UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

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Unread post11 Nov 2020, 20:15

US Marine Corps reports successful integration exercise onboard HMS Queen Elizabeth
11 Nov 2020 SaveTheRoyalNavy

"...Achieving genuine interoperability is far more complex than it may appear. A common language and operating the same aircraft is just the starting point. Officially the Pentagon describes interoperability as the ability to act together coherently, effectively, and efficiently to achieve tactical, operational, and strategic objectives, requiring the ability to exchange information through electronic communication. Even more importantly at the human level commanders need to understand each other’s doctrine and tactics if they are to be able to go into combat together.

To some extent, this interoperability is a perishable skill that requires continual exercising together, communication, liaison and planning. Britain is fortunate to have such a committed partner and the regeneration of UK Carrier Enabled Power Projection would have been almost impossible without assistance from the US. There is also a significant political dimension to embarking USMC onboard HMS Queen Elizabeth. Potential adversaries are put on notice that the US would be directly in the fight if the carrier group was attacked. This significantly raises the stakes beyond what it would be if it were an entirely British force.

It is also interesting to note that the benefit of the integration of the two forces was in serious jeopardy when in 2010 the UK reversed its decision to buy the F-35B and go for CATOBAR carriers and F-35C. This decision put the USMC in a difficult position and for a short period, the Pentagon began to doubt the whole viability of the B variant. Fortunately for the USMC, the UK reverted back to the STOVL carriers / B variant in 2012 and the rest is history."

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Unread post20 Nov 2020, 17:36

Reports in the press yesterday that the UK will be reducing its F-35 order to 69 aircraft from 138. That's a total F-35 fleet smaller than the carrying capacity of the two carriers.

It is part of an injection of funds into items such as a new Space Command in return for cuts elsewhere. Also expected is a 15% reduction in the army and mothballing of the entire fleet of Challenger II tanks.

Also announced yesterday was orders for 8 Type 26 and 5 Type 31 frigates plus research into a follow on Type 32.
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Unread post20 Nov 2020, 18:22

boff180 wrote:Reports in the press yesterday that the UK will be reducing its F-35 order to 69 aircraft from 138. That's a total F-35 fleet smaller than the carrying capacity of the two carriers.

It is part of an injection of funds into items such as a new Space Command in return for cuts elsewhere. Also expected is a 15% reduction in the army and mothballing of the entire fleet of Challenger II tanks.

Also announced yesterday was orders for 8 Type 26 and 5 Type 31 frigates plus research into a follow on Type 32.


Yeah, in ‘The Sun’...

I’ll wait til I hear what the RAF / RN has to say about it...
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