South Korea resets Fighter Jet bidding

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by arcturus » 02 Apr 2014, 01:24

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He deletes them because I committed the cardinal sin of correcting him a few too many times. :lol: When he started his tough-guy routine and I laughed at him it drove him over the edge. Seriously, check this out:

http://snafu-solomon.blogspot.com/2013/ ... errin.html

How's that for deranged? :lmao: Then I asked him how that worked out for Bain. :P


Entertainingly enough, that is the Snafu post that got me banned. When Sol continued deleting Sferrin's replies I asked if this was his way of controlling the narrative. That pushed the so called Marine over the edge. Ah, memories.


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by XanderCrews » 02 Apr 2014, 03:29

arcturus wrote:
sferrin wrote:
He deletes them because I committed the cardinal sin of correcting him a few too many times. :lol: When he started his tough-guy routine and I laughed at him it drove him over the edge. Seriously, check this out:

http://snafu-solomon.blogspot.com/2013/ ... errin.html

How's that for deranged? :lmao: Then I asked him how that worked out for Bain. :P


Entertainingly enough, that is the Snafu post that got me banned. When Sol continued deleting Sferrin's replies I asked if this was his way of controlling the narrative. That pushed the so called Marine over the edge. Ah, memories.


Its funny you mention that, just today I read some blog post he made about Software and then he rheotircally said "I can't wait for the "supporters" to attempt to refute this info." ...He then proceeded to delete posts. The guy is such an idiot
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by arcturus » 02 Apr 2014, 04:45

XanderCrews wrote:
arcturus wrote:
sferrin wrote:
Its funny you mention that, just today I read some blog post he made about Software and then he rheotircally said "I can't wait for the "supporters" to attempt to refute this info." ...He then proceeded to delete posts. The guy is such an idiot


An oddly self fulfilling prophecy, isn't he? If ignorance is bliss.....


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by spazsinbad » 25 May 2014, 09:47

Korea to test-fly F-35
25 May 2014 Kang Seung-woo

"An evaluation team from the Korean Air Force will test-fly Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II before signing a deal to purchase 40 of the stealth aircraft for its "next-generation" fighter jet, the nation's procurement agency said Sunday.

"The 10-man team will visit the company's plant in Fort Worth, Texas Monday for a two-week test-flight," said an official of the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA).

"We will mainly check to see if anything has changed since the 2012 test-flight." [WOW]

He added that there will be a performance test on the runway at the plant as well....

...As the F-35 will be purchased through government-to-government foreign military sales (FMS), U.S. government officials will participate in the negotiations on behalf of Lockheed Martin.

In March, U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan, Pentagon's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program executive officer, said the cost of an F-35 in 2019 would be somewhere between $80 and $85 million (81 and 87 billion won), when the full-rate production brings economies of scale to international purchasers.

In addition, considering other elements such as armament, logistics and training costs that usually account for some 30 percent of the procurement budget, the price tag is estimated at around 5 trillion won.

DAPA's budget is 7.4 trillion won and is poised to bring down the price in the meeting.... [Then No Worries Chief]

...DAPA plans to sign a letter of acceptance with the U.S. government by July before finalizing the contract by the end of the third quarter."

Source: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/na ... 57819.html


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by gtx » 25 May 2014, 19:18

"We will mainly check to see if anything has changed since the 2012 test-flight."


Sounds like a "junket" to me... :D


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by spazsinbad » 01 Aug 2014, 22:27

F-35 delays raise concern
01 Aug 2014 By Song Sang-ho [Song Sung Blu must be his brudder]

"Concerns are escalating in South Korea over possible delays in the development of the F-35 fighter jet as this could hinder Seoul’s project to deploy 40 of the radar-evading aircraft from 2018-2021.

The U.S-led multinational F-35 development program has recently been in the media spotlight due to a set of accidents, most recently on June 23, when one of the warplanes’ engines caught fire before takeoff.

Apart from the hardware issues, the development of certain software could face delays of up to 14 months, Bloomberg reported, citing a Pentagon report. The software is crucial for operating navigation, communications and targeting systems, the report said.

Amid concerns about the possible delays in the U.S.’ costliest defense program, Seoul’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration said that it would “closely watch the situation.”

