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by sferrin » 31 May 2017, 13:23

tincansailor wrote:Brilliant, this explains the whole Trump phenomenon. Everything was going to be so simple, and easy to solve. Everyone who had been running the government for the last 50 years was just stupid. Now after only 4 months he's done what Russia hasn't been able to do in 70 years, drive a wedge between the United States and Europe. Just brilliant.


I'm sure Hillary would have been brilliant. :roll: :doh: :bang:
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by weasel1962 » 31 May 2017, 14:53

No worries. Trump's got it covfefe.


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by mk82 » 31 May 2017, 15:20

Briganti is another f*cking idiot. A match made in heaven.......Briganti and Solomon.....issshhhh!!!


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by SpudmanWP » 31 May 2017, 15:58

operaaperta wrote:A quick question on the concurrency mods list in the FY18 budget.

When a defect is discovered and it is found to be a design flaw, who picks up the tab for the fix?
Would industry subsidise the rollout of the fix to the fleet or is that on the end user to pay for.

I have heard Brogdan say that industry will pay for the Ejection seat mods, does he mean to the whole fleet or just the cost of engineering the fix.


IIRC LRIP 1-4 = 100% JPO, LRIP 5-9 = 50/50, post LRIP 9 = LM.
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by tincansailor » 01 Jun 2017, 16:10

sferrin wrote:
tincansailor wrote:Brilliant, this explains the whole Trump phenomenon. Everything was going to be so simple, and easy to solve. Everyone who had been running the government for the last 50 years was just stupid. Now after only 4 months he's done what Russia hasn't been able to do in 70 years, drive a wedge between the United States and Europe. Just brilliant.


I'm sure Hillary would have been brilliant. :roll: :doh: :bang:



I didn't vote for her ether. No she was a terrible candidate, but she wouldn't have damaged our position in the world. In four months we've given up our economic leadership in the Pacific, damaged trade with Mexico, weakened our leadership of NATO, and our president is a laughing stock among our democratic allies. This afternoon he may leave the United States isolated on clean energy technology, standing proudly with Nicaragua, and Syria against every other country on the planet. His commitment to America's 70,000 coal miners is rock solid. Perhaps he thinks America will ride into the future on a coal fired steam locomotive?

The only relations we've improved are those with fundamentalist Sunni States, and the Russians. He's caused rifts with Israel, the UK, the Germans, the French, (He supported the neo-Fascist National Front) and even insulted Montenegro, and called into question our commitment to Article 5 of the NATO Treaty. All this on a trip he called the most successful diplomatic mission in decades. Success? What results was he looking for?

One positive result of all this maybe F-35 sales to Germany. In the post WWII period we've never wanted the Germans to rearm heavily. Trump may get his 2% from Germany, and then some. This guy is a wreaking ball careening through the world. Our best hope is that The Special Consul investigation will lead to an early exit from the White House. I don't see how we make it though another 45 months of this. This administration has the same sinking feeling of Nixon's in early 1974. What ever happens it's not going to be pretty.


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by sferrin » 01 Jun 2017, 16:32

tincansailor wrote:No she was a terrible candidate, but she wouldn't have damaged our position in the world.


She'd have been OWNED by those in other countries via the payoffs to The Clinton Foundation she'd have had to make good on. Not sure how you think that would be better than our perceived "damaged" position.

tincansailor wrote:In four months we've given up our economic leadership in the Pacific


Debatable. We pissed off China, that's all. TS.

tincansailor wrote:, damaged trade with Mexico,


Uhm, good?

tincansailor wrote:weakened our leadership of NATO


By telling them to carry their weight? If they want to cry over that I'd say good riddance. (We both know their pols may kick and scream but they'd rather be with us than with Tsar Putina.)

tincansailor wrote:and our president is a laughing stock among our democratic allies.


Their media perhaps. Again, good. If European media hates Trump he must be doing something right. They loved Obama as if he walked on water and we saw what a useless puke he turned out to be.

tincansailor wrote:This afternoon he may leave the United States isolated on clean energy technology,


If ALL he did was keep the US out of the Paris fiasco that would be reason enough for me to vote for him.

tincansailor wrote:standing proudly with Nicaragua, and Syria against every other country on the planet. His commitment to America's 70,000 coal miners is rock solid. Perhaps he thinks America will ride into the future on a coal fired steam locomotive?


Oh please. :roll: Jesus, you come across as the worst type of SJW drama queen. Torching our economy in the name of "green" would be stupidity of the highest order.

tincansailor wrote:Our best hope is that The Special Consul investigation will lead to an early exit from the White House. I don't see how we make it though another 45 months of this. This administration has the same sinking feeling of Nixon's in early 1974. What ever happens it's not going to be pretty.


