Australian lawmakers confident in F-35's future

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Unread post07 Feb 2017, 06:06

http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/intern ... ow/1649776

"Controversial F-35 to visit Australia at Avalon Air Show"

No word if it'll be a static or flying display, or even technically if this is a real jet or just the to-be-confirmed mock-up they've previously listed on the Avalon list of displays, but it does sound like the former.
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Unread post07 Feb 2017, 06:14

I can't imagine them flying them all the way across the Pacific and NOT doing some kind of flying display.
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Unread post07 Feb 2017, 07:01

Agreed - there is a chance that there won't be time to fulfil the red tape requirements for a flying display, but Australia is supposedly slightly more relaxed when it comes to air show regulations:

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Unread post07 Feb 2017, 07:27

After watching the Super Bug practice the last couple of days it looks to be their best performance yet :mrgreen:
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Unread post07 Feb 2017, 07:35

OH DEAR: "...See it [JSF] as part of the Airshow’s extensive ground display of military aircraft...."

http://www.airshow.com.au/airshow2017/PUBLIC/index.asp
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"The provisional flying display program will be available here from mid-February 2017."

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Unread post07 Feb 2017, 08:15

spazsinbad wrote:OH DEAR: "...See it [JSF] as part of the Airshow’s extensive ground display of military aircraft...."

For a while (months) they've stated that an F-35A mock-up is expected (but to be confirmed) as a ground display; this appears to be separate. We will have to wait for that provisional flying display program to know for sure though.
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Unread post07 Feb 2017, 08:55

From what I've seen they probably will be static unless you are there on Friday when they arrive, surely a missed approach is on the cards. After that they go to Amberley with the Growlers apparently, time for the missus and I to book some holidays.
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Unread post07 Feb 2017, 15:33

Joint Strike Fighter to make Australian Debut at the Australian International Airshow
07 Feb 2017 AFHQ

"...“The Joint Strike Fighter will be joined at the Airshow by Australia’s first EA-18G Growler,” Minister Payne said.

“Together, the F-35A Joint Strike Fighter and the EA-18G Growler represent a potent and technologically advanced air combat and strike capability that is essential to our ability to defend Australia and our national interests.

“Australia is the only country outside the United States operating the EA-18G Growler and its arrival represents a significant leap forward in our capability, introducing a dedicated electronic attack capability for the first time.”

Minister Pyne said this would be one of the most exciting airshows the ADF had organised, representing a significant occasion for defence industry.

“The EA-18G Growler and F-35A Lightning II represent the latest in cutting edge aviation technology, and include some of the very best of Australian industry,” he said....

...The first two F-35A aircraft, AU-001 and AU-002 will arrive at the airshow on Friday 3 March, returning to the United States via RAAF Base Amberley allowing Australian pilots to continue their training. The visit is a significant contribution by the United States Air Force Training Command, and Lockheed Martin to facilitate the deployment from Luke Air Force Base during their training period...."


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Unread post07 Feb 2017, 15:45

F-35 to make Australian debut at Avalon
07 Feb 2017 Greg Waldron

"...A source familiar with the F-35A’s debut says the aircraft’s appearance at the show was contingent upon securing air-to-air refuelling support for the ferry flight from the USA...."

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... on-433888/
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Unread post15 Feb 2017, 03:02

Theys not on flying displays as of 14 Feb 2017: https://www.airshow.com.au/airshow2017/ ... rogram.asp
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Unread post17 Feb 2017, 10:05

The JSF: time for a reality check (part 1) [a lot of the usual stuff + misspellings about F-35 but hey - Oz]
17 Feb 2017 Brendan Nicholson

"...Getting the pair of highly advanced, ‘fifth generation’ jets to the Avalon Air Show will itself be a comprehensive demonstration of aviation logistics. They’ll be flown to Australia by Aussie pilots and frequently topped up along the way by a RAAF KC-30 air-to-air refuelling tanker.

Another officer with an intense interest in ensuring that the JSF works is Army chief Lieutenant General Angus Campbell. He rejects suggestions the F-35 will not be able to provide troops on the ground with effective air support. ‘The JSF is an extremely advanced fighter which has extraordinary and possibly unparalleled capacities in information networking which we’ve not seen in the ADF before,’ says Lieutenant General Campbell.

‘Every soldier on every battlefield through modern history will want, or pray for, control of the air above him. The F-35 gives our soldiers the greatest confidence that they will have air control above them. I’m delighted we’re getting it. Only those who don’t have air control above them know the true horror of that environment and I would not want that for Australian soldiers.’


Source: https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/jsf-t ... ck-part-1/
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Unread post25 Feb 2017, 07:09

LM F-35 GM Weekly Update
23 Feb 2017 Jeff Babione

"...F-35A at the Avalon Airshow in Australia. AU-1 and AU-2 are scheduled to take off from Luke AFB today [23 Feb 2017? whenever]. The jets are scheduled for static display during the show. I’ll be there along with other industry leaders to bring you all the latest from the show...."

Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... _23_17.pdf (0.6Mb)
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Unread post27 Feb 2017, 09:36

The two Australian F35's arrived today at RAAF Amberley, no fanfare, no live video, no countdown just a very quiet arrival. After two weeks of catching the Super Hornet practice I thought this week would be a little dead so I missed the arrival.
Departure on Friday will see a bit of a crowd I guess.
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