Commander Naval Air Forces wants more F/A-18s

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Unread post16 Jun 2017, 04:43

Nepotism and other crony forms of politics can skew candidates from those that survive best through rigorous training to a population that best fits the social-political landscape. Someone's kid probably failed some forms of testing and suddenly that method became improper. It wasn't improper for anything save it ran a candidate out that someone really wanted in. The political landscape across the services has changed dramatically about the same time all these problems with OBOGS and hypoxia blossomed.
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Unread post16 Jun 2017, 09:46

Posted first in the udder thred but posted here also becauz already mentioned T-45C/BOING! stuff OBOGaLOGs here.
US Navy seeks next-generation oxygen system for T-45s
15 Jun 2017 Leigh Giangreco

"The US Navy and industry will pursue a next-generation on board oxygen generator system (OBOGS) while the service implements fixes to mitigate persistent oxygen and pressurization issues on its Boeing/BAE Systems T-45 trainers and Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornets....

...In parallel with ongoing mitigation efforts, industry will install breathing air pressure warning for aircraft fitted with the solid state oxygen monitor (CRU-123) this month and develop a next-generation OBOGS known as GGU-25.

T-45’s current OBOGS is made up of Cobham’s oxygen concentrator (GGU-7), an oxygen monitor (CRU-99) and an aircrew-worn breathing air regulator (CRU- 103).

The CRU-123 is a digital upgrade to the current CRU-99 and will be able to deliver information on both temperature and oxygen pressure to pilots, Moran says. Cobham is looking at the redesigned OBOGS as a potential replacement for the legacy system if the navy’s mitigation efforts do not work, he adds. The effort also includes adding a larger capacity emergency oxygen system on the T-45 to eliminate the current way the navy uses on board oxygen today....

...Meanwhile, the Navy is sharing its findings on hypoxia issues with the US Air Force, which recently experienced oxygen problems on Lockheed Martin F-35As at Luke Air Force Base, Arizona. The Defense Department has asked the navy for information on the hypoxia study and will determine whether the F-35 effort should merit an independent or can follow on the navy’s effort, Moran says."

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -4-438277/
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Unread post16 Jun 2017, 19:12

COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE T-45 AND FA-18 PHYSIOLOGICAL EPISODES [REPEATED HERE for Good Reason]
10 Jun 2017 USN

"EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
This Comprehensive Review (CR) examined the facts, circumstances and processes surrounding the recent Physiological Episodes (PEs) involving T-45 and FA-18 aircrew, including how these issues have been addressed...."

Source: http://www.navy.mil/local/pes/Comprehen ... w%20PE.pdf (6.1Mb)
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Unread post17 Jun 2017, 21:29

The Navy is Issuing Every F/A-18 Pilot A Garmin Watch. Here's Why. [ALWAYS BEST TO READ IT ALL AT URL]
16 Jun 2017 Hope Hodge Seck

"The newest weapon in the Navy's fight to prevent physical episodes that endanger fighter pilots in the cockpit is an off-the-shelf watch that can measure air pressure and altitude.

Military.com has learned that the Navy plans to equip every pilot who flies an F/A-18 Hornet or E/A-18G Growler a Garmin Fenix 3 watch, a sleek wrist-wearable device that retails for around $450. Navy Air Forces Commander Vice Adm. Mike Shoemaker released a message to the force in January announcing that he had authorized the devices for deploying strike fighter squadrons 34 and 37, which both fly the older F/A-18C Hornet, rather than the E/F Super Hornet.

Since then, the Navy has ordered enough of the watches for all Hornet and Growler squadrons, Naval Air Forces spokeswoman Cmdr. Jeannie Groeneveld told Military.com Thursday. "We aim to have 100 percent of our fleet squadrons equipped with the watches by August," she said via email....

