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Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 23 Aug 2015, 20:06
by spazsinbad
Heheh. We are 'happy little Vegemites' in OzLand


Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 23 Aug 2015, 21:30
by guy@rdaf.dk
[quote="spazsinbad"]Heheh. We are 'happy little Vegemites' in OzLand

At least Vegemite is made out of beer :thumb:

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 23 Aug 2015, 21:54
by spazsinbad
:devil: SO THAT IS MY PROBLEM!? :doh: :mrgreen: WedgieMite is Wuvverwee... :drool: :shock: :roll: HOPS eh. 8)

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 24 Aug 2015, 12:21
by mk82
Xandercrews: " hats off to Mk82 who spotted the very bizarre contradictions early on"

Thanks Xandercrews :mrgreen: . The contradictions were hilarious in some ways :mrgreen: !

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 24 Aug 2015, 18:35
by archeman
arrow-nautics wrote:
guy@rdaf.dk wrote:No!!! Yours is chewing frikadellen and croquetten.....
Guy@rdaf.dk, don't take it too personally. We Canuckleheads get the razzing too, what with our clubbing of seals, eating whale blubber & poutine munching :devil:



I'm OK with all of it....except that poutine part. Unforgivable. :wink:

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 01 Sep 2015, 01:25
by m
Will the Danes go the F18 or the Typhoon?
Reasons why not:
1. They are in the JSF project. Leaving the project would mean loosing what has been invested by the Danes.
This has been invested by the Dutch. Leaving will be more expensive then staying in.

2. Studies from some years ago by the Danes mention the importance of Norwegian and Dutch decisions.
Cooperation with these partners, as with the EPAF F16, is highly important for the Danes, concerning operational costs, training, spares, weapons, updateas etc. etc.

3. Flying the F18, as the only Defence Force in Europe, is in no way posssible for the Danes.
As well a reason why the Gripen is not a jet type for the Danes. The Danes do pretty well on missions as for instance now in Iraq. In fact they flew even a little more airstrikes than Austalia did (total airstrikes, till aug 20).

Flying with a Gripen means no cooperation and assistance from other users, in particulair the US. Groundequipment, spares etc.
With the Swedes on a mission? Ones on a mission, Lybia, reconnaisance. After some time the Swedish Airforce came into trouble. It appeared hardly possible to continue such a mission.

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 04 Nov 2015, 00:46
by tritonprime
"Pratt & Whitney, Multicut sign agreement for F135 components"
Precision component manufacturer located in Vildjberg, Denmark, to manufacture engine components for F-35 aircraft.
November 3, 2015 Manufacturing Group

Source:
https://www.onlineamd.com/article/pratt ... nts-110315

Vildjberg, Denmark – Pratt & Whitney, a United Technologies Corp. company, has awarded a contract to Multicut A/S, a precision component manufacturer located in Vildjberg, Denmark, to manufacture F135 engine components. The F135 engine is the propulsion system for the fifth generation F-35 Lightning II aircraft.

This 10-year long term procurement agreement signals the beginning of a relationship between Pratt & Whitney and Multicut and positions Multicut well for follow-on F135 opportunities of increasing value.

"This award reaffirms Pratt & Whitney's commitment to F135 engine industrial participation in Denmark," said Bennett Croswell, president, Pratt & Whitney Military Engines. "Multicut competed globally and was selected as the best value supplier of these engine components, and will play a valuable role in our global supply chain for the F135 engine."

"We are delighted to have earned the trust of Pratt & Whitney to manufacture and deliver these key components for the F135 engine," said Lars Rasmussen, chief executive officer, Multicut Global. "Our business is focused on delivering high-quality products at competitive prices. Our contribution to the F135 engine helps ensure jobs and technology know-how remain an essential part of our local industry and a key support to the needs of Danish defense."

Should it be selected, the F-35 will replace Denmark's aging F-16 aircraft with an affordable, sustainable, and highly capable fifth-generation aircraft. The F-35 program includes partners from nine countries – Australia, Italy, Canada, Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Turkey, United Kingdom, and United States – as well as three foreign military sales customers – Israel, Japan, and South Korea

Multicut A/S has a modern factory delivering complex machined parts and subassemblies. It uses state-of-the-art production equipment in its lean manufacturing facility – including 9-axis mill-turn machine tools, as well as 5-axis vertical and 4-axis horizontal computer numerical controlled machines networked with robotic material handling systems.
Source: Pratt & Whitney

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 14 Nov 2015, 11:21
by popcorn
More carrots for Multicut.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Securi ... 447437846/

Danish firm to produce aluminum parts for F-35
VILDBJERG, Denmark, Nov. 13 (UPI) -- Multicut A/S of Denmark has been notified by Lockheed Martin that it's to be contracted to make aluminum machined parts for F-35 fighters.

