FY2020 DoD Budget
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Maybe they could start a museum and put them in with the 3 Zumwalt-class destroyers.
Total cost including development is $7.5 Billion per ship.
The gun will not have shells since each was going to cost between $800,000 to 1 million each. This leaves them unable to fulfill the naval gunfire support role it was designed for.
The 3rd one might get a railgun.
Total cost including development is $7.5 Billion per ship.
The gun will not have shells since each was going to cost between $800,000 to 1 million each. This leaves them unable to fulfill the naval gunfire support role it was designed for.
The 3rd one might get a railgun.
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Further to 'meaninglessness of LIF' & DoD 'Budgetting' 2020 according to some via following post - more details. 
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"...He [Capt. Philip Malone, the program manager for CVN 79, CVN 80 and CVN 81] also said JFK will receive modifications to operate the F-35C strike fighter after its post-shakedown availability. The modification involves changes in the squadron ready room and the flight deck’s jet-blast deflectors, among others. He said his office is evaluating the impact of the installations on the carrier’s schedule." https://seapowermagazine.org/navy-consi ... y-for-jfk/
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Note the times for the Armed Services committee hearings tomorrow —
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SECDEF Esper Preparing For Future Defense Spending Cuts
By: Ben Werner
May 4, 2020 5:11 PM
When the bill comes due for Congress to pay off nearly $3 trillion in spending bills passed to spur economic activity during the COVID-19 shutdown, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper worries future Pentagon budgets will take a hit.
For the Department of Defense to continue increasing its readiness and modernize its forces, the Pentagon needs its topline budget to grow between 3 percent and 5 percent annually, Esper said Monday morning during a webinar hosted by the Brookings Institution.
“I am concerned of course that the massive infusion of dollars into the economy by the Congress and the executive branch, nearly $3 trillion, may throw us off that course, if you will, because we all recognize the United States has an enormous debt and we have to deal with that too,” Esper said. “So, there is a concern there that may lead to smaller defense budgets in the future at the critical time we need to continue making this adjustment, where we look at China, then Russia, as our long-term strategic competitors.”
President Donald Trump’s proposed Fiscal Year 2021 Department of Defense budget requested $705.4 billion, which is $7.2 billion less than the DoD spending in FY 2020. Congress is weighing the president’s spending proposal, but it’s too soon to tell the amount of spending Congress will authorize and appropriate.
“Many have raised this concern, that the huge current deficits and a future focus on domestic issues, both the economy and health, will lead to lower defense budgets,” Mark Cancian, a senior advisor for the international security program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told USNI News after the webinar. “However, I am something of a contrarian here. Congress has increased the current budget, FY 2020, to fight the pandemic. Congress will likely fund the FY 2021 budget at something close to the request, since I don’t see any near-term interest in fiscal restraint.”
Regardless of the outcome in this November’s presidential election, Cancian said a new administration will propose the FY 2022 budget. If Trump wins a second term, Cancian expects the budget will be flat in real terms, as the projection currently shows.
If the presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden wins in November, Cancian doesn’t expect a radical shift spending. A Biden FY 2022 budget proposal would likely cut defense spending by about 5 percent, or $35 billion to be phased in over five years, Cancian said. A Biden administration will likely adopt the same national security strategy as the Obama administration did in its later years, he said, which would require a sizable defense effort.
The Pentagon is investing heavily in more efficient systems, Esper said. This includes developing artificial intelligence, hypersonic weapons and defense systems, space capabilities, cyber and directed energy systems. At the same time, the Pentagon must evaluate which systems to keep.
“That means shedding the legacy force, and moving to a more modern force,” Esper said. “And that more modern force looks like completely revitalized strategic forces — and, as you know, we’re rebuilding all three legs of the nuclear triad, whether it’s the ground-based strategic deterrent, the new SSBNs or long-range strategic bombers.”
The possibility of budget cuts, though, is real, Todd Harrison, the director of defense budget analysis at CSIS, told USNI News after the webinar.
“I think DoD should start preparing for the possibility of a budget downturn,” Harrison said. “It should not repeat the mistakes it made in 2012-2013 in the leadup to the [Budget Control Act] going into effect, where the department refused to plan for the cuts in advance. The argument then was, ‘if we plan for cuts, we make the cuts more likely to happen.’ But the cuts happened anyway because they were driven by concerns over the deficit, not defense. I think the same may be true this time around.”
Esper said the Pentagon is already considering ways it can save money in the event of future budget cuts. Some money-savers may change how operations are conducted but wouldn’t come at the expense of readiness or lethality, he said
An example is developing a concept of immediate reaction forces and contingent reaction forces to respond to global situations, Esper said. This shift does not require a lot of new spending and, in some cases, might save money.
