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Unread post15 Mar 2019, 06:19

Interesting article from lowyinstitute

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-inter ... t-purchase
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Unread post15 Mar 2019, 06:44

:devil: Gotta luv lack of proofreading so we cannot blame the author for this Singaporean F-35B variant display top of page:
"F-35B on display at the Singapore airshow in 2018 (Photo: SeongJoon Cho via Getty)"
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Unread post15 Mar 2019, 07:13

If I recall, the B was parked on the right of the raptor.
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Unread post15 Mar 2019, 07:19

8) :devil: Must have been :roll: INVISIBLE :shock: otherwise to the caption maker then. :mrgreen: :doh:
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Unread post15 Mar 2019, 07:45

Its stealthy, not invisible. Nose cone is visible.
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Unread post15 Mar 2019, 09:02

Just proves that the F-35 is stealthier than the Raptor. LOL
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Unread post15 Mar 2019, 09:09

weasel1962 wrote:Its stealthy, not invisible. Nose cone is visible.

So the caption maker should have seen it then?
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Unread post18 Mar 2019, 22:08

popcorn wrote:Just proves that the F-35 is stealthier than the Raptor. LOL


LOL :mrgreen:
“Active stealth” is what the ignorant nay sayers call ECM and pretend like it’s new.
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Unread post22 Oct 2019, 11:03

In typical stealth fashion...last month.

https://www.mfa.gov.sg/Newsroom/Press-S ... nald-Trump

welcomed Singapore’s decision to acquire four F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, with an option for eight more in the future.


Looks like this is already a done deal. Noted this in Sep but wanted to until the FMS notice is out. May have to wait longer.
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Unread post22 Oct 2019, 14:51

Well, this is exciting if not expected.

Malaysian Flankers are just next door, wonder if they'll perform DACT? In any case, the skies above each are set to become a lot more interesting in the coming years!
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Unread post23 Oct 2019, 00:55

The lack of any drama in the Singapore acquisition is refreshing or boring, take your pick. :devil:
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Unread post09 Dec 2019, 09:55

Singapore to establish an F-16/F-15 fighter training detachment on Guam. Singapoe F-15 fighter training with PACAF on Guam started in 2017. Guam is ~2,538nm from Singapore.

https://www.mindef.gov.sg/web/portal/mi ... 07dec19_fs
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Unread post10 Jan 2020, 01:10

Singapore gets the green light to buy F-35s
09 Jan 2020 Valerie Insinna

"WASHINGTON — The U.S. government on Thursday formally approved Singapore to become the next customer of the F-35 joint strike fighter, paving the way for a future sale.

Last year, Singaporean Defense Minister Ng Eng Hen announced that the country would submit a letter of request to the U.S. government to purchase four F-35B short takeoff and landing jets, with the intention of a total of 12 B models.

The U.S. State Department endorsement made Jan. 9 would allow Singapore to move ahead with purchasing those jets, at an estimated cost of $2.75 billion, according to the Defense Security Cooperation Agency.

Also included in the proposed deal are up to 13 Pratt & Whitney F135 engines, unspecified electronic warfare and communications systems, training equipment, and the Autonomic Logistics Information System used for mission planning, maintenance and other logistics functions....

...A contract with Lockheed Martin would make Singapore the 12th country to buy the F-35, following Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Israel, Italy, Japan , Netherlands, Norway, South Korea, the United Kingdom and the United States. Canada, a partner of the F-35 program, has not yet committed to buying jets, while Turkey was booted from the program last summer over its decision to field a Russian S-400 air defense system."

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Unread post10 Jan 2020, 01:46

It took long enough. There seems to be some certificate issues with the dsca site, link below.

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/s ... l-aircraft

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Unread post10 Jan 2020, 02:07

Why the Killer Bees?

I went back a page and refreshed my memory... we had discussed -A vs -B models, and the consensus seemed to be that the additional range of the -A doesn't get Singapore anything, i.e. the range of the -B is sufficient for Singapore's needs. I had suggested the -B gives Singapore more basing options, but someone else replied that the -A can also operate from roads etc. At one point I had inquired about Killer Bee for shipboard use by Singapore, but could swear that I was "schooled" about the size of the Singaporean Navy and that they don't have enough bodies to fully man a "carrier" (i.e. a LHD-style Lightning carrier).

Has the rationale for why the -B model for Singapore been explained?
Take an F-16, stir in A-7, dollop of F-117, gob of F-22, dash of F/A-18, sprinkle with AV-8B, stir well + bake. Whaddya get? F-35.
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