UK MOD in a muddle over F-35C

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Unread post07 Oct 2020, 00:40

HMS Queen Elizabeth: Images win Royal Navy photographic award 07 Oct 2020 BBC
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Unread post16 Oct 2020, 01:16

Lots of hubba-hubba ship photos as well at: https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/hms-qu ... t-warrior/
HMS Queen Elizabeth and carrier strike group participate in exercise Joint Warrior 15 Oct 2020 SaveTheRoyalNavy

Back in the game - Flying the F-35 from HMS Queen Elizabeth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIroDPghWF4


Photo: "500lb GBU-12 Laser Guided Bombs are loaded onto a UK jet on the carrier. Subsequently, Commando Wildcat pilots of 847 NAS conducted the first live UK FAC(A) control of an F-35, guiding the bombs onto the Cape Wrath range." https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/wp-con ... -Bombs.jpg
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Unread post25 Oct 2020, 03:06

Wot dis fred title is all about: UK F-35B/C muddle in retrospect as it affected the USMC purchase/development of F-35Bs.
USMC Deployment Onboard HMS Queen Elizabeth: The Partnership Which Almost Did Not Happen
18 Oct 2020 Robbin Laird

"In this September 23, 2020 story published by 3rd Marie Aircraft Wing, the historic deployment of USMC F-35Bs onboard the UK’s largest warship ever built by the UK was highlighted.... [ https://www.marines.mil/News/News-Displ ... on-vessel/ ]

... looking back, this partnership almost did not happen. 10 years ago this month, the UK government announced that they were pulling out from the F-35B program to buy F-35Cs, and to redesign their new carriers to use catapults, namely, the new electronic catapults planned by the US Navy for the USS Ford class.

As part of the UK’s 2010 strategic review, the government committed to rebuilding their new carriers to enable “cats and traps” as the launch mechanism, and the purchase of F-35Cs versus F-35Bs.

This decision left the USMC in a very difficult situation within the Pentagon at the time, ramping up pressure on their F-35B purchases. Suggestive of the position the UK decision to move to the C versus the B put the Marines in is found in the analysis in this March 26, 2011 article by Robert F. Dorr: [ https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/sto ... irst-time/ ]...

...As Lt. General (Retired) George Trautman put it today: “Within days of the UK decision, the Commandant and I found ourselves in a fight for the mere existence of the F-35B. “The program’s opponents in the US Navy, OSD and Congress, urged on by a false narrative from industry, were almost gleeful that we appeared to be isolated. “Thankfully, we were able to defend the program and my prediction that the UK would return to STOVL turned out to be right just two years later.”

Now there are several F-35B users globally, with the prospect of others, precisely for the reason the USMC bought it, namely, deployment flexibility.

Lt. General (Retired) George Trautman added to his comment made today (October 18, 2020): “Today, the unique capabilities of the F-35B are widely recognized and the aircraft has been embraced by a growing number of nations... [then a history lesson in WWII Sea Wars]

...This global ocean war created a tactical and technology partnership between the US Navy and Royal Navy that continues strong to this day. After the war, with the advent of jet engines and the growth of aircraft carries into “super carriers,” the relationship was deepened.

The contribution of the Royal Navy is heard in every cockpit coming on board a USN carrier on every landing “Meat Ball — Line-up — Angel of Attack” is the scan pattern all USN/USMC Carrier Pilots. That mantra is taught from day one on a Naval Aviators quest to successfully Carrier Qual (CQ) in order to receive their Navy Wings of Gold and join a squadron ready for sea duty. This lifesaving mantra is built on several design gifts given to the US Navy by the Royal Navy.

Centering the “meat ball” puts the aircraft on a perfect glide slope for an “OK-3 wire” the code for a perfect trap. Calling -the “meat ball” to the LSO, along with fuel state, is possible because of the evolution of the fresnel lens which the British pioneered for their early jet carrier operations.

“Line-up.” adjusting for the centerline, is now targeted to align with an angled deck. That design added a huge margin of safety. The angle deck also greatly aided efficient operations during flight quarters effectively to cycle Carrier Air Group (CAG) aircraft into an effective unified airborne fighting force.

Finally, checking the ” Angle Of Attack” is an easy and fail safe indicator of having sufficient and safe airspeed to come aboard. [very helpful to USAF pilots landing to check their airspeed also]

The British also designed the “hurricane bow” because a modern carrier must be sea worthy from the Arctic to the Equator with the ability to operate in all weather, day and night. Sea worthiness against a “cruel sea” is critical and the British got it right as Carrier Aviation transitioned from props to jets. Finally, thanks again to the Royal Navy for steam catapults to give added energy for a successful carrier take off of high performance jets.

It is fair to say that operating day or night, in all weather from ice to tropics, a modern aircraft carrier is one of the most complex engineering achievements of any society. It transports thousands of sailors across all oceans, escorted by support ships and aircraft — all with a mission to project power. 4.5 Acres of sovereign US airfield capable of 30+ knots going into harms way is a significant combat asset.... [then more repeat words than I can deal with at one go but with goodness]

...The F-35B reverses the relationship between pre-defined operational bases and the aircraft. The aircraft no longer constrains the definition of an airfield. The sortie rate of an F-35 aircraft is more than just rearm and “gas and go.” It is continuity of operations with each aircraft linking in and out as they turn and burn without losing situational awareness. This can all be done in locations that can come as a complete tactical surprise –the F-35B sortie rate action reaction cycle has an add dimension of unique and unexpected basing thus getting inside an opponent’s OODA (Observe, Orient, Decide and Act) loop….." [ends here but more later?]

Source: https://sldinfo.com/2020/10/usmc-deploy ... ot-happen/
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