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Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 27 Dec 2016, 00:42
by popcorn
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spazsinbad wrote:On NavWeaps forum 'Hindpool' [design?] has a lot of expert knowledge about CVF but his prejudice against F-35B is clear and I'm not sure he even understands what the F-35 variants can do - especially compared to the Hairier. Be that as it may.... and about the 'cats n'flaps' brief alternative - seems he is OFF the planet.
"...Sharky Ward is right about the Hogging problem, but economical about the solution. We knew all along about ship's structural deck stresses and many hours, nay years were spent computer modelling the dynamic structural stress and deflections under all manner of circumstances. The areas of highest stress are around the Aircraft Lift Apertures at the flight deck, all of which are massively reinforced with flitch plates accordingly. Why do you think the A/C lift inner apertures have stress reduction parabolic curves at the deck cut-out?..."

Source: http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.c ... ply-538413

Hogging on Sharkey's brain.

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 27 Dec 2016, 00:44
by spazsinbad
HOLY MOLY!

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 28 Dec 2016, 04:08
by steve2267
popcorn wrote:Hogging on Sharkey's brain.

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Damn that's a lot of flex. Tell me that's not normal. Then tell me that ship didn't split in two.

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 28 Dec 2016, 04:22
by spazsinbad

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2016, 00:40
by zerion

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2016, 01:34
by popcorn
zerion wrote:HMS QE to deploy to pacific.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british ... ign=social



The squadron of US F-35B aircraft will augment British jets on coalition operations, not replace them.

Funny, and bolded too... but I guess they just wanted to make sure no one got the wrong idea. :mrgreen:

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2016, 01:40
by spazsinbad
Hmmm - funny how other nationalities read English. The MoD/DefMin UK have said they will not have enough F-35Bs initially (slow buy - no money) so they welcome USMC F-35Bs - not a new concept - USMC Hairiers onboard INVINCIBLE? late in CVS history with few UK Harriers available at the time - because they were in STAN. The slow buy of UK F-35Bs was speeded up recently - but not enough. The RN absolutely welcome the USMC Bs because they can practice with full deck.

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2016, 03:11
by tincansailor
popcorn wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:On NavWeaps forum 'Hindpool' [design?] has a lot of expert knowledge about CVF but his prejudice against F-35B is clear and I'm not sure he even understands what the F-35 variants can do - especially compared to the Hairier. Be that as it may.... and about the 'cats n'flaps' brief alternative - seems he is OFF the planet.
"...Sharky Ward is right about the Hogging problem, but economical about the solution. We knew all along about ship's structural deck stresses and many hours, nay years were spent computer modelling the dynamic structural stress and deflections under all manner of circumstances. The areas of highest stress are around the Aircraft Lift Apertures at the flight deck, all of which are massively reinforced with flitch plates accordingly. Why do you think the A/C lift inner apertures have stress reduction parabolic curves at the deck cut-out?..."

Source: http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.c ... ply-538413

Hogging on Sharkey's brain.



Wow. I think that ship is about to break in two. Springing plates, taking on water, cargo containers shifting, center of gravity changing. God help the crew.

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2016, 03:24
by popcorn
Extreme hogging... Mk-48 ADCAP variety
http://www.sdheroes.com/wp-content/uplo ... esting.jpg

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2016, 03:31
by spazsinbad

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 13 Jan 2017, 17:49
by zerion
F-35B the right choice and the only choice for the Royal Navy

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/f-35b-t ... oyal-navy/

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 13 Jan 2017, 20:43
by spazsinbad
Using Windows 10 IE 11 or EDGE they could not see that URL above 'saveRN' - ONLY Firefox sees it. I dunno.... So anyway a 5 page PDF of this article is attached.

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 30 Jan 2017, 02:13
by zerion

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 30 Jan 2017, 02:40
by Corsair1963
zerion wrote:F-35B the right choice and the only choice for the Royal Navy

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/f-35b-t ... oyal-navy/



Under no conditions is the USN going to axe the F-35C. First, it would leave the Navy will no Stealth Fighter for 20-30 years. Plus, Trump will need everyone of those aircraft to help drive the cost of the program down!

:doh:

Re: UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

Unread postPosted: 06 Mar 2017, 23:11
by popcorn
The Brits putting their simulator thru its paces. Some SRVL info.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/f35-simu ... ems-warton

Flying the F-35B: inside BAE's secret war machine simulator tucked away in a quiet UK village