UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

popcorn · by **popcorn** » 27 Dec 2016, 00:42

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spazsinbad wrote:On NavWeaps forum 'Hindpool' [design?] has a lot of expert knowledge about CVF but his prejudice against F-35B is clear and I'm not sure he even understands what the F-35 variants can do - especially compared to the Hairier. Be that as it may.... and about the 'cats n'flaps' brief alternative - seems he is OFF the planet.
"...Sharky Ward is right about the Hogging problem, but economical about the solution. We knew all along about ship's structural deck stresses and many hours, nay years were spent computer modelling the dynamic structural stress and deflections under all manner of circumstances. The areas of highest stress are around the Aircraft Lift Apertures at the flight deck, all of which are massively reinforced with flitch plates accordingly. Why do you think the A/C lift inner apertures have stress reduction parabolic curves at the deck cut-out?..."

Source: http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.c ... ply-538413

Hogging on Sharkey's brain.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 27 Dec 2016, 00:44

HOLY MOLY!

steve2267 · by **steve2267** » 28 Dec 2016, 04:08

popcorn wrote:Hogging on Sharkey's brain.

Damn that's a lot of flex. Tell me that's not normal. Then tell me that ship didn't split in two.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 28 Dec 2016, 04:22

MOL News is not good: http://www.rtiforensics.com/blog/mol-co ... er-weights

zerion · by **zerion** » 29 Dec 2016, 00:40

HMS QE to deploy to pacific.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british ... ign=social

popcorn · by **popcorn** » 29 Dec 2016, 01:34

zerion wrote:HMS QE to deploy to pacific.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british ... ign=social

The squadron of US F-35B aircraft will augment British jets on coalition operations, not replace them.

Funny, and bolded too... but I guess they just wanted to make sure no one got the wrong idea. :mrgreen:

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 29 Dec 2016, 01:40

Hmmm - funny how other nationalities read English. The MoD/DefMin UK have said they will not have enough F-35Bs initially (slow buy - no money) so they welcome USMC F-35Bs - not a new concept - USMC Hairiers onboard INVINCIBLE? late in CVS history with few UK Harriers available at the time - because they were in STAN. The slow buy of UK F-35Bs was speeded up recently - but not enough. The RN absolutely welcome the USMC Bs because they can practice with full deck.

tincansailor · by **tincansailor** » 29 Dec 2016, 03:11

popcorn wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:On NavWeaps forum 'Hindpool' [design?] has a lot of expert knowledge about CVF but his prejudice against F-35B is clear and I'm not sure he even understands what the F-35 variants can do - especially compared to the Hairier. Be that as it may.... and about the 'cats n'flaps' brief alternative - seems he is OFF the planet.
"...Sharky Ward is right about the Hogging problem, but economical about the solution. We knew all along about ship's structural deck stresses and many hours, nay years were spent computer modelling the dynamic structural stress and deflections under all manner of circumstances. The areas of highest stress are around the Aircraft Lift Apertures at the flight deck, all of which are massively reinforced with flitch plates accordingly. Why do you think the A/C lift inner apertures have stress reduction parabolic curves at the deck cut-out?..."

Source: http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.c ... ply-538413

Hogging on Sharkey's brain.

Wow. I think that ship is about to break in two. Springing plates, taking on water, cargo containers shifting, center of gravity changing. God help the crew.

popcorn · by **popcorn** » 29 Dec 2016, 03:24

Extreme hogging... Mk-48 ADCAP variety
http://www.sdheroes.com/wp-content/uplo ... esting.jpg

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 29 Dec 2016, 03:31

'TCS' go here for the bad news: http://www.rtiforensics.com/blog/mol-co ... er-weights

zerion · by **zerion** » 13 Jan 2017, 17:49

F-35B the right choice and the only choice for the Royal Navy

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/f-35b-t ... oyal-navy/

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 13 Jan 2017, 20:43

Using Windows 10 IE 11 or EDGE they could not see that URL above 'saveRN' - ONLY Firefox sees it. I dunno.... So anyway a 5 page PDF of this article is attached.

zerion · by **zerion** » 30 Jan 2017, 02:13

Queen E update

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/first-a ... th-summer/

Corsair1963 · by **Corsair1963** » 30 Jan 2017, 02:40

zerion wrote:F-35B the right choice and the only choice for the Royal Navy

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/f-35b-t ... oyal-navy/

Under no conditions is the USN going to axe the F-35C. First, it would leave the Navy will no Stealth Fighter for 20-30 years. Plus, Trump will need everyone of those aircraft to help drive the cost of the program down!

:doh:

popcorn · by **popcorn** » 06 Mar 2017, 23:11

The Brits putting their simulator thru its paces. Some SRVL info.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/f35-simu ... ems-warton

Flying the F-35B: inside BAE's secret war machine simulator tucked away in a quiet UK village