JASDF may be in the market for more F-35s

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by jessmo111 » 01 Sep 2015, 00:33

slapshot! wrote:Looks like the Pacific is heating up.

Separate note, does the JASDF use AESA radars in their F15Js?



Spaz could the janapese give China much of a fight?
What about in ten years with J20,s and F-35s are flying around?


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by spazsinbad » 01 Sep 2015, 01:35

There is a forum sub section to make claims about this that and the other against F-35s:

F-35 versus XYZ viewforum.php?f=55


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by jessmo111 » 01 Sep 2015, 02:04

Not just the F-35 but surface fleet tacair ect. I guessbim trying
To figure out if just a few F-35s is pissing in the wind like Taiwan's case


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by spazsinbad » 01 Sep 2015, 02:08

Well then piss in the wind and get pissplashed. Look for a repetition of the headline over the next few years. And... what about the other JASDF aircraft? How many Chinese aircraft - will the US come to the aid of Japan via treaty? Sheesh.


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by bullphrog » 01 Sep 2015, 08:24

slapshot! wrote:Looks like the Pacific is heating up.

Separate note, does the JASDF use AESA radars in their F15Js?


I believe it uses the APG-63 v1, they do have it on their AAM-4B MRAAMs that can be used on the F-15J if that counts for anything, and F2s have it


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by XanderCrews » 01 Sep 2015, 14:32

jessmo111 wrote:Not just the F-35 but surface fleet tacair ect. I guessbim trying
To figure out if just a few F-35s is pissing in the wind like Taiwan's case


Google: Battle of Britain.
Choose Crews


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by jessmo111 » 02 Sep 2015, 05:08

Yes Sir,

I am familair with the battle of Britan, But I dont think The Chinese will attempt the hypothetical operation Sea lion anytime soon. I only wish that that SK, Japan, the Philipines, Taiwan, and Vietnam, coudl come together. They would make a formidible force agoanst The Chinese. Back on topic, Im going to predict, that if the Chinese keep pressing, that the Japanese will eventually order a Much larger carrier, or 2, and maybe Used the British QE, as a good example.
2 Or 3 QE sized ships, with a Full complement of escorts and F-35sB would really give the Chinese somthign to worry over.
NOTE SPAZ they have the means to make them CATOBAR even, so being hampered by STOVL, and organic AWAC/Tankers may not be an issue. But Its just my arm chair prediction.


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by thepointblank » 02 Sep 2015, 05:22

The Japanese military as a whole is a highly disciplined, well trained and professional force. The Chinese are no where near the level of professionalism and training the Japanese are at.


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by spazsinbad » 02 Sep 2015, 05:23

'jessmo111' You need to read up more especially SLDinfo website where the co-operation of all F-35 users (allies / treaty partners with the US in the Pacific) will be all of one hive mind in the swarm of F-35s of all types brought to bear to sic 'em rex.

Networking all assets in a wolofpack firing weapons from everywhere sea/air you name it is how it will go. Search for 'wolfpack' for example. Here is but one example: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=21803&p=240570&hilit=wolfpack#p240570


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by madrat » 02 Sep 2015, 05:50

It's not simply sharing target information, it's total asset management from fuel, to ordnance, projected waypoints, etc.


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by jessmo111 » 02 Sep 2015, 06:32

spazsinbad wrote:'jessmo111' You need to read up more especially SLDinfo website where the co-operation of all F-35 users (allies / treaty partners with the US in the Pacific) will be all of one hive mind in the swarm of F-35s of all types brought to bear to sic 'em rex.

Networking all assets in a wolofpack firing weapons from everywhere sea/air you name it is how it will go. Search for 'wolfpack' for example. Here is but one example: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=21803&p=240570&hilit=wolfpack#p240570


I am Familair with SLD, sir. It will be interesting to see if the nations can make connections politically, now that they are stove piped into being on the same page with the F-35. If a country Like SK has F-35s and they pick up incoming ballistic missile targets, or fighters heading twoards and ally or a frienemy like Japan, It would only serve thier best intesests to pass it on. I wonder if the Info is gated at each nations server farm, or is it completely in USA controll. This could be a 2 edged sword. For instance would Turkey pass data to Israel, if there political interests are not served?

Spaz I really wish your Country would spring for carriers, Its the new Pacific fashion.


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by spazsinbad » 02 Sep 2015, 07:16

All the F-35 countries are allies in some fashion. I do not know where your scenario comes from but missiles heading away from North Korea or China will be obvious to a lot more assets than just some F-35s. And apart from China which Asian Pacific country has an aircraft carrier (not forgetting the forward based CVN in Japan)? Perhaps you are thinking of LHDs and Australia has two of them.


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by madrat » 02 Sep 2015, 07:32

Thailand /har har


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by spazsinbad » 02 Sep 2015, 08:30

You seem to know very little about Thailand.


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by jessmo111 » 02 Sep 2015, 08:33

spazsinbad wrote:All the F-35 countries are allies in some fashion. I do not know where your scenario comes from but missiles heading away from North Korea or China will be obvious to a lot more assets than just some F-35s. And apart from China which Asian Pacific country has an aircraft carrier (not forgetting the forward based CVN in Japan)? Perhaps you are thinking of LHDs and Australia has two of them.


Let me rephrase that. I wish You would buy something bigger than an LHD. Something QE sized. with a full complement of
F-35bs or C depending on whats chosen. Japan just launched whats called a AHem.. Helicopter destroyer, I say TOmatoe and you say toMAtoe, but the writing is on the wall. In the next few years Thaland, ( snickers) Russia, Japan The U.S. China, and Australia, will all have some kind of navy asset from which a STOVL, or catapult aircraft can be launched.
Im not saying that all ships are the same, or that they are effecive platforms for this. I would how ever Like the Aussies
To field a real carrier. COME On spaz, a BIg BLOOMINg ship! WITh Aussie markings?! you Know you want one.


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