Again, drama queen. He's going to win in 2020 as well so it sounds like you should stock up on valium.
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by juretrn » 01 Jun 2017, 17:27

No more politics. Please.
This thread is about the silliness of a certain blogger.
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by blindpilot » 01 Jun 2017, 17:53

juretrn wrote:No more politics. Please.
This thread is about the silliness of a certain blogger.


Concur, Both posters and mini thread reported.
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by tincansailor » 01 Jun 2017, 18:39

sferrin wrote:
tincansailor wrote:No she was a terrible candidate, but she wouldn't have damaged our position in the world.


She'd have been OWNED by those in other countries via the payoffs to The Clinton Foundation she'd have had to make good on. Not sure how you think that would be better than our perceived "damaged" position.

Yes she is corrupt. So you think it's better to be owned by the Russians?

tincansailor wrote:In four months we've given up our economic leadership in the Pacific


Debatable. We pissed off China, that's all. TS.

We didn't piss off China. They were glad we dropped out of Trans Pacific. China will now have more influence writing the rules for trade in the region.

tincansailor wrote:, damaged trade with Mexico,


Uhm, good?

Tell that to the mid-west farmers. Mexico is turning to South America to supply it's corn.

tincansailor wrote:weakened our leadership of NATO


By telling them to carry their weight? If they want to cry over that I'd say good riddance. (We both know their pols may kick and scream but they'd rather be with us than with Tsar Putina.)

It's not that he told them to spend 2% of GDP on defense. We've been saying that for years. The rising threat of Putin's Russia would have made that correction. It was the failure to commit to Article 5. He convinced both the Germans and the French that our commitment to NATO is now a trans actual arrangement. God knows what happened in those closed door meetings to make the leaders of Europe say they can no longer depend on the United States. Leaders of Western country's tend to understate disputes. what they said was an earthquake.

tincansailor wrote:and our president is a laughing stock among our democratic allies.


Their media perhaps. Again, good. If European media hates Trump he must be doing something right. They loved Obama as if he walked on water and we saw what a useless puke he turned out to be.

It may be comforting to cast European opinion in the left right spectrum of American politics, and dismiss it as left wing whining, but it's not. Contempt for Trump is the overwhelming popular opinion in Western Europe. In Eastern Europe he's more popular, but those are the very people he who need NATO, and he's not committed to defend them. I agree Obama was a waste, but you can't hold the opinions of hundreds of millions people in democratic country's in contempt. You may think they have no choice but to fall in line behind us but you would be wrong. If the center can't hold who knows where everyone will be when it's over. The whole purpose of NATO was to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down. What's it's mission now?

tincansailor wrote:This afternoon he may leave the United States isolated on clean energy technology,


If ALL he did was keep the US out of the Paris fiasco that would be reason enough for me to vote for him.

tincansailor wrote:standing proudly with Nicaragua, and Syria against every other country on the planet. His commitment to America's 70,000 coal miners is rock solid. Perhaps he thinks America will ride into the future on a coal fired steam locomotive?


Oh please. :roll: Jesus, you come across as the worst type of SJW drama queen. Torching our economy in the name of "green" would be stupidity of the highest order.

tincansailor wrote:Our best hope is that The Special Consul investigation will lead to an early exit from the White House. I don't see how we make it though another 45 months of this. This administration has the same sinking feeling of Nixon's in early 1974. What ever happens it's not going to be pretty.


Again, drama queen. He's going to win in 2020 as well so it sounds like you should stock up on valium.


The worlds climate was never stable. Climate change is more a political then an environmental issue, but again you can't hold the whole world in contempt. Like it or not clean energy, including American natural gas will drive the economy of the future. That's why even the oil companies are urging Trump to stay in the treaty. Talk about a drama queen? Every environmental advancement in the last 50 years was said to cripple our economy. Do you still want acid rain, and lead in gasoline?

As for the special Consul it's amazing that no one has any memory of meeting anyone from Russia. They all left their security clearance forms blank when it came to Russian contacts. Was it draining the swamp to hire an NSA who was an un- registered paid lobbyist of both Russia, and Turkey? Was it an innocent act to ask the FBI Director to stop an investigation that touched upon his own activities? Is it of no interest that the probe just hired the top man in the DOJ on financial crimes to join the team? What do you make of the decision to give back the two Russian estates in Maryland, and NY the FSB was using for spying, and Obama shutdown; the very event that started off the Flynn affair?

No administration in the last century has destroyed it's credibility so fast. It's impossible to keep up with all the lying, and dissembling. Leaking is a result of a badly run administration, not the cause of it. Trump isn't even bothering to fill the under secretary positions in the executive branch. We're not appointing ambassadors. Not a single piece of major legislation has been passed. We voted for a master of chaos, and chaos is what we got. What a deal, an ignorant, bigoted, narcissist, who is an incompetent liar. On top of that he's as greedy, and corrupt as Hilary. And this is your guy for 2020?