“As we haven’t bought any of the F-35 jets under development yet and will purchase them from 2018, we still have some time to watch the situation and wait for solutions to come,” a DAPA official told The Korea Herald, declining to be named.

“We don’t expect any serious problems yet … with respect to our procurement schedule.”..."

Source: http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20140801000547


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by spazsinbad » 09 Sep 2014, 10:15

LONG ARTICLE BEST READ AT SOURCE - only few excerpts below for the flavour of the sauce. :devil:
Fifth-Generation Fighters Will Determine Air Dominance in Future Conflicts
September 2014 Dan Parsons

"In August 2013, South Korea chose Boeing’s F-15SE as its next-generation fighter aircraft over Lockheed Martin’s F-35 and the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Months later, the South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration reversed course in favor of buying fewer of the more capable F-35.

John Pike, Globalsecurity.org think tank director, said the episode is the best endorsement of the joint strike fighter’s fifth-generation technologies, regardless of its problematic development and relatively high cost.

“I think the sovereign answer on the F-35 is South Korea,” Pike told National Defense....

...Fifth-generation fighters bring more to the table than simply stealth. In future conflicts, they will charge ahead and determine which force will achieve air dominance, Pike said. Older fighters, which will still be in U.S. and other nations’ fleets for decades, will then come in and perform “clean-up” missions against enemy positions and air-defense installations, he added. They also will carry sophisticated electronic-attack weaponry designed to counter enemy radar and air defenses in the sort of non-permissive environments that U.S. aircraft have not had to contend in the wars of the past decade....

...Air Force Gen. Mike Hostage, chief of U.S. Air Combat Command, said viewing stealth as the defining characteristic of fifth-generation aircraft is shortsighted.

“When you talk about fifth-generation … stealth is one of the characteristics of it,” Hostage said in July at an Air Force Association meeting in Arlington, Virginia. “I think the most amazing difference between fourth- and fifth-gen is the fusion capability, the ability to take sensors and make the pilot no longer the fusion device. … For me that is the defining characteristic of fifth-generation.”...

...The F-35, while a potent offensive weapon, is also a tool for sensor fusion that links its pilot to a wealth of information. The aircraft can also “talk to” nearly every other platform on the battlefield, Hostage said. Allied fighters are designed with identical, completely interoperable sensing capabilities that will produce unprecedented situational and battlespace awareness, he said.

“The F-35 … has the ability to work cooperatively with other airplanes that, again, nobody else can do. That’s the power of that fleet,” Hostage said. “That’s why I’m so adamant about the fleet that I’ve got to build the F-35.”...

...Though designed to have an extremely low radar signature, the F-35 and F-22 are not invisible, Pike said. That is where existing aircraft like the Growler, which has powerful radar-jamming capabilities, will come into play.

“A little bitty radar in the nose of a fighter might not be able to see an F-35, but a big radar in a bigger airplane or on the ground might be able to see it,” he said. “If you are the loudest thing in the sky because you are an active jammer, it doesn’t make much sense to put that on a stealth aircraft. So the Growler remains useful as a standoff jammer against standoff enemy radar.”...

...All previous generations of fighters have been single-seater jets. The sixth-generation follow-on to the F-35 might break that mold. It will not necessarily have a pilot, and it might not be a fighter jet as that role has been defined in previous generations, Hostage said. He encouraged a development process that begins with the fundamental technologies that will provide leap-ahead combat capabilities and designing a platform around its future role.

“Don’t start into this process thinking … in terms of a platform,” Hostage said. “Be thinking in terms of what is the capability that future technology will bring to us that will allow us to provide air dominance in the future. If that’s a single button on a keyboard that makes all the adversaries fall to the ground, I’m OK with that.”

Source: http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/ ... licts.aspx


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by spazsinbad » 24 Sep 2014, 14:39

S Korea to pay USD 7 bn for 40 F-35A fighter jets
24 Sep 2014

"Seoul, Sep 24 (AFP) South Korea is to pay USD 7 billion for 40 F-35A fighter jets under the terms of a deal with Lockheed Martin announced today by the state arms procurer...."