“I want to move much more in the direction of operational deployment as compared to permanently deployed foreign forces,” Esper said. “There are a number of things we can do to keep our adversaries off balance, to improve our own readiness at the same time, that don’t necessarily involve massive infusions of dollars.”
https://news.usni.org/2020/05/04/secdef ... nding-cuts
By: Ben Werner
May 4, 2020 5:11 PM
When the bill comes due for Congress to pay off nearly $3 trillion in spending bills passed to spur economic activity during the COVID-19 shutdown, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper worries future Pentagon budgets will take a hit.
For the Department of Defense to continue increasing its readiness and modernize its forces, the Pentagon needs its topline budget to grow between 3 percent and 5 percent annually, Esper said Monday morning during a webinar hosted by the Brookings Institution.
“I am concerned of course that the massive infusion of dollars into the economy by the Congress and the executive branch, nearly $3 trillion, may throw us off that course, if you will, because we all recognize the United States has an enormous debt and we have to deal with that too,” Esper said. “So, there is a concern there that may lead to smaller defense budgets in the future at the critical time we need to continue making this adjustment, where we look at China, then Russia, as our long-term strategic competitors.”
President Donald Trump’s proposed Fiscal Year 2021 Department of Defense budget requested $705.4 billion, which is $7.2 billion less than the DoD spending in FY 2020. Congress is weighing the president’s spending proposal, but it’s too soon to tell the amount of spending Congress will authorize and appropriate.
“Many have raised this concern, that the huge current deficits and a future focus on domestic issues, both the economy and health, will lead to lower defense budgets,” Mark Cancian, a senior advisor for the international security program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told USNI News after the webinar. “However, I am something of a contrarian here. Congress has increased the current budget, FY 2020, to fight the pandemic. Congress will likely fund the FY 2021 budget at something close to the request, since I don’t see any near-term interest in fiscal restraint.”
Regardless of the outcome in this November’s presidential election, Cancian said a new administration will propose the FY 2022 budget. If Trump wins a second term, Cancian expects the budget will be flat in real terms, as the projection currently shows.
If the presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden wins in November, Cancian doesn’t expect a radical shift spending. A Biden FY 2022 budget proposal would likely cut defense spending by about 5 percent, or $35 billion to be phased in over five years, Cancian said. A Biden administration will likely adopt the same national security strategy as the Obama administration did in its later years, he said, which would require a sizable defense effort.
The Pentagon is investing heavily in more efficient systems, Esper said. This includes developing artificial intelligence, hypersonic weapons and defense systems, space capabilities, cyber and directed energy systems. At the same time, the Pentagon must evaluate which systems to keep.
“That means shedding the legacy force, and moving to a more modern force,” Esper said. “And that more modern force looks like completely revitalized strategic forces — and, as you know, we’re rebuilding all three legs of the nuclear triad, whether it’s the ground-based strategic deterrent, the new SSBNs or long-range strategic bombers.”
The possibility of budget cuts, though, is real, Todd Harrison, the director of defense budget analysis at CSIS, told USNI News after the webinar.
“I think DoD should start preparing for the possibility of a budget downturn,” Harrison said. “It should not repeat the mistakes it made in 2012-2013 in the leadup to the [Budget Control Act] going into effect, where the department refused to plan for the cuts in advance. The argument then was, ‘if we plan for cuts, we make the cuts more likely to happen.’ But the cuts happened anyway because they were driven by concerns over the deficit, not defense. I think the same may be true this time around.”
Esper said the Pentagon is already considering ways it can save money in the event of future budget cuts. Some money-savers may change how operations are conducted but wouldn’t come at the expense of readiness or lethality, he said
An example is developing a concept of immediate reaction forces and contingent reaction forces to respond to global situations, Esper said. This shift does not require a lot of new spending and, in some cases, might save money.
“I want to move much more in the direction of operational deployment as compared to permanently deployed foreign forces,” Esper said. “There are a number of things we can do to keep our adversaries off balance, to improve our own readiness at the same time, that don’t necessarily involve massive infusions of dollars.”
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Esper: Flat budget could speed cutting of legacy programs
WASHINGTON — If the Pentagon faces tighter budgets in the coming years, departmental planners should look to cut legacy programs first in order to preserve funding for modernization requirements, Defense Secretary Mark Esper told reporters Tuesday.
