F-35B/MV-22/KC-130J Synergy

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Unread post23 Apr 2014, 00:58

The Marines stay ahead of the curve exploring innovative MAGTF CONOPs leveraging the game-changing abilities of their new mounts.
Information gleaned from F-35B sensors made available in real-time to infantry on the ground... eyes and ears of the Gator fleet.


http://www.sldinfo.com/shaping-a-new-ap ... -exercise/



SHAPING A NEW APPROACH TO FORCE INSERTION: THE SAN CLEMENTE ISLAND EXERCISE
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Unread post23 Apr 2014, 15:46

popcorn, you upgraded from double post to double thread!
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Unread post23 Apr 2014, 16:44

sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:popcorn, you upgraded from double post to double thread!

:oops: Taking it to the next level.. LOL
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Unread post03 May 2014, 02:29

I'll guess this stuff will be compatible with the F-35B? Buehler? Anyone?.... Long article best source read. Only last part excerpted here below.
V-22s, Other Marine Aircraft Need Battle Networks 02 May 2014 Sydney J. Freedberg Jr.
"...Old-fashioned procurement & new-wave adversaries
The two-pronged problem is how to build the battlefield networks so that they can survive sequestration, rapid technological change, and the high-threat environments envisioned in Expeditionary Force 21.

“It’s all about waveforms and networks,” Glavy said. “We’re spending a lot of time and energy [on] the ability to have multi-waveform, multi-channel interconnectivity with the MAGTF [Marine Air-Ground Task-Force].” But the Marines can’t run their network programs as they have done in the past, he warned.

“The classic Marine Corps way to do this is set a standard,” Glavy said. “[For example], ‘variable Message Format will be the standard!’ We tried to do that four years ago. It was a terrible failure, because everything’s changing, changing so quickly.”

The issue is primarily the proliferation of different “waveforms,” the various protocols that modern digital radios use to share information. “All these waveforms…there’re so many out there that it’s so hard to say, ‘this will be the standard,’” Gavy said. “We’d love to buy Link-16 for all my friends,” he added, referring to the NATO standard for secure datalinks, but, cost aside, such an investment would commit the service to a single standard while technology evolved past it.

So the Marines’ new approach, said Glavy, is “can’t beat ’em, join ’em”: Instead of one standard for once and for all, what’s needed is a “Rosetta Stone gateway capability” that can translate quickly from one waveform to another. Yes, he admitted, translating everything requires more processing power than sticking with a single standard, but Moore’s Law means processing power gets cheaper all the time. “If you can do this [waveform-to-waveform translation] in a software reprogrammable format,” Glavy added, “you’re not tied to black boxes” — that is, to specific hardware from specific contractors.

Traditional procurement practices are not the only problem: So is the enemy, whom Expeditionary Force 21 predicts will be far more technologically savvy than the Taliban. In Afghanistan and Iraq, the US military has relied heavily on satellite communications, but that’s “the easy answer,” Glavy said. Since SATCOM is vulnerable to enemy anti-satellite weapons and old-fashioned jamming, for example, the Marines are experimenting with low-altitude networks that link RQ-21 drones and manned aircraft directly with line-of-sight transmissions.

“We’re going to continue to go down this technology trail,” Glavy emphasized. “We’re not going to be dependent on it.” Ultimately, if the enemy shuts down the whole network, Marines need to be proficient with a handheld compass, paper maps, and operate on their own initiative.

“What will always be in place in the Marine Corps, technology or no technology, is commander’s intent,” Glavy said. “Every Marine leaves the planning session” – be it for a brigade or a platoon – “with the commander’s vision for success. That will always be the ace in the hole.”

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Unread post03 May 2014, 07:19

That's the funny thing about standards - - - there are so many of them. :D
Anyway, the F-35s versatile CNI suite is one of it's less heralded strengths but essential to its defining role as a key node in the whole NCW extravaganza..
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Unread post05 May 2014, 03:55

Posted in haste on another thread but relevant here due subject matter starting thread. HokaY?

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Grunt Tech: Marines Gain Greater Intel Before Boots Hit Ground Published on Apr 3, 2014
"Infantry Officer's Course utilizes tablets with the F-35's Block 2B software to increase situational awareness and plan operations during a long range raid on San Clemente Island, Calif., March 24, 2014."


