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by doge » 16 Mar 2019, 15:12

Lightning Keepers!! :D
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/ne ... fleet.html


Inside the intake!!!! :shock: wow. 8)
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by spazsinbad » 16 Mar 2019, 15:37

THANKS 'doge'. Great to see those guys 'doin' their thang'. :D


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by krorvik » 16 Mar 2019, 16:43

And it gives me a special warm feeling seeing those fine folks taking such good care of RNoAF jets.


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by gc » 17 Mar 2019, 05:15

Norwegian F-35 successfully completed first AMRAAM missile tests

https://defence-blog.com/news/norwegian ... tests.html

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What is the F-35’s typical operating altitude? The f-16 operates at FL200-250 with a combat loadout while the eagle holds significantly higher giving its amraams greater reach. Having a lightning operate as high as an Eagle takes away one of the few air to air missile truck tactical advantage that the Eagle holds over the lightning.


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by Dragon029 » 17 Mar 2019, 06:15

It'll vary naturally depending on the situation and tasking, but you can probably expect them to operate higher and slightly faster than F-16s on average.


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by sprstdlyscottsmn » 17 Mar 2019, 16:20

IIRC Dolby said 10-12,000ft higher and 50-70kt faster than F-16s
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by wrightwing » 20 Mar 2019, 04:34

sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:IIRC Dolby said 10-12,000ft higher and 50-70kt faster than F-16s

10-15k higher and ~ M.12 faster, with an equivalent load, without afterburners.


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by sprstdlyscottsmn » 20 Mar 2019, 04:49

And .12M is 69kt
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by wrightwing » 20 Mar 2019, 07:59

sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:And .12M is 69kt

More like 80kts. .103 is 69kts.


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by gc » 20 Mar 2019, 11:54

Thats great. FL350 is not too bad.


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by sprstdlyscottsmn » 20 Mar 2019, 14:04

wrightwing wrote:
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:And .12M is 69kt

More like 80kts. .103 is 69kts.

Above 36,000ft the speed of sound is 968ft/s at standard temperature. 0.12 * 968 = 116ft/s. 116 ft/s * 3600 s/hr / 6080 ft/nm gives 68.7nm/hr.

You used the sea level speed of sound.

And I found the quote

"With the F-35, we get more of all this, compared to what we are used to today. To discover how much more was a positive surprise for me. In full war equipment operates F-35 effortlessly 10,000 to 15,000 feet higher than our F-16 can, without using afterburner. The speed in 'cruises' is without further 50 to 80 knots higher. In the F-16, I must use afterburner and take running speed before a missile shot. F-35 "cruiser" both faster and higher. Therefore, I am ready to shoot far anytime."

At altitude 50-80kt is .09-.14M
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by Dragon029 » 04 Apr 2019, 03:04

Vago had a program update interview with Winter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBMWzCA_Gg


Major take-aways:

1. ALIS 3.0 reduced false alarms in the fleet by "up to" 70%, but there's still issues that need working through.
2. Mission Data Files and Full Mission Simulators have been updated.
3. >390 F-35s have been delivered worldwide to 18 bases and 2 ships.
4. Approx "70%" of all partner and FMS services have delcared IOC (3 US services, UK, Italy, Japan, Israel [I might be missing one or two others]).
5. 131 jets planned to be delivered in CY19, 167 planned for delivery in CY21.
6. F-35 flight operations (as per sustainment plans) are now expected to run until 2077, not 2070.
7. Winter has some concern about cost performance matching volume ramp, but isn't concerned about ramp rate being diminished, etc, especially with new FMS customers coming aboard.
8. CPFH in CY18 for an F-35A was $44K/hr, F-35B was $51K/hr, F-35C was $59K/hr (full ownership CPFH).
9. Winter believes they are on track for an F-35A (full ownership) CPFH to reach $25K/hr by 2025.
10. CPFH reduction will be driven by depot component repair times going from 190-200 days (today) to 45 days by 2025; increased reliability of later-lot F-35s; and also reduced manpower requirements due to airframe and ALIS improvements.
11. Lot 12 is being negotitated, Lot 13 will follow on its heels, Lot 14 negotiations are expected to begin in FY20 (but before the end of CY19 according to Winter).
12. Winter himself has not been involved in any USAF / USN 6th gen acquisition planning discussions, but says he has JPO engineers and ops analysts involved, and thinks F-35 DNA in the form of tech and business lessons learned will be folded into those programs.
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by spazsinbad » 04 Apr 2019, 03:18

:applause: Thanks for the video with notes 'Dragon029'. :applause: I like the way VAGO refers to 'other than F-35s' as HERITAGE AIRCRAFT. :doh: SPOT ON! :devil:


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by Corsair1963 » 04 Apr 2019, 04:59

GREAT NEWS :D


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by squirrelshoes » 04 Apr 2019, 05:58

3. >390 F-35s have been delivered worldwide to 18 bases and 2 ships.
5. 131 jets planned to be delivered in CY19, 167 planned for delivery in CY21.

Woah there... that might pass the Pierre Sprey limit.

Impossible.


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