Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 12 Sep 2020, 13:20
by spazsinbad
Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C 11 Sep 2020 LM PR
https://www.f35.com/news/detail/everyth ... the-f-35c1

MORE INFO: https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/documents/f35C.pdf (1Mb)

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Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 12 Sep 2020, 14:28
by sprstdlyscottsmn
Great shots!

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 12 Sep 2020, 16:41
by spazsinbad
:? Converted teh in animate GUF above to MP?! not attached. :?:

F-35C Arrest CVN with Bombs Weapons Test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28cOvLJuifM


Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 03:09
by stereospace
That actually compares quite favorably to an F-15E:

F-18E
Combat radius: 390 nmi (449 mi, 722 km)
Weapons Payload: 17,750 lb (8,050 kg)

F-35C
Combat radius - 670 nmi (1,241 km)
Weapons Payload - 18,000 lbs of combined internal and external weapons.

F-15E
Combat radius: 687 nmi (791 mi, 1,272 km)
Weapons & Fuel Payload - 23,000 lb (10,400 kg) of external fuel and ordnance.

Lots of dickering to be done along the lines of 'Well, the F-15E is M2.5+ while the F-35C is only M1.6+.', 'Yes, but the F-35 is stealthy and has better sensors.', etc. My point is simply the USN, with the F-35C has on deck, has an ordinance at range capability not too far from an F-15E. That's very handy, especially since the USN are usually the first to arrive.

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 04:46
by Corsair1963
stereospace wrote:That actually compares quite favorably to an F-15E:

F-18E
Combat radius: 390 nmi (449 mi, 722 km)
Weapons Payload: 17,750 lb (8,050 kg)

F-35C
Combat radius - 670 nmi (1,241 km)
Weapons Payload - 18,000 lbs of combined internal and external weapons.

F-15E
Combat radius: 687 nmi (791 mi, 1,272 km)
Weapons & Fuel Payload - 23,000 lb (10,400 kg) of external fuel and ordnance.

Lots of dickering to be done along the lines of 'Well, the F-15E is M2.5+ while the F-35C is only M1.6+.', 'Yes, but the F-35 is stealthy and has better sensors.', etc. My point is simply the USN, with the F-35C has on deck, has an ordinance at range capability not too far from an F-15E. That's very handy, especially since the USN are usually the first to arrive.


Such data is very misleading.....The F-15 doesn't really fly at Mach 2.5+ Nor, doesn't it carry anything remotely close to 23,000 lbs under real world conditions. Actually, under most mission profiles either light or heavy. The F-35A/C out performs it...

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 14:33
by aussiebloke
On the “Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C” web page at https://www.f35.com/news/detail/everyth ... the-f-35c1 I have a question about the third image from the top. This image shows an F-35C against a blue sky with clouds below. As the camera rotates around the aircraft what I am assuming are sensor locations are highlighted in a blue glow. There is a chevron or V shaped sensor highlighted at the front of the engine inlet. Is this a known sensor position? If so what sensor would this be?

It doesn’t appear to be any of the sensors seen in this discussion:
viewtopic.php?p=371234#p371234

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 14:43
by spazsinbad
I'll guess this is the animation - poorly executed showing the sensors BEFORE/AFTER they should become visible so that causes your perception problem I suspect? I could take a screengrab however I think the issue will become self-evident?

https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/images/sensor.gif

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The screengrab was 'PrtScn' keyed at end of the animation. Is this the one? Difficult to see where it is during animation.

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 14:44
by sprstdlyscottsmn
The "Danger - Jet Intake" cheverons?

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 14:51
by aussiebloke
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:The "Danger - Jet Intake" cheverons?

lol.... so not a sensor then! :P

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 14:53
by spazsinbad
It is hypnotic somwotic to view that animation too much. The 'highlighted' (white lines) blue thingo STARTS at the TOP of the airframe just behind the cockpit so it is part of the DAS system. START & END FRAMES (if youse'n can get them are...).

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 16:38
by quicksilver
aussiebloke wrote:On the “Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C” web page at https://www.f35.com/news/detail/everyth ... the-f-35c1 I have a question about the third image from the top. This image shows an F-35C against a blue sky with clouds below. As the camera rotates around the aircraft what I am assuming are sensor locations are highlighted in a blue glow. There is a chevron or V shaped sensor highlighted at the front of the engine inlet. Is this a known sensor position? If so what sensor would this be?

It doesn’t appear to be any of the sensors seen in this discussion:
viewtopic.php?p=371234#p371234


The displayed jet is transparent wrt the position of the upper DAS sensors. Thus, when it rotates, it continues to show the position of the upper sensors, both on the nose and on the top of the fuselage.

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 18:03
by aussiebloke
I made a pretty poor effort at explaining myself.

The V shape that caught my is the one that sprsdlyscottsmn has pointed out to me as being the “danger - jet Intake” chevron. Why it is glowing blue I am not sure..... :oops:

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2020, 21:32
by spazsinbad
:devil: Is that CHEVRON BLUE or is it WHITEish? IS IT SAFE? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr2CjFwNRPo


Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 15 Sep 2020, 03:03
by gc
16 F-35C for the future Carrier Air Wing. Less Rhinos featured.

https://seapowermagazine.org/navys-futu ... nto-focus/

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 15 Sep 2020, 03:44
by spazsinbad
Let us hope the USMC STOP 'perhaps intended' downsizing of their Bee Squadrons/BUY ASLO (yes I know). FLY NAVY

vTAILHOOKy was VIRTUAL (or should be say VIRTUOUS) this year so a graphic may become available soonish like here:

https://www.tailhook.net/ for: https://static.wixstatic.com/media/1e0c ... atures.jpg

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 15 Sep 2020, 05:37
by Corsair1963
gc wrote:16 F-35C for the future Carrier Air Wing. Less Rhinos featured.

https://seapowermagazine.org/navys-futu ... nto-focus/


Sounds like the USN is pushing the first of F-35C Squadrons to 16 instead of 10. Until every Air Wing acquires at least a single Squadron. I assume that number will drop back to 10 -12 aircraft. When they add a second squadron to each Air Wing post 2030.

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 15 Sep 2020, 05:54
by Corsair1963
Actually, the USN should be acquiring enough F-35C's to stand up two squadrons per year now. (i.e. 10 aircraft) So, makes you wonder. If, some cut backs in orders are coming???

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 20 Sep 2020, 20:00
by marauder2048
Corsair1963 wrote:
gc wrote:16 F-35C for the future Carrier Air Wing. Less Rhinos featured.

https://seapowermagazine.org/navys-futu ... nto-focus/


Sounds like the USN is pushing the first of F-35C Squadrons to 16 instead of 10. Until every Air Wing acquires at least a single Squadron. I assume that number will drop back to 10 -12 aircraft. When they add a second squadron to each Air Wing post 2030.



The slide from Tailhook 2020.

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 21 Sep 2020, 12:04
by hornetfinn
marauder2048 wrote:The slide from Tailhook 2020.


Interesting, thanks you. I find it a bit strange that the F-35 SATCOM and DAS system have been omitted in this slide. Also interesting that JSOW is missing from weapons list. Maybe these are just unintentional omissions?

Re: Everything You Need to Know about the F-35C

Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2020, 07:07
by marauder2048
hornetfinn wrote:
marauder2048 wrote:The slide from Tailhook 2020.

Also interesting that JSOW is missing from weapons list.


Yeah. I noticed that too..but they have JASSM-ER (?!) which, AFAIK, the Navy has not committed to buying.