Source: http://www.ptinews.com/news/5176738_S-K ... jets-.html

Korea finalizes plan to buy F-35s for W7.3 tril.
24 Sep 2014 Jun Ji-hye

"The defense acquisition agency has finalized a plan to purchase 40 Lockheed Martin F-35 stealth fighters as the nation's next-generation fighters (F-X) with a total budget of 7.3 trillion won ($7 billion), officials said Wednesday.

The unit cost of each aircraft is 120 billion won.

"The plan is to gradually buy the aircraft, 10 at a time, from 2018 to 2021," said Jung Kwang-sun, director of the aircraft department at the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA).

In return for the purchase, Lockheed Martin agreed to transfer fighter-related technology in 17 areas to Korea in its bid to develop an indigenous fighter, codenamed KF-X, to replace aging F-4 and F-5 jets.

The Defense Acquisition Program Executive Committee, which was presided over by Defense Minister Han Min-koo, approved the plan later Wednesday.

Following the agreement, the government is set to sign letters of agreement sent by the U.S. side. This is expected to be completed by the end of the month, Jung said....

...Initially, Korea planned to introduce 60 high-tech combat planes with a budget of 8.3 trillion won, but the government later said it had decided to buy 40 F-35s first, saying it would decide later when to buy the remaining 20 based on changes in the national security situation. But the main reason was reportedly difficulty in allocating the additional funds.

"We have yet to decide whether we will also choose F-35s when we purchase the remaining 20," said Jung...."

Source: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/na ... 65179.html

South Korea to sign deal this month to buy 40 F-35 jets for $7 billion: sources
24 Sep 2014 (Reporting by Joyce Lee; Editing by Christopher Cushing)

"(Reuters) - South Korea will sign a deal this month to buy 40 Lockheed Martin Corp (LMT.N) F-35 fighter jets for about 7.34 trillion won ($7.06 billion) for delivery in 2018-2021, two people with knowledge of the transaction told Reuters on Wednesday.

South Korea in March became the 10th country to choose F-35 fighter jets,...

...The U.S. government's head of the F-35 program said in an official document to the South Korean government that the engine failure was within the realm of possibility considered during development, one of the people said.

The F-35 program head also said the incident had no effect on the quality, price, delivery date and safety of the jets - a conclusion South Korea is viewing as a sort of guarantee, the person added.

A follow-up contract will be signed to allow basic maintenance of the jets within South Korea, the person said, with South Korea being free to choose the location of more involved maintenance...."

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/ ... P620140924


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by XanderCrews » 24 Sep 2014, 18:18

In before Slowman# telling us this isn't actually happening. :D Sol is too busy drooling about the strike in Syria to give us the low down.


Other than that, Great news!
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by cantaz » 24 Sep 2014, 20:27

I wasn't going to mention his name in case it actually end up summoning him or something.


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by spazsinbad » 25 Sep 2014, 02:46

Republic Of Korea Approves Procurement Of Lockheed Martin F-35A Lightning II
24 Sep 2014 LM PR

"FORT WORTH, Texas, Sept. 24, 2014 – The Republic of Korea finalized its formal selection of the Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] F-35A Lightning II aircraft for its F-X fighter acquisition program, announcing its intent to sign the Letter of Offer and Acceptance (LOA) between the U.S. and Korean governments for 40 F-35A Conventional Take Off and Landing (CTOL) variant jets with initial deliveries beginning in 2018....

...Following a comprehensive evaluation process for its F-X program, the Republic of Korea, which first announced its competitive selection of the F-35 over the 4th Generation Boeing F-15 Silent Eagle and the EADS Eurofighter Typhoon in March this year, now becomes the third Foreign Military Sales country to procure the F-35, joining Israel and Japan who selected the F-35A in 2010 and 2011, respectively...."

Source: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/p ... -f-35.html


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by Corsair1963 » 25 Sep 2014, 06:11

spazsinbad wrote:
Republic Of Korea Approves Procurement Of Lockheed Martin F-35A Lightning II
24 Sep 2014 LM PR

"FORT WORTH, Texas, Sept. 24, 2014 – The Republic of Korea finalized its formal selection of the Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] F-35A Lightning II aircraft for its F-X fighter acquisition program, announcing its intent to sign the Letter of Offer and Acceptance (LOA) between the U.S. and Korean governments for 40 F-35A Conventional Take Off and Landing (CTOL) variant jets with initial deliveries beginning in 2018....

