F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Apr 2009, 20:14
by SpudmanWP
I am going to post all the recent (2006 forward) JSF program Docs for everyone's future reference.

I will all older & newer ones as I find them.

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RE: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Apr 2009, 21:10
by SpudmanWP
Still need :
Israel's briefing.. anyone have a link?

Did I miss any recent ones??


Waiting to compress under 8 megs:
2008 JSF Norway Briefing
http://photos.state.gov/libraries/norwa ... erview.pdf

2008 Economic Development Council briefing (it has very detailed production info for USA and allies)
http://www.florida-edc.org/Roundtable/M ... Sept08.pdf

Admins:
Can we get the RAR limit up to 9 megs as I have several docs that when RAR'ed are between 8 and 9 megs.

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RE: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 22 Apr 2009, 18:00
by SpudmanWP
@ updates

Links to Large PDFs added to 2nd post
2008 JSF Norway Briefing
http://photos.state.gov/libraries/norwa ... erview.pdf

2008 Economic Development Council briefing (it has very detailed production info for USA and allies)
http://www.florida-edc.org/Roundtable/M ... Sept08.pdf

Original 2006 Norway Briefing added to 2nd post

Still looking for the Israel Brief and any other (Japan, S. Korea,Greece, etc) that I may be missing.

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Unread postPosted: 22 Apr 2009, 18:01
by SpudmanWP
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Unread postPosted: 12 May 2009, 23:18
by SpudmanWP
25 March 2009
F-35 Corrosion Prevention and Control Programs
Author: Amanda Gentry
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. All LRIP1 AC in production and starting on LRIP2 (page 8 )
2. All SDD AC to be completed by the end of 2009 (page 8 )
3. F-35C rolls off the line in May 2009 (page 8 )
4. Defines key program points in 5 years (2014) (page 9)
.....a. Producing 130 AC / yr
.....b. Supporting 210 Field AC
.....c. 20 AC in Operational Test
.....d. 180 Students / Yr through ITC
.....e. 5 USMC Squadrons in Place
.....f. Block 4 in Development
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15 Nov 2007
F-35 Lightning II Maintenance Training & Distance Support
Author: Robert Finley
Original Location: Here

Highlights:
Good overview of Training structure
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15 April 2009
F-35 Acoustics
Author: JSF Program Office
Original Location: Here

Highlights:
F-35 ranks even with other AC on normal operations
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08 August 2008
F135 Program Overview
Author: Jim Higgins
Original Location: Here

Highlights:
Lots of Misc info
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22 May 2006
F-35 Pollution Prevention
Author: Scott Fetter
Original Location: Here

Highlights:
Lots of info on steps taken to reduce toxic products.
Good info on new on-board O2 generator, fire suppression, and APU.
Info on steps to make corrosion resistant.
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17 July 2006
JSF Stores Separation
Author: Chris Hetreed
Original Location: Here

Highlights:
Good info on the study of stores (weapons) separation.
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RE: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 13 May 2009, 01:10
by SpudmanWP
Just posted 6 more docs

RE: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 15 May 2009, 02:57
by renatohm
Great posts!!! Thanks!!!

Re: RE: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 15 May 2009, 23:55
by Beazz
Admins:
Can we get the RAR limit up to 9 megs as I have several docs that when RAR'ed are between 8 and 9 megs.

Well just split them into 2 parts to get under the limit. Doesn't take any longer for WinRar to split it while compressing it.

Beazz

RE: Re: RE: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 May 2009, 16:15
by SpudmanWP
I could split it... I was just trying to keep it simple.

RE: Re: RE: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 02 Jun 2009, 21:23
by SpudmanWP
June 2007
F-35 Brief for Israel

Highlights:
1. Good cockpit images
2. Good DAS and SAR imagery

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RE: Re: RE: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Jun 2009, 20:12
by SpudmanWP
14 May 2009
F-35 Program Update
Author: Dan Kunec
Director, Air System Integration
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. "Why All the Fuss About 5th Gen Capabilities?" (page 5)
2. First of Type Timelines (page 9)
3. Major Accomplishments to Date (page 11)

I had to split it into two RAR files to get it to fit.