...While those in the T-45 community have speculated that mysterious hypoxia-like episodes in the cockpit are caused by a contaminant on the aircraft's onboard oxygen generation system, most F/A-18 episodes have been attributed to environmental control system issues and cabin pressurization malfunctions, according to the report.

And that's where the watches may come in handy. The watches, the report notes, were purchased for all F/A-18 crew based in Naval Air Station Oceana, Virginia, because the cabin altimeter gauge of their aircraft was difficult to read due to its size and location, and "its audible warnings are ineffective through the flight envelope."

The watches, once issued to pilots, will alert them when cabin altitude reaches a preset threshold, Navy spokeswoman Lt. Kara Yingling told Military.com. Essentially, the devices could provide pilots with an additional early warning to prevent cabin pressure problems from reaching a crisis point....

...The altimeter watch concept does have its detractors, however. "These watches have not undergone [Naval Air Systems Command] testing for accuracy and dynamic range for this application," the authors of the new report warn. "NAVAIR engineers expressed concern these watches could provide a false sense of security."

Navy officials continue to look for ways to solve the problem of physiological episodes -- an issue that has claimed the lives of four Hornet pilots over the course of decades, according to recently released data.

Vice Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Bill Moran, who ordered the recent review, told reporters Thursday that a slew of efforts were still underway to detect existing problems and to ensure that onboard oxygen generation systems were providing pilots with clean, dry, non-contaminated air. If all else fails, the Navy may order aircraft to be equipped across the board with a new, next-generation onboard oxygen generation system, Moran said.

We have been dealing with hypoxic events in naval aviation for as long as we've had high-performance jets," Moran said. "What we're seeing, though, is a trend in the wrong direction.""

Source: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017 ... s-why.html
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Unread post18 Jun 2017, 03:01

Over the years I have given up my 'pilot' faskination with watches. RAN FAA had a good reliable easy to read large watch face & that was all that was needed then in cockpit - not even a stopwatch. Anyway today the range of watches - 'mazin'.

fēnix® 3 HR (more expensive at $550 but more likely given modes)
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/545480 OR https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/160512
"...The built-in altimeter provides elevation data to accurately monitor ascent and descent..."

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Unread post18 Jun 2017, 20:22

Military.com has learned that the Navy plans to equip every pilot who flies an F/A-18 Hornet or E/A-18G Growler a Garmin Fenix 3 watch, a sleek wrist-wearable device that retails for around $450.


Why not just equip each aircraft with the watch(es) and an adjustable wrist band to fit any/all pilots/NFOs?

The plane captain could make sure it/they were hung on the boarding ladders prior to pilot/crew arrival at the jet....

....pilot/crew would still be responsible for donning them properly of course. :doh:

"...The built-in altimeter provides elevation data to accurately monitor ascent and descent..."


So now it's the fault of 'inaccurately' monitored aircraft indicating systems. What a stellar fix!

What BS..... :bang:
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Unread post18 Jun 2017, 22:23

You used to be able to recognize a 'fighter pilot' by his big watch. Now.....

.....you'll be able to tell by the watch 'chime' when his/her three minute egg is done or a particular cabin altitude has been reached.
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Unread post18 Jun 2017, 22:25

First US kill since Kosovo that I'm aware of.......brought to you by the Super Hornet.....

https://www.rt.com/news/392941-us-led-c ... ian-plane/
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Unread post18 Jun 2017, 23:40

Seriously thinking of getting one of these Garmin watch, 320€ here in Italy. Not even THAT expensive. :drool: :drool:
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Unread post19 Jun 2017, 00:47

Possibly the USN special will have a custom 'ringtone/altitude alert' (credit the "Police")........

"Every move you make, every breath I take, I'll be watching you."
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Unread post19 Jun 2017, 01:31

The Garmin increased the combat record in one day.