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Unread post05 May 2014, 04:12

Quotable quotes referencing the Marines' and their innovative work.. the pace of change is accelerating and the Marines intend to lead the way.

According to Col. Orr:

We are pushing the concept of providing situational awareness to a much lower tactical level than we have ever done before. We are empowering decision makers at a much lower level while shaping a robust ground and air picture for the overall force.

You would be amazed at what can be achieved as we move forward along these lines. And we are just beginning to understand the art of the possible.”

Orr added that:

“We take an aggregate air picture which traditionally would be only available to an air operations center and push it down to the users at platoon or squad level.My background as a Link-16 enabled aviator has taught me the benefits of increased situational awareness.We are trying to take the increased situational awareness picture down to a junior level.

As General Mattis likes to say, we push information to the ‘point of discomfort’.
Amazing things can happen when we act this way.
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Unread post05 May 2014, 04:15

Sounds like every Gyrene is going to be like that guy in the TV Show "INTELLIGENCE"! :devil: Just give me the chip in swallowable format - I don't like trepanning. :doh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligen ... _TV_series)

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Unread post05 May 2014, 04:18

spazsinbad wrote:Sounds like every Gyrene is going to be like that guy in the TV Show "INTELLIGENCE"! :devil: Just give me the chip in swallowable format - I don't like trepanning. :doh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligen ... _TV_series)


Just a matter of time Spaz... just think of the possibilities.. no more "senior moments" :D
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Unread post05 May 2014, 05:25

Not sure what has been discussed thus far explains the title "F-35B/MV-22/KC-130J Synergy". Really, LM & Boeing should be looking at next gen stealth transport tankers besides next gen fighters.
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Unread post05 May 2014, 06:07

weasel1962 wrote:Not sure what has been discussed thus far explains the title "F-35B/MV-22/KC-130J Synergy". Really, LM & Boeing should be looking at next gen stealth transport tankers besides next gen fighters.

Synergy is the interaction of multiple elements in a system to produce an effect different from or greater than the sum of their individual effects.

Each platform contributes it's unique attributes/capabilities in a complementary manner to achieve the desired outcome.,  sounds like,synergy to me.

How does a stealth tanker figure in the same scenario synergistically vs what a KC-130J provides?
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Unread post05 May 2014, 06:13

Throw in (not literally) a V-22 TANKER or TWO for those urgent on ground and in air top ups! :drool: A KC-130J can do the same if sufficient ground strip available - the V-22 does the VL or RVL perhaps?
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Unread post05 May 2014, 06:22

From the FreeBird artickle above - a Marine with a computer - who'da thunk? I guess the Marine Maintainers have ALIS disputers but hey - these guys are going 21Century Foxy.... :devil: ADDITIONAL TEXT from the FrieBoig article above...
"... A recent experiment put working WiFi in the back of a V-22, but that’s just the first step towards what’s possible.

“As V-22s come into a landing zone and take fire – [picking up] ‘hostile fire indications’ – we have systems that can detect that. [But] those systems talk to nothing,” Glavy said. “What if those systems talked to each other and maybe talked to the raid force commander….so he has fresh data, not information but knowledge, on where the enemy is and what they’re doing?”

Replacing old aircraft with better ones is a major improvement, but it’s additive. “One plus one equals two,” Glavy said. Network those systems and that “is where one plus one equals 22.”

“The guys at Pax River” – home base for Marine Corps and Navy test pilots – “don’t like this conversation,” said Glavy, a CH-46 pilot himself. But Glavy’s boss, Deputy Commandant for Aviation Lt. Gen. Robert Schmidle has been pushing hard, Glavy said. “Let me tell you,” he said with a chuckle, “the knuckle-dragging -46 pilot is being dragged along.”...


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Unread post05 May 2014, 06:41

Some more networkin' assets? THANK YOU Mr.Brittannia... THIS IS OLD NEWS BTW....

US Marine Corps studying Harrier enhancements
22 May 2013 Dave Majumdar

"The US Marine Corps is studying potential enhancements for the Boeing AV-8B Harrier II jump-jet to keep the aircraft relevant to its planned 2030 retirement date.

