Dutch F-35 OT going home.

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Unread post20 Jun 2016, 06:48

a few of the pics i have found on flikr and other places on the web since the show.

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Unread post23 Jun 2016, 19:39

Crossing the Pond [EIGHT PAGE PDF OF ENTIRE ARTICLE ATTACHED]
July 2016 Riccardo Niccoli & Kees van der Mark; Air International Magazine

"This year’s first transatlantic flight by an F-35 and the recent sovereign deployment of two aircraft to the Netherlands each made history. Both events are significant to the F-35 programme....

...DUTCH F-35 FACTS
After years of political debate, on November 6, 2013, the Dutch Parliament finally approved the acquisition of F-35As to replace Royal Netherlands Air Force F-16s. By that time the Royal Netherlands Air Force had already taken delivery of two F-35As – ordered in 2009 and 2011 – to enable participation in the multinational Operational Test and Evaluation programme at Edwards Air Force Base between 2015 and 2019. Initial plans foresaw up to 85 entering air force service. For political reasons, the budget available was limited to €4.5 billion, allowing acquisition of at least 37 F-35s including the two already in service. Deliveries to the operational units is planned for 2019- 2023, with the initial six going to Luke Air Force Base in 2019 for pilot training and the remaining 29 – which will be built at Cameri, Italy – to 322 Tactical Training, Evaluation and Standardisation (TACTES) Squadron at Leeuwarden (from late 2019), followed by 312 and 313 Squadrons at Volkel (from late 2021). The six aircraft at Luke will be joined by the two aircraft currently based at Edwards in 2019. When initial conversion of Royal Netherlands Air Force F-16 pilots to the F-35 is completed in 2023, the number of US-based F-35s will be reduced to five. Current plans foresee retirement of the last of the 61 F-16s remaining in service by 2024....

...Not One but Two
Col De Smit said: “We initially planned to come over with a single jet only, but due to the attention this deployment got in the press and the resulting political pressure, we needed to be sure the perception flights would go ahead, even if an aircraft broke down. So we decided to bring the second aircraft as well. Originally AN-01 was due to come over while AN-02 was in the depot for scheduled modification. But due to a change in the schedule, AN-02 was also available.” Some sources stated that AN-02 was not allowed to go outside the United States due to specific test equipment installed. “It is not an issue,” according to Col De Smit: “AN-02 does not have the complete instrumentation package fitted at the moment, and while in the Netherlands both aircraft operated from shelters in the sealed-off QRA [Quick Reaction Alert] compound at Leeuwarden, which is subject to additional protection measures.”...

...In accordance with the deployment plan, the two Dutch F-35s made the four-and-a-half- hour flight from Edwards to Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Maryland, on May 21. Both KDC-10s provided tanker support and passenger transportation for the majority of the personnel involved in the deployment. The two aircraft took off from the Maryland super base at 07:10hrs (13:10hrs Central European Time) for the 8.1-hour flight to Leeuwarden. A C-17A Globemaster III from the European Heavy Airlift Wing at Papa Air Base, Hungary, followed the fighters across the Atlantic packed with some 38.5 tons of support equipment and spare parts. According to Col de Smit, take-off from Patuxent River was delayed by 40 minutes due to air traffic control issues, a delay further compounded by the lack of a tail wind over the Atlantic. Consequently, the historic arrival in the Netherlands was delayed by about hour. Once in Scottish air space, the two F-35s were joined by 334 Squadron’s Gulfstream IV,...

...Perception Flights
The F-35 perception ights gave people living in the vicinity of Leeuwarden and Volkel Air Bases the chance to give feedback on how they experienced the sound generated by the F-35A and the F-16: sound was measured at five different locations around each air base during the same flights. Both the survey among residents and the measurements were carried out by the Netherlands Aerospace Centre or NLR.

Lt Col Frank den Edel, head of the Royal Netherlands Air Force F-35 Transition Team said: “During these flights, both the F-35 and the F-16 flew seven different take-off and landing profiles, including VFR [visual flight rules] an IFR [instrument flight rules] approaches, using both ends of the runway. These profiles represent 95% of the daily flight manoeuvres near the air bases. Although normal operations would not necessitate the F-35 to use its afterburner, we included burner take-offs at the request of the residents.” After a 24-hour delay caused by low clouds – which made it impossible to fly all profiles as planned – the perception flights were carried out on May 26. Two flights were made at each of the two air bases: one in the afternoon and another in the early evening, to allow as many people as possible to participate in the survey.

After taking off from Leeuwarden at 14:30hrs, Lt Col Laurens-Jan Vijge – who is the commander of Edwards-based 323 Test and Evaluation Squadron – first flew F-35A F-002/OT (call sign Archer 01) to Volkel to fly the profiles, together with F-16AM J-511. Both aircraft landed at Volkel for a hot pit refuelling, before taking off again. After performing similar profiles at Leeuwarden, both aircraft landed there shortly after 17:00hrs. The F-35A received another hot pit refuelling before taking off for the third time at 17:30hrs, now with F-16BM J-065 following a few minutes behind. Once the profiles were complete at Volkel, both aircraft returned to Leeuwarden without refuelling, and after performing approaches landed again around 19:20hrs. Afterburner was used during all three take-offs.

The first results of the survey and measurements were made public by the Royal Netherlands Air Force and NLR the next day. Differences in the sound of the F-16 and F-35 perceived by the 1,193 survey participants were small, which was consistent with the measurements. In most cases the maximum peak sound level generated by the F-35 was no more than 3 dB(A) higher than that of the F-16. In some circumstances, the F-16 was noisier than the F-35.

Busy Weeks
Measurements taken in the hardened aircraft shelter as part of the OT&E commenced on May 24 and lasted until May 27.

Col de Smit said: “A concrete shelter creates an environment that is very different from a flight line or sun shelter. Aspects looked at included vibration and pollution levels. For this purpose, dozens of sensors were applied to AN-01.”

Once the HAS testing was complete, AN- 01 had to be stripped of the sensors and its condition assessed. The aircraft was ready to fly again by June 2...."

Source: Air International Magazine July 2016 Vol.91 No.1
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Unread post07 Jul 2016, 06:41

DUTCH PIONEERS [SIX Page PDF of article attached]
August 2016 Frank Crébas/Bluelife Aviation

"...Display debut
Another milestone was the Lightning II’s international airshow debut. Initially, one aircraft was set to take part in the static display at Leeuwarden, but the team of hard-working maintainers made participation in the flying program possible. Both F-35s took to the skies, joining 10 F-16s during the spectacular air power demo. As part of this, the F-35s made passes at Mach 0.97 with some spectacular results...."

PHOTO: "Like a bat out of hell — the moist air at the Leeuwarden show condenses into a shockwave as the F-35 nears the sound barrier. ‘This is how we roll’, commented Maj Ian ‘Gladys’ Knight, the lead pilot for the demonstration."


Source: Combat Aircraft Monthly August 2016
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Unread post07 Jul 2016, 06:45

And those passes were on dry power. :shock:
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Unread post07 Jul 2016, 14:54

There is a photo of one of the jets in the air with the WBDs open. That's a new one for me. Don't see that very often at all.
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Unread post11 Jul 2016, 03:16

Bringing Home 1st RNLAF F-35 Danny Reijnen; Spotters No.16 eMagazine 6 page PDF attached
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Unread post06 Jul 2017, 11:06

Holland is now talking about increasing their order, up to 60 jets:

thttp://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/285 ... eer__.html

Translation:

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... edit-text=
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Unread post06 Jul 2017, 16:10

[sarc]DEATH SPIRALLLLLLLL[/sarc] :doh:
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Unread post07 Jul 2017, 12:48

krorvik wrote:Holland is now talking about increasing their order, up to 60 jets:

thttp://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/285 ... eer__.html

Translation:

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... edit-text=


So like a lot of people were saying all along... Lol

Thanks for update :D
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Unread post07 Jul 2017, 20:49

Not true according to Rob Verkerk, the Commander of the Royal Netherlands Navy.
https://twitter.com/GeneraalVerkerk/sta ... 0925026304

Translation: "Is not true. OZBT / FF / AMBV is about replacing existing capacity according to policy letter 2013 (in the interests of NL), no extension."
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Unread post08 Jul 2017, 10:16

That's interesting. My guess then would be someone's talking loudly about it - hoping to stir up a more solid discussion.

Do you have any information as to where the original newspaper post came from, i.e., sources?

I've always been puzzled by the low number ordered by the RNlAF - 37 seems a bit on the wee side.
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Unread post17 Jul 2017, 20:52

magitsu wrote:Not true according to Rob Verkerk, the Commander of the Royal Netherlands Navy.
https://twitter.com/GeneraalVerkerk/sta ... 0925026304

Translation: "Is not true. OZBT / FF / AMBV is about replacing existing capacity according to policy letter 2013 (in the interests of NL), no extension."

His remarks are only about the Dutch navy:

OZBT = Onderzeeboot (Submarine)
FF = Fregat (Frigate)
AMBV = Mijnenjager (Minesweeper)


The tweet he is reacting too was a reaction itself to the article in the newspaper about increasing the amount of JSF. That tweet mentions that not only the airforce wants more but that ALL the dutch military departments wants more:
https://twitter.com/TekstPast/status/882849857152708608

Translation: "„Airforce wants more JSF’s” - and @dutch_navy more submarines, @army (again) tanks, @military_police more... etc."

So in that regards Rob Verkerk was only responding to the @dutch_navy part and his remarks are not about the JSF.
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Unread post17 Jul 2017, 21:02

krorvik wrote:That's interesting. My guess then would be someone's talking loudly about it - hoping to stir up a more solid discussion.

Do you have any information as to where the original newspaper post came from, i.e., sources?

I've always been puzzled by the low number ordered by the RNlAF - 37 seems a bit on the wee side.

"De Telegraaf" is more about gossip and sensations than a real newspaper. Screaming headlines with little to no fact-checking is what they do best.

There is not much to find about this in other Dutch news sources.
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Unread post17 Jul 2017, 21:20

That's nice to know botsing - thanks :)
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Unread post02 Nov 2017, 16:09

Photo from Combat Aircraft Dec 2017 Vol18 No12
"LIGHTNING DOWN LOW
An F-35A Lightning II of the Royal Netherlands Air Force’s 323 Test and Evaluation Squadron screams along at low altitude during a mission from Edwards AFB, California. The squadron currently works alongside international partners in the F-35 operational test and evaluation program. Frank Crébas/Bluelife Aviation"
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