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by blindpilot » 01 Jun 2017, 19:14

Tincan please take this to Huffington Post or Brietbart.

It is not welcome here. And you have destroyed your own credibility here in the last few posts, faster than any poster I've seen. I will not be listening to any enlightened post about the F-35 you might post forward, because you chose to change the forum. What a jerk.

Moderators Please shut this crap down!
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by SpudmanWP » 01 Jun 2017, 19:43

Someone on another thread pointed me to the Federal Procurement Data System which post details on actual contracts.

https://www.fpds.gov/fpdsng_cms/index.php/en/

Plugging in the contract numbers for Lot 9 Airframes & Engines comes up with a the following.

From what I have seen so far the items do not describe what is covered or where the money is coming from. Just a quick 1-2 line item to describe the item. One nice thing is that it also include cost savings adjustments.

The best thing about it is that you can download the entire search as a CSV.

All you need to do is download the results as a CSV and add up the total (column 10)... $6.8billion (which includes spares). Doing the same search for the engine contract for Lot9 (N0001914C0004) comes up with $1.5 billion.

Huh. That seems to be a lot less than DA's total of $11,896,179,273.

Kind of blows the DA "analysis" of skyrocketing costs out of the water and it only took me 5 minutes.

Here are the direct searches

Airframe (N0001914C0002)
https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/fpdsportal?indexName=awardfull&templateName=1.4.4&s=FPDSNG.COM&q=N0001914C0002&x=0&y=0
Downlaod as CSV https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/fpdsportal?s=FPDSNG.COM&indexName=awardfull&templateName=CSV&q=N0001914C0002&renderer=jsp&length=68


Engine (N0001914C0004)
https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/fpdsportal?indexName=awardfull&templateName=1.4.4&s=FPDSNG.COM&q=N0001914C0004&x=0&y=0
Downlaod as CSV https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/fpdsportal?s=FPDSNG.COM&indexName=awardfull&templateName=CSV&q=N0001914C0004&renderer=jsp&length=68


omg... I just realized that the $1.6 billion that he added up on top of the Lot 9 costs for upgrades & retrofits... DON'T MENTION LOT 9 AT ALL... ANYWHERE.. They all belong to a totally different contract number "N00019-14-G-0020".
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by popcorn » 01 Jun 2017, 22:24

There is a "Trump Thread" for precisely this kind of discourse.
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by XanderCrews » 01 Jun 2017, 23:53

tincansailor wrote:
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Brilliant, this explains the whole Trump phenomenon. Everything was going to be so simple, and easy to solve. Everyone who had been running the government for the last 50 years was just stupid. Now after only 4 months he's done what Russia hasn't been able to do in 70 years, drive a wedge between the United States and Europe. Just brilliant.


All of your posts here show a real lack of historical knowledge. Your alternative history isn't much better either. Go away
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by XanderCrews » 02 Jun 2017, 00:07

sferrin wrote:Apparently the guy over at defense-aerospace is off his meds and has gone full retard:

"EDITOR’S NOTE: To balance what is stated above, it should be noted that the F-35 is also an attempt by the United States to destroy Europe’s combat aircraft industry.

It is also an attempt to control, thanks to the F-35’s Autonomic Logistic Information System (ALIS), the operations of allied F-35s, any of which can be grounded through ALIS.

Finally, it also impinges on the national sovereignty of F-35 operators, none of which – with the notable and unacceptable exception of Israel, which is not even a program partner – can access the F-35’s software source codes nor undertake major overhaul operations or modifications on their own."



LOL is Italy no longer in Europe? where did it move to? last I check they actually assembled F-35s there, and there are overhaul facilities all over F-35 partner nations.

As for the magic ALIS button that renders all F-35s grounded at the behest of the US, prove it DA. :D

tincansailor wrote:
Brilliant, this explains the whole Trump phenomenon. Everything was going to be so simple, and easy to solve. Everyone who had been running the government for the last 50 years was just stupid. Now after only 4 months he's done what Russia hasn't been able to do in 70 years, drive a wedge between the United States and Europe. Just brilliant.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/ ... rack-obama

All of your posts here show a real lack of historical knowledge. Your alternative history isn't much better either. Go away.


Bad Geography all around too. Italy no longer a part Europe, Eastern Europe no longer Europe. Ukraine Not Europe. France leaving NATO, not Europe. This is incredible. My geography teacher must have worked for Defense Aerospace

Apparently "Europe"= Germany? There is a lot of stupid in this thread all around.
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by XanderCrews » 02 Jun 2017, 02:59

Critics: ALIS doesn't work! They are using work arounds to fly!!!

Also critics: F-35 cant fly without ALIS!
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