Julie Praiss, Boeing's Aircraft and Weapons Support vice-president, says the USMC and the company are contemplating adding upgrades such as a Link 16 enhancement and variable message format datalinks to the aircraft....

...The decision was partly driven by delays in the Lockheed Martin F-35B Joint Strike Fighter programme, but also the realisation that the venerable aircraft has far more life left on the 134-airframe fleet than the service's increasingly fatigued legacy Boeing F/A-18A/B/C/D inventory." {USMC wishes to thank the clutzy Brits for selling dere Hairiers} :mrgreen:

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Unread post07 May 2014, 11:01

Some more USMC OLD (only a few months and you are ancient in this biz) wizardelectronry via a bunch of assets....
GA-ASI and Northrop Grumman Showcase Additional Unmanned Electronic Attack Capabilities in Second USMC Exercise 22 Jan 2014

"SAN DIEGO – 22 January 2014 – General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, Inc. (GA ASI), a leading manufacturer of Remotely Piloted Aircraft (RPA), tactical reconnaissance radars, and electro-optic surveillance systems, and Northrop Grumman Corporation (NYSE:NOC), a leading global security company, today announced the second successful demonstration of Predator® B/MQ-9 Reaper's Electronic Attack capability featuring Northrop Grumman's new Pandora Electronic Warfare (EW) system at the U.S. Marine Corps' (USMC) Weapons and Tactics Instructor (WTI) course held at Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Yuma on October 22.

"Our collaboration with the Marine Corps and Northrop Grumman demonstrates the operational flexibility of the Predator B from being primarily a counter-insurgency aircraft to a platform that can address a broader spectrum of operational requirements," said Frank W. Pace, president, Aircraft Systems, GA-ASI. "We believe this will be important especially in a declining budget environment as our customers will be seeking greater warfighting value using less expensive solutions."

The purpose of this second demonstration was to evaluate the capability of a RPA to conduct electronic warfare missions in concert with other unmanned aircraft systems and EA-6B Prowlers in a multi-node approach against a more capable Integrated Air Defense System (IADS). The event expanded upon GA-ASI and Northrop Grumman's successes in last April's WTI exercise and focused on delivering a more integrated and networked EW capability.

GA-ASI participated in the demonstration with a company-owned Predator B RPA equipped with a company-produced jamming pod containing Northrop Grumman's Pandora EW System and controlled by a GA-ASI Ground Control Station (GCS). The Northrop Grumman payload proved to be very effective and was integrated seamlessly with the Predator B avionics and command and control architecture.

Northrop Grumman's Pandora is a multi-function wideband solution that provides electronic attack, support and protection. The lightweight, low-power system includes a flexible architecture to meet emerging needs and supports open interfaces to enable integration and interoperability.

"These demonstrations show what's now possible with our high-performance electronic warfare solution," said Janine Nyre, vice president of radio frequency combat information systems at Northrop Grumman. "Pandora brings optimal size, weight, and power to current and future high-endurance platforms, opening up a new world of electronic attack capabilities."

The RPA was able to integrate into a Marine Command and Control (C2) network, enabling control of the aircraft's EW payload and other assets with a higher level of coherency among the platforms to deliver effects across the Electro-magnetic Spectrum (EMS). This C2 capability was exercised from the Cyber/Electronic Warfare Coordination Cell (CEWCC) located at MCAS Yuma and supported a large aircraft strike package which addressed simulated targets located hundreds of miles north at Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake.

"We demonstrated operational concepts using a layered approach to electronic warfare with GA-ASI's Reaper, EA-6B Prowlers, and other Group 3 Unmanned Aerial Vehicles [UAVs]," stated Brig. Gen. Matthew G. Glavy, Assistant Deputy Commandant for Marine Aviation. "By conducting multiple events with a networked, pod-based jamming system, we were able to evaluate the viability of UAVs to conduct electronic warfare missions against enemy air defenses in support of tactical strike aircraft."

The focus of GA-ASI and Northrop Grumman during future demonstrations will be to examine additional capabilities beyond EW and extend the network by linking RPA to deliver effects across the EMS."

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