Finnish DefMin Interest in F-35s NOT Gripens

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magitsu

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Unread post14 Apr 2019, 23:07

No idea yet how the new government will form as the result was historically even. Three top parties snagged roughly 18% each.

The previous Minister of Defense fell out of even the parliament!
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Unread post15 Apr 2019, 00:45

Would someone be kind enough to send me the full Jane's article, in PM please? Thanks.

magitsu wrote:Today it was confirmed that JASSM plays no part in the requirements. Which wasn't surprising given its shelf life of 15 years and no ready integration to any of the competing platforms.

Can you link the source please?

Also, isn't the SDP+Kok coalition the most likely one? Probably not the most result-producing one regarding defence though, especially NATO. I would need a refresher on parties' stance on EU & US cooperation specifically. I believe no one will form one with PS..
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Unread post15 Apr 2019, 01:07

When asked if the missile acquisition is linked or does it also affect future fighter purchases, Keränen answers:

- JASSM missiles have not been set as requirements in the HX project because each candidate has its own offer for far-reaching fire. The integration of new weapons is usually quite expensive, so the integration of the JASSM missile is not set as a threshold requirement.

https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000006066689.html

PS probably isn't the first to get called to dance, but eventually they will if the easiest looking SDP+KOK (maybe also SDP+Greens+Center et al) doesn't work. The problem in that one is that SDP likely wants Left as their wingman, which would be bad for Kok if they don't get one too. Christian and Swedes aren't comparable and the whole lot is too big if the larger than Left Green Party is in the mix.
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Unread post18 Apr 2019, 10:07

Elections for parliament were held on Sunday.

The results aren't majorly surprising, but do signify a major shift. the center-left Social Democratic party barely edged out to become the largest, and they plan on forming a centrist left-right coalition to form a cabinet.

This coalition is to include a number of parties that have in past criticized the H-X program:

On the other hand, inappropriate US pressure on Finnish authorities to purchase the F-35 or F/A-18 Super Hornet combat aircraft rather than one of their European competitors—France’s Rafale, the British-made Eurofighter, or Sweden’s Gripen—could easily backfire. In January, Finland’s outgoing defense minister criticized the Social Democrats, Greens, and Left Alliance for suggesting that the government’s plan to purchase sixty-four of the new multirole fighters—at an estimated cost of $13 billion—should be revisited. The Finns Party reportedly also is interested in reducing the aircraft number.


Source: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/n ... ll-country

The far-right Finns Party has been excluded from coalition talks, however the Social Democrats won and the Greens and Left Alliance are invited. Only the center-right National Coalition has so far not criticized the program, and they too are critical to the cabinet formation period ahead.

I don't expect to see a change to the program, but it's important to know that there's political will among some to change its direction, and that a hiccup could be just around the corner.

Further reading: https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/01 ... -purchase/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Finn ... y_election
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