Imagine if they had used Polar, Golfbuddy, Suuntu, or TomTom. The batteries would have been dead before takeoff. Seriously, the model they chose is a good survival gear addition to their kit. They just won't be ordering enough to really afford to make a custom version for the military.
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Unread post19 Jun 2017, 02:29

Was the pilot wearing is watch when he got that kill in syria? Maybe they should make it standard issue for all pilots for luck.
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Unread post19 Jun 2017, 09:34

All Shornet USN Aircraft Aircrew will be wearing the fēnix. Meanwhile BOING! CEO is worried - somebody better be....
Hypoxia Worries ‘Top Issue’ For Boeing Defense CEO; Cobham Tech Unveiled
18 Jun 2017 Colin Clark

"PARIS: Boeing Defense’s new CEO, Leanne Caret, told me this afternoon that investigating suspected hypoxia cases is “a top priority for Boeing,” and she is receiving weekly briefings on the issue....

...Caret says Boeing is “really focused on a root cause” and is taking a rigorous systemic approach to study the issue. They’ve brought in medical personnel and others — whom she wouldn’t describe in detail except as experts — to advise the company. She really started getting involved in June last year....

...Leonard [Brig. Gen. Brook Leonard, pilot instructor at Luke and commander of the 56th Fighter Wing] said there was a specific altitude at which the symptoms manifested themselves in the F-35A but he was not willing to say what it was to avoid tilting the investigation one way or another. To make sure the pilot community knows what’s happening and has confidence in how the Air Force is handling the issue, Leonard said they held a town hall meeting for pilots’ spouses.

He said one of the things the Air Force is considering is monitoring pilot’s blood oxygen levels in flight so they can combined that with the “exquisite data” already available about the plane’s performance. That might allow the service to make decisions with greater confidence.

Also, Leonard did not sound very impressed with the F-35’s On Board Oxygen Generation System (OBOGS), which skims air off the engine intake — an unlimited supply as long as the aircraft keeps flying — then purifies, cools and concentrates it for the pilots to breathe.

“We do think the OBOGS system is not as robust as it could be, but it does meet the minimum standard,” he said, without elaborating.

Meanwhile, at the Paris Air Show, Cobham will be unveiling a new testing system tomorrow for these so-called physiological events.

They’ve already delivered the first Inhalation Gas Sensor to the Air Force School of Aerospace Medicine, the company says in a release. It’s the first part of a two-stage system that will include an exhalation sensor block. They will capture environmental, oxygen system performance, and pilot physiological data “to help discern root cause of debilitating physiological events that continue to plague aircrew safety and mission readiness.”

“To unravel the mystery of root cause, we will start by creating a comprehensive mosaic of information that will simultaneously zero in on how the oxygen source equipment is performing, what the cockpit environmental conditions are around the pilot, and monitor the pilot’s physiological data captured in exhaled breath. This data will then be analyzed for correlations to physiological episodes and hypoxia-like symptoms that may have occurred during flight to ultimately help determine root cause,” Stuart Buckley, VP for business development and sales at Cobham Mission Systems, says in a statement. Perhaps this is the system Leonard mentioned, but I’m not sure.

The F-35 Joint Program Office is leading the investigation into the root causes of the suspected hypoxia incidents and is supporting the folks at Luke...."

Source: http://breakingdefense.com/2017/06/hypo ... -unveiled/
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Unread post20 Jun 2017, 02:43

HAMMER TIME (fēnix) - CAN'T TOUCH THIS....
https://news.usni.org/2017/06/19/kremli ... an-fighter

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Unread post20 Jun 2017, 14:24

35_aoa wrote:First US kill since Kosovo that I'm aware of.......brought to you by the Super Hornet.....

https://www.rt.com/news/392941-us-led-c ... ian-plane/


Saw that in the news. Any word on whether it was a Sidewinder, slammer, or guns? If it was "immediate", I'm guessing it was an AIM-120. Slightly curious it wasn't a Raptor, but then again, I have no idea how the planes are deployed, and am (also) guessing the Super Hornet was closest aircraft at the time (right place at the right time). Good on da pilot...
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