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F-35 and chase plane photos

Unread postPosted: 08 Sep 2009, 01:31
by avon1944
Does any one know of any photos showing the F-35 with a chase plane without and external stores? I would like to show some anti-F-35 flamers that the F-35 can operate as well as the chase planes without the chase plane being loaded down.

RE: F-35 And Chase Plane Photos

Unread postPosted: 09 Sep 2009, 01:07
by SpudmanWP
The cleanest I have seen is a F-16 with a single centerline pod.

RE: F-35 And Chase Plane Photos

Unread postPosted: 09 Sep 2009, 02:43
by sprstdlyscottsmn
which enganges the AB to keep up with a loaded F-35 in a mil power climb.

Unread postPosted: 13 Sep 2009, 02:19
by Scorpion1alpha
Adrian,

I don't think you'll find a photo of a chase F-16 or F-18 without some sort of extra gas bag(s) with the F-35 at this time. There is such a discrepancy between the Viper and Hornet compared to the F-35 in terms of gas that they really need it otherwise they won't be able to "hang" with F-35 as long.

Same thing when F-16s or F-15s chase the F-22. They won't have any hope to "hang" with the Raptor for very long unless they have the extra gas. The only time where you'll really see a clean Viper or Eagle "playing" with the F-22 is when they're doing OT work where it's desirable for the F-15s and F-16s to be at their most optimal aerodynamic configuration.

Obviously, the F-35 isn't in that phase of testing yet. When that time comes, you can bet that a portion of the F-35 tests will be evaluated against our very best Viper and Eagle jocks flying their best aircraft and game.

Re: F-35 And Chase Plane Photos

Unread postPosted: 18 Sep 2009, 06:02
by avon1944
Thank you guys for your comments. -Adrian

Unread postPosted: 18 Sep 2009, 21:11
by VarkVet
Don’t forget that Raptor can be used as a Safety Chase as well! … and I bet she’s dying for some rookie a$$ as a target!

Or should I say more competition?
8)

Unread postPosted: 19 Sep 2009, 05:25
by That_Engine_Guy
VarkVet wrote:Don’t forget that Raptor can be used as a Safety Chase as well! … and I bet she’s dying for some rookie a$$ as a target!

Or should I say more competition?
8)


Oh no... :nono:

That might just prove that the F-22 is better at AA than the F-35, and we wouldn't want the administration or congress appear to be wrong... :doh:

Actual real-world data, performance, and results like that are strictly prohibited when politicians are making procurement decisions for the military; esp when the military is being 'told what they need' for success. :roll:

Remember the initial F-14/F-15 days when they weren't allowed to 'play' together? Back then it was the USN/USAF trying to keep both their respective programs alive.

Keep 'em flyin' :thumb:
TEG

Unread postPosted: 21 Sep 2009, 21:34
by SpudmanWP
I found it :)

At the 6:10 mark in this Youtube clip

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Unread postPosted: 21 Sep 2009, 23:02
by f35phixer
VarkVet wrote:Don’t forget that Raptor can be used as a Safety Chase as well! … and I bet she’s dying for some rookie a$$ as a target!

Or should I say more competition?
8)


I would think F-22 would never be used for safety chase. MTRFB costs of them vise an F-16/15 for AF is probably the same for us Navy guys, F-18E/F cost are prohibitive to budget. We use a-d.

Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2009, 15:29
by cobzz
SpudmanWP wrote:I found it :)

At the 6:10 mark in this Youtube clip

Image

What am I supposed to be looking at here?

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2009, 00:02
by SpudmanWP
The post that started this tread asked:

Does any one know of any photos showing the F-35 with a chase plane without and external stores?


As you can see, the chase F-16 in the above picture is totally naked of all external stores, ie no fuel tanks.

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2009, 14:12
by Lightndattic
SpudmanWP wrote:The post that started this tread asked:

Does any one know of any photos showing the F-35 with a chase plane without and external stores?


As you can see, the chase F-16 in the above picture is totally naked of all external stores, ie no fuel tanks.


Probably because that F-35 flight was to test the fuel dump system, so it was likely a short one.

Unread postPosted: 26 Sep 2009, 15:23
by sprstdlyscottsmn
Bah, the F-35 can dump half its internal fuel and still have more than an F-16 with a gas bag fresh from the tanker. your right though, prolly under two hours long and at moderate speeds.