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Unread post13 Jun 2018, 04:48

It's my understanding that all of the 11/12 T-50s have been built (IIRC one was merged with the one that had that fire). China meanwhile has >20 J-20s, including the 10 or howevermany test airframes; China's stated that they aim to have at least 100 of them by the end of 2020 with a production rate of 3 per month.
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Unread post13 Jun 2018, 07:50

Dragon029 wrote:On my F-35 subreddit we just recently had a Fort Worth worker chime in and answer some questions; apparently a lot of the new hires have never worked on aircraft before and there's been incidents such as an F-35C aileron being cracked when a person tried to raise it by hand at its edge, another drilled a hole into a flaperon (without consulting anyone) using a cutting disc when a nut plate came loose inside, a bunch of cotter pins and nuts have been found loose, etc. The workers with experience are basically having to be extra vigilant at QC.


Loose lips sink ships, I expext Lockheed will plug this leak quickly.
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Unread post13 Jun 2018, 12:45

Dragon029 wrote:It's my understanding that all of the 11/12 T-50s have been built (IIRC one was merged with the one that had that fire). China meanwhile has >20 J-20s, including the 10 or howevermany test airframes; China's stated that they aim to have at least 100 of them by the end of 2020 with a production rate of 3 per month.


LRIP production was started Dec 2015 and the first 4 appeared by mid-2016.

https://www.popsci.com/four-in-row-chin ... rows-again

The above link suggests a production run of at least 8 capacity a year but more likely imho 1 per month as a max rate (similar to J-10 LRIP which went up to 2-3 a month after production stablised). 78271-78276 serials appeared at Dingxin by end of 2016 which suggested an actual build rate of at least 6 a year. 78232 suggested a 2nd training brigade at Cangzhou.

If extrapolate from 2017 to date, it suggests a low of 15 (serial 15 was noted on yellow primer on one of the LRIP jets) to as high as 30 production units to date not including the 10 prototypes. Increasing use of covered hangers at CAC, Cangzhou and even Wuhu complicates matters but clearly enough hangers to support more than 30. This is what the PLA has been doing for the later batch J-10s (consolidate production units under wraps and suddenly big bang release).

First J-20s in combat units was announced earlier this year. Apart from the training brigade appears to suggest somewhere between 15 to 30 as a likely outcome.

The J-20 will never reach F-35 production levels (6 now, 12 max a month). However, I would expect it to overtake F-22 numbers in about 10-15 years.
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Unread post15 Jun 2018, 07:55

Repeating what others have said!!!! Neat! 300th F-35 delivered.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... 30-449420/

The milestone figure comprises 197 F-35As, 75 F-35Bs and 28 F-35Cs.
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Unread post15 Jun 2018, 10:03

That info is encapsulated in several posts in the lower half of the previous page of this thread.
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Unread post15 Jun 2018, 15:43

After all the death spiral news being repeated over and over...

These are really the kind of news that are worth repeating.
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Unread post15 Jun 2018, 16:10

IF you feel that way then at least acknowledge previous posters - thanks.
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Unread post16 Jun 2018, 02:33

spazsinbad wrote:IF you feel that way then at least acknowledge previous posters - thanks.


Not really since I posted from a different source but since you feel so strongly about it, your previous post is acknowledged.
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Unread post16 Jun 2018, 02:37

And there are others also. I think you need to respect the members here who post and otherwise LOOK/READ FIRST.
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Unread post16 Jun 2018, 03:21

spazsinbad wrote:And there are others also. I think you need to respect the members here who post and otherwise LOOK/READ FIRST.


Yup, like how a lot of people seem to acknowledge my sources...but wait...do they?...respect is given when received. But acknowledged, sometimes its a reflection of one's personal values that we act based on what we think is right regardless of what others do. So apologies if there was any offense because it was not a deliberate attempt to disrespect anyone. Just a real shout out at good news as highlighted.
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Unread post16 Jun 2018, 03:52

Well said.
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Unread post15 Jul 2018, 11:17

Reuters is flogging this as an exclusive: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brit ... ium=Social

The deal for 141 F-35s lowers the price of the F-35A, the most common version of the stealthy fighter jet, to about $89 million, down around 6 percent from $94.3 million in the last deal struck in February 2017, the sources familiar with the talks said.
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Unread post19 Sep 2018, 00:53

Great source of information on F-35 activity; quick and easy :doh:

https://twitter.com/thef35
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Unread post03 Oct 2018, 01:46

According to breaking defense, CPFH plunged $12k in 2017:

https://breakingdefense.com/2018/10/f-3 ... 100-f-35s/
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Unread post03 Oct 2018, 03:04

citanon wrote:According to breaking defense, CPFH plunged $12k in 2017:

https://breakingdefense.com/2018/10/f-3 ... 100-f-35s/


They still haven't figured this one out?

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Accel + Alt + VLO + DAS + MDF + Radial Distance = LIFE . . . Always choose Stealth
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