Unread postPosted: 11 Jun 2009, 12:30
by cobzz
In the last one.

- Successful IRCM ignition demonstrated on F-16. Currently characterizing IRCM A/G and A/A performance
Page 11.

What's IRCM? And how does it work?

Unread postPosted: 11 Jun 2009, 17:42
by SpudmanWP
IRCM = InfRared CounterMeasures

ie, flares

Unread postPosted: 12 Jun 2009, 00:41
by Shaken
SpudmanWP wrote:IRCM = InfRared CounterMeasures

ie, flares


Isn't this referring to the DIRCM system, which (I believe) is a laser dazzler meant to saturate an IRM's sensor? (I wouldn't think you needed to characterize a flare dispenser on an analogous platform, since that is a pretty well understood commodity.)

Unread postPosted: 12 Jun 2009, 05:28
by cobzz
IIRC, DIRCM is for block 5 which should be around 2020. Don't think any F-35 has so far been fitted with it.

Unread postPosted: 12 Jun 2009, 05:54
by geogen
SpudmanWP wrote:IRCM = InfRared CounterMeasures

ie, flares


In the context noted, it's probably an EO/IR CM 'laser-based cm', such as NoG's Viper IRCM sys. It's not quite a DIRCM but still not bad. Apparently the CV-22 and Wedgetail will be fitted with 'Viper' according to the company site, as examples.

cobzz - the current marketing depicts Block V F-35 with full FOV DIRCM expected for IOC around 2020, correct. This actual topic was beaten to death between myself and another poster over at another site, 'AW', but other than that there doesn't seem to be much public info on exact details or changes to that plan thus far.

But according to NoG's company marketing; their currently produced and only existing DIRCM system (as claimed) could be integrated to any platform today, e.g. Super Hornet as implied on their site, if required.

By 2020 it's probably a fair guess that there could be multiple airframes flying w/ DIRCM type systems of numerous design... in anticipation of that demand.

Re: RE: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 12 Jun 2009, 08:40
by Lieven
Beazz wrote:Admins:
Can we get the RAR limit up to 9 megs as I have several docs that when RAR'ed are between 8 and 9 megs.

Beazz


Sorry Beazz, I only saw this request now. I upped the limit to 10MB now, although it's too late in this case. Next time, feel free to contact me or any of the mods directly via PM or the 'contact us' link.

Lieven

Unread postPosted: 12 Jun 2009, 17:43
by energo
Excellent work, SpudmanWP!

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 12 Jun 2009, 19:43
by SpudmanWP
07 May 2009
F-35 International Business Development
Canada and United Kingdom
Author: Keith P. Knotts
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. Canadian Contribution components (page 11)
2. Major Canadian Industrial Contributions (page 12)
3. Photos of fuel probe on CTOL version (page 16)

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Unread postPosted: 17 Jul 2009, 04:12
by SpudmanWP
13 April 2009
Qualification Testing of High Rate of Fire Gun Systems
Author: Dave Maher/Jim Talley
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. JSF CTOL Qualification Results
2. Tested to 36,000 rounds (2x service life) (pg 13)
3. Outstanding reliability demonstrated.
--No gun jams occurred in over two lifetimes of fire testing.
--No significant increase in dispersion after two lifetimes.
--No broken parts (pg 15)
4. A systematic approach resulted in a highly successful qualification test, as a prelude to flight test.
--Results of qualification testing frequently lead to design improvements.
--Overall, the JSF CTOL Gun System demonstrated exceptional reliability during qualification testing.
--Lessons learned are being applied to the Missionized Gun System, scheduled to begin qualification testing later this year. (pg 18 )


07 April 2009
25mm Ammunition Development -- From idea to prototype
Author: Martin van de Voorde (TNO)
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. Single ammo type for all missions
2. Non explosive, frangible ammo.
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Unