

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 25 May 2019, 18:51
by spazsinbad
zhangmdev wrote:
white_lightning35 wrote: I have a question: why is the f-35's landing gear so long compared to some other planes? ...

http://www.internetlooks.com/f35bbf02wasp.jpg
Clearance for the Three-Bearing Swivel Nozzle during short takeoff, I think.

The F-35B in STO mode FLIES OFF the deck - it does not rotate but lifts off in that attitude - so plenty of clearance AFAIK.

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 25 May 2019, 20:02
by zhangmdev
viewtopic.php?f=57&t=24438&start=75

It needs certain AoA to liftoff, short legs cannot provide enough clearance, like this one

https://www.airteamimages.com/pics/210/210778_800.jpg

F-35 landing gear looks very close to that of Lockheed ASTOVL Configuration 141B, X-35's looks even longer.
http://www.codeonemagazine.com/f35_arti ... tem_id=137
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Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 25 May 2019, 23:02
by spazsinbad
zhangmdev wrote:http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=24438&start=75
It needs certain AoA to liftoff, short legs cannot provide enough clearance, like this one
https://www.airteamimages.com/pics/210/210778_800.jpg
F-35 landing gear looks very close to that of Lockheed ASTOVL Configuration 141B, X-35's looks even longer.
http://www.codeonemagazine.com/f35_arti ... tem_id=137
http://www.codeonemagazine.com/images/m ... 7_8729.jpg

What am I or others supposed to glean from the first URL? The JPG URL shows a 'short leg Chinese conventional fighter rolling down the runway on three wheels taking off' I presume. It will rotate the nose UP & then fly away. You missed the procedure for the F-35B STO. The attitude you see is the attitude it has when it flies off the deck in STO configuration. The F-35B does not rotate to get airborne (unlike conventional aircraft). F-35B is in the take off attitude you see in photo.

Then there is a 'wall of text' at the second URL. What is important to this discussion there? Then the last URL for the JPG graphic shows an ASTOVL drawing (with canard?) which is how relevant (we can see the landing gear of the F-35B)?
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Three STO techniques described: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=53673&p=382315&hilit=clearance+STOVL+test#p382315
Jumping Jack Flash
July 2014 unknown author AIR International F-35 Special Edition

"..."...There are three ways to conduct a short take off (STO) in the F-35B: stick STO, button STO – and auto STO. “That’s a completely automated way to STO the aircraft off the flight deck. You punch in a distance and the aircraft will auto rotate to its optimal fly-out condition. It’s all based on distance: we know where the aircraft is spotted [before it starts its take-off run] and where it should start its actual rotation,” explained Rusnok. “Unlike a Harrier, which launches off the end of the ship flat, the F-35 rotates at about 225 feet from the bow, sits on two wheels until it gets to the end of the ship and actually takes off, a much different process to a Harrier. From a pilot perspective, you lose some sight of the front of the ship; in a Harrier you can see all the deck. But that’s all part of optimising a 35,000lb aeroplane to get off the ship compared to the Harrier, which is only 16,000 to 25,000lb.”

With stick STO the pilot controls the take-off by pulling back on the stick, holding it there and then rotating to the optimal pitch angle to fly off. In button STO, the pilot uses a trim switch which rotates the aircraft when pushed in, activating it when the aircraft passes the yellow STO rotation line positioned 225 feet from the bow of the ship.

“That was a temporary marking applied on the flight deck for this trial and is now being permanently installed on the ship with lighting,” explained Rusnok. “It’s based on optimising the performance of the aircraft and its flying qualities, so we can get the aeroplane off with the maximum amount of nozzle clearance and performance. The STO line is our visual cue to either pull the stick aft or hit the button; or if you’re on automated STO you should start seeing the aeroplane’s flight controls moving by the line, otherwise the pilot can intervene and pull back on the stick. We’ve never had to intervene.”...

...One of the big test points for DT I was to ensure adequate nozzle clearance in all the different test conditions. The engine nozzle swings down and back up during the take-off in accordance with inputs from the aircraft control laws.

“It’s all automated,” said Rusnok. “The pilot is not in the loop whatsoever – either they’re pushing the button and letting the aeroplane do its own thing or pulling back on the stick to help it. Monitoring systems cue when something is wrong, so you have to rely on them to keep you safe because the flight controls are being moved unbelievably quickly.”

Maj Rusnok said the take-off was very much like that ashore, with very little sink off the end of the deck. “The aeroplane is ridiculously powerful in STOVL mode. Just raw, unadulterated power.”..."

Source: AIR International F-35 Special Edition July 2014

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 25 May 2019, 23:22
by spazsinbad
SCROLL DOWN the page at my link for STO technique above for more info and a PDF about it. More articles in PDF below.

F-35B STO & CVF Ski Jump INFO 30NOV17 PRN pp172.pdf download/file.php?id=26013 (11Mb)
Blue Sky OPS
26 April 2012 AIR International F-35 Lightning II

"...F-35B Take-off Options
The F-35B STOVL variant has a range of take-off options using different modes to suit the basing. Take-offs from a ship, with either a flat deck or one with a ski jump, are also possible with a mode for each scenario. These are short take-off scenarios that can be achieved at speeds as low as 50kts with a deck or ground run of no more than a 200ft (60m). In the same mode, a take-off as fast as 150 knots is possible if the weight of the aircraft requires that speed. If the aircraft is light it can take off at a slow speed and faster when heavy.

Take-off at speeds as low as 5, 10, 15, 20kts (9, 18, 27 and 36km/h) are also possible, each of which is effectively a vertical take-off while moving forward. There are different ways of rotating the aircraft in STOVL mode, including the usual ‘pull on the stick’. Other ways are by pressing a button or programming a ground distance required after which, the aircraft control law initiates the rotation and selects the ideal angle for climb-out...."

Source: http://militaryrussia.ru/forum/download ... p?id=28256 [12.5Mb F-35LightningII.PDF]

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 25 May 2019, 23:28
by quicksilver
SpudmanWP wrote:The gear needs to be tall enough to wheel 2k class weaponry into the main bay.

Add to that the needed travel length involved in STOVL & Carrier ops.


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Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 26 May 2019, 00:12
by zhangmdev
spazsinbad wrote:What am I or others supposed to glean from the first URL? The JPG URL shows a 'short leg Chinese conventional fighter rolling down the runway on three wheels taking off' I presume. It will rotate the nose UP & then fly away. You missed the procedure for the F-35B STO. The attitude you see is the attitude it has when it flies off the deck in STO configuration. The F-35B does not rotate to get airborne (unlike conventional aircraft). F-35B is in the take off attitude you see in photo.

Then there is a 'wall of text' at the second URL. What is important to this discussion there? Then the last URL for the JPG graphic shows an ASTOVL drawing (with canard?) which is how relevant (we can see the landing gear of the F-35B)?

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There are a couple of images of F-35B STO with quite high AoA in the first link. The point of the second image is if J-31 has a Three-Bearing Swivel Nozzle pointing downward, it would have no clearance to rotate and takeoff. The drawing of ASTOVL has a line drawn to show how the nozzle limit the angle it can rotate and how long and where the main landing gear should be. The 'wall of text' is just where that image comes from.

F-35B's design is unique, when the "doors" are open, nozzle is pointing downward, horizontal tails deflected at extreme position, with very high AoA, ground clearance is not a concern when designing the landing gear? Perhaps not a major limiting factor, but no effect at all?

https://i2.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwo ... C828&ssl=1

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 26 May 2019, 01:29
by spazsinbad
I'm hoping you can realise that being cryptic is not helpful. Always best to leave clues for the reading use of an URL either copy/pasting a text quote from the URL page - or mention pictures on the page or post pictures - you get the picture?

Whatever the AoA that the F-35B Flies off the deck or runway at in STOVL mode was tested to extremes (according to the CLAW and weight of aircraft with all other variables). Did you read the three STO methods? A zoom lens photo of a STO is always dramatic whilst this was a test flight and we don't know the circumstances (unless you have those details?).

I'm not following your point about J-31 having a swivel nozzle - it does not have one so was designed as such? I'm hoping you see how I wasted my time reading 'the wall of text' when you could have mentioned the image was relevant somehow.

The ASTOVL drawing shows complete deflection which is NOT used for an F-35B STO. The first photo you used (which I uploaded next) shows the approximate angle of the 3BSN).
" 'zhangmdev' said: ... ground clearance is not a concern when designing the landing gear?..."

I agree. Ground clearance IS a concern under all circumstances when designing an aircraft, particularly for moving decks.

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 26 May 2019, 06:01
by SpudmanWP
STOVL takeoffs at rotation leave very little room between the nozzle and the deck. Now imagine that with a few 500 or 1000 lb JDAMs on the wing.

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 26 May 2019, 06:34
by spazsinbad
Those scenarios have been tested - outcome I presume was OK - aircraft designed to do this at MAX STO Take off weight.

Even the F-35B on the QE class can Ski Jump at MTOW. Always there may be restrictions due heat/WOD or whatever.

Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 30 May 2019, 00:43
by sferrin
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Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 02 Jun 2019, 00:50
by sferrin
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Re: Screensaver worthy Lightning shots

Unread postPosted: 02 Jun 2019, 14:20
by mixelflick
Bottom pic, gorgeous.

One match up I'm particularly interested in is F-35 vs. Typhoon. “No way an F-35 will ever match a Typhoon fighter jet in aerial combat” were the exact words of a Tiffy pilot, uttered way back in 2013.

Ever since, I have relished the opportunity to see who's right. Pretty broad statement. I would have picked my words far more carefully were I that Typhoon pilot.

We shall see...