...Following a comprehensive evaluation process for its F-X program, the Republic of Korea, which first announced its competitive selection of the F-35 over the 4th Generation Boeing F-15 Silent Eagle and the EADS Eurofighter Typhoon in March this year, now becomes the third Foreign Military Sales country to procure the F-35, joining Israel and Japan who selected the F-35A in 2010 and 2011, respectively...."

Source: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/p ... -f-35.html



With another order likely to follow in the future! Same could be said for Japan and Israel. Just the tip of the iceberg. :wink:


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by spazsinbad » 19 Mar 2015, 17:44

Lockheed Strikes S. Korean F-35 Offset Deal
19 Mar 2015 Andrew Chuter

"LONDON — When Lockheed Martin said last year it was to use a European-built satellite as part of its offset offering in a $7 billion agreement with South Korea to buy F-35A fighters, the company was short on detail as to exactly what was involved in this unusual arrangement.

That veil of secrecy lifted a little Tuesday, when a seemingly innocuous press release posted on the website of Blenheim Capital announced the British offset experts had set up a subsidiary company in Luxembourg to "purchase, launch and provide satellite communications capacity, initially to the Asia Pacific region."...

...Lockheed agreed to a deal with South Korea for the sale of 40 F-35 combat jets last year. Some 50 percent of the value of the near $7 billion agreement is covered by offset arrangements....

...Entirely by coincidence, military communications capacity in Asia received a further boost earlier this week when the British Ministry of Defence announced it was repositioning one of its Skynet 5 satellites to the Asia Pacific region for the first time.

A ground station is being built in Australia as part of a multimillion pound investment to provide the British with secure communications in the region."


Source: http://www.defensenews.com/story/defens ... /25009451/


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by spazsinbad » 25 Aug 2016, 17:33

Korea F-35A Program Coming Together
25 Aug 2016 Wendell Minnick

"Lockheed Martin has been awarded a $7 million contract for providing the multispectral database for the upcoming delivery to South Korea of 40 F-35A Lightening II [can you believe the spelling & from an aviation correspondent - what a frickin' joke - get with the program pal] stealth fighters with conventional take-off and landing (CTOL) capability.

The contract was awarded Aug. 23 by the Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) under the Foreign Military Sales program. The US Naval Air Systems Command in Maryland will handle the contract.

The 40 F-35A CTOL fighters were released to South Korea in March 2013 for $7.06 billion. Then in May, the DSCA released $793 million of arms in support of the F-35, including 274 AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missiles, 530 Joint Directed Attack Munitions (JDAM), 154 AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles and 530 “Bunker Buster” BLU-109 2000LB Penetrators equipped with JDAM....

...Lockheed will begin deliveries of the F-35A in the 2018-2021 time frame."

Source: http://www.defensenews.com/articles/kor ... g-together


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by sferrin » 25 Aug 2016, 18:56

spazsinbad wrote:
Lockheed Strikes S. Korean F-35 Offset Deal
19 Mar 2015 Andrew Chuter

"LONDON — When Lockheed Martin said last year it was to use a European-built satellite as part of its offset offering in a $7 billion agreement with South Korea to buy F-35A fighters, the company was short on detail as to exactly what was involved in this unusual arrangement.

That veil of secrecy lifted a little Tuesday, when a seemingly innocuous press release posted on the website of Blenheim Capital announced the British offset experts had set up a subsidiary company in Luxembourg to "purchase, launch and provide satellite communications capacity, initially to the Asia Pacific region."...

...Lockheed agreed to a deal with South Korea for the sale of 40 F-35 combat jets last year. Some 50 percent of the value of the near $7 billion agreement is covered by offset arrangements....

...Entirely by coincidence, military communications capacity in Asia received a further boost earlier this week when the British Ministry of Defence announced it was repositioning one of its Skynet 5 satellites to the Asia Pacific region for the first time.

A ground station is being built in Australia as part of a multimillion pound investment to provide the British with secure communications in the region."


Source: http://www.defensenews.com/story/defens ... /25009451/


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