“Frankly, my inclination is not to risk any in the modernization programs; it’s to go back and pull out more of the legacy programs,” Esper said in response to a question about what modernization priorities, such as shipbuilding, might be on the table.
“We need to move away from legacy [programs] and we need to invest those dollars into the future. We have a lot of legacy programs out there right now. I could pick dozens out from all branches of the services. So that is where I would start,” he continued.
“What that would mean is probably accepting some near-term risk, but I think that is something [that has to happen], given the trajectory that we see China is on, and we know where Russia may be going in the coming years. So that is one place where I would begin, but we’re going to be working through this course of action.”
https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/20 ... -programs/
WASHINGTON — If the Pentagon faces tighter budgets in the coming years, departmental planners should look to cut legacy programs first in order to preserve funding for modernization requirements, Defense Secretary Mark Esper told reporters Tuesday.
“Frankly, my inclination is not to risk any in the modernization programs; it’s to go back and pull out more of the legacy programs,” Esper said in response to a question about what modernization priorities, such as shipbuilding, might be on the table.
“We need to move away from legacy [programs] and we need to invest those dollars into the future. We have a lot of legacy programs out there right now. I could pick dozens out from all branches of the services. So that is where I would start,” he continued.
“What that would mean is probably accepting some near-term risk, but I think that is something [that has to happen], given the trajectory that we see China is on, and we know where Russia may be going in the coming years. So that is one place where I would begin, but we’re going to be working through this course of action.”
https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/20 ... -programs/
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I wonder what the internal calculations as far as the budget outlook is concerned. Flat budget was probably a "realistic" option, at least through the FYDP, pre-covid. I am not sure whether that is a realistic scenario or an optimistic one given the current situation. Meanwhile, remarkably, the AF went through the entire budget up-cycle without ever putting forth (or convincing the OSD to put forth) a larger F-35 request than 48 or so IIRC so unless they act fast the same level of congressional support that has consistantly boosted annual buys may not be there when things begin to be traded within programs and between services. Hopefully when the entire FY21 dust settles the AF will still get the 62 aircraft it got in FY20. The Navy probably made the best case in terminating the Super Hornet post FY21. They should be safer with their F-35C buy rates relative to the AF.
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Did Y'all see China reduce the US military, kill tens of thousands of Americans, and smoke 4 percent of the US GDP without firing a shot?
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Can't wait for HuaWei 5G to repopulate the planet somewhat. It's just a jump to the left then a step to the right, etc... Let's do the TIME WARP again. https://www.google.com/search?q=time+wa ... 8732075290
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Huawei and Covid 19? Gives new meaning to phone virus.
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weasel1962 wrote:Huawei and Covid 19? Gives new meaning to phone virus.
On a related note.......
U.S. Mulls Pulling Spy Planes From Britain, Not Basing F-35s There Over Huawei 5G Plans: Report
The United States says the Chinese firm's work on the United Kingdom's national 5G network is a major security risk.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... a2rBUXsGek
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Corsair1963 wrote:weasel1962 wrote:Huawei and Covid 19? Gives new meaning to phone virus.
On a related note.......
U.S. Mulls Pulling Spy Planes From Britain, Not Basing F-35s There Over Huawei 5G Plans: Report
The United States says the Chinese firm's work on the United Kingdom's national 5G network is a major security risk.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... a2rBUXsGek
That would be a massive win for China. If US policy was to be to withdraw the forces from anywhere (even the closest 5 eyes ally) with Huawei 5G one has just ceeded uncontested goegraphical control of vast parts of the world.
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old_rn wrote:Corsair1963 wrote:weasel1962 wrote:Huawei and Covid 19? Gives new meaning to phone virus.
On a related note.......
U.S. Mulls Pulling Spy Planes From Britain, Not Basing F-35s There Over Huawei 5G Plans: Report
The United States says the Chinese firm's work on the United Kingdom's national 5G network is a major security risk.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... a2rBUXsGek
That would be a massive win for China. If US policy was to be to withdraw the forces from anywhere (even the closest 5 eyes ally) with Huawei 5G one has just ceeded uncontested goegraphical control of vast parts of the world.
It will never happen....
Plus, even if it did the US would just relocate those forces to another part of Europe. So, don't see how that would benefit China???
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XanderCrews wrote:Did Y'all see China reduce the US military, kill tens of thousands of Americans, and smoke 4 percent of the US GDP without firing a shot?
At the expense of a big toe? They also burned a hole in the pocketbook. That wasn't a very effective way to neutralize America.
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Whilst the rest of the world ain't happy with China neva. What a PR disaster - nevermind the damage caused otherwise.
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