Under the contract to be issued, the Danish company will produce items such as brackets and fittings for the F-35 for an initial period of three years.

"Denmark continues to benefit from participating in the F-35 program, and this contract award with Multicut reaffirms Lockheed Martin's commitment to grow the industrial participation program with Danish companies of all sizes," Jack Crisler, Lockheed Martin F-35 vice president, said at a ceremony at Multicut in Vildbjerg.

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Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2015, 13:41
by spazsinbad
Milestones Close For Denmark And Belgium Fighter Contests
18 Nov 2015 Bill Sweetman

"LONDON—Denmark’s government is expected to recommend the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) in December as the replacement for the F-16, according to industry executives attending the Defense IQ International Fighter Conference....

...The Danish recommendation is not a surprise, European executives say, because the nation was previously a JSF partner and the air force has longstanding ties to the U.S. Air Force. (Saab had previously pulled out of the contest, leaving Eurofighter and the Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet as the only challengers to JSF.) However, it is expected to spark a public debate over the costs and risk associated with the JSF, the number of aircraft that Denmark can afford, and the balance between air-to-ground and air-to-air missions in the future.... [& BillyBobBoy will be there with sparklers]

Source: http://aviationweek.com/defense/milesto ... r-contests

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2015, 15:23
by popcorn
By all means let the Danes do a fair cost comparison F-35 vs Typhoon vs F-18SH if they must...

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2015, 16:52
by selvagor
They can in fact do a fair comparaison with some imaginary number for the F-35. As the F-35 square cost is less than zero, it will be less than any other plane cost !

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2015, 16:57
by SpudmanWP
selvagor wrote:They can in fact do a fair comparaison with some imaginary number for the F-35. As the F-35 square cost is less than zero, it will be less than any other plane cost !



If we used your logic then no plane would ever be improved, developed, etc.

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2015, 21:19
by krorvik
SpudmanWP wrote:
selvagor wrote:They can in fact do a fair comparaison with some imaginary number for the F-35. As the F-35 square cost is less than zero, it will be less than any other plane cost !



If we used your logic then no plane would ever be improved, developed, etc.


Can't fault his imagination though...

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2015, 21:30
by optimist
spazsinbad wrote:
Milestones Close For Denmark And Belgium Fighter Contests
18 Nov 2015 Bill Sweetman

"LONDON—Denmark’s government is expected to recommend the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) in December as the replacement for the F-16, according to industry executives attending the Defense IQ International Fighter Conference....

...The Danish recommendation is not a surprise, European executives say, because the nation was previously a JSF partner and the air force has longstanding ties to the U.S. Air Force. (Saab had previously pulled out of the contest, leaving Eurofighter and the Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet as the only challengers to JSF.) However, it is expected to spark a public debate over the costs and risk associated with the JSF, the number of aircraft that Denmark can afford, and the balance between air-to-ground and air-to-air missions in the future.... [& BillyBobBoy will be there with sparklers]

Source: http://aviationweek.com/defense/milesto ... r-contests

For "don't say anything bad against Boeing, bill' That article is fireworks for the F-35.

Re: Denmark reconsidering JSF?

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2015, 22:16
by tritonprime
"Terma lands contract with BAE Systems potentially worth 1.6 billion kroner"
Co-operation between Danes and Brits on F-35 fighter jet looks set to continue
September 18th, 2015 5:43 pm| by Philip Tees

Source:
http://cphpost.dk/news/business/terma-l ... roner.html

The Danish aerospace company Terma has signed a contract, potentially worth 1.6 billion kroner over the next 23 years, with the British multinational BAE Systems to continue manufacturing components of the F-35 Lightening II aircraft.

The new agreement will extend collaboration between the two companies, whereby Terma delivers advanced composite structural parts for the tails of the aircraft. Paul Burns, the F-35 global procurement and supply chain director at BAE Systems, expressed satisfaction with the companies’ continued co-operation.

“We are delighted to sign this agreement with Terma. We have been working together with Terma for over 10 years and have developed a strong relationship that is delivering real benefits to both companies and the F-35 program,” he said.

“It is through agreements such as this, with organisations like Terma, that will help BAE Systems meet our ‘Blueprint for Affordability’ commitments on the program.”

Vote of confidence
Jens Maaløe, the CEO of Terma, takes the agreement as a vote of confidence.

“It is strong evidence of Terma’s present and future position on the F-35 program and it shows how collaboration can benefit Terma, Danish industry and the F-35 program as a whole,” he said.

“Terma has established a solid and reliable technology base for our future involvement in the program. At present, Terma is preparing for further investment in technology and production facilities,” said Maaløe.

However, parts of the agreement are out of Terma’s direct control and depend on Denmark choosing the F-35 to replace its F-16s. The other candidates are the Eurofighter and the American F-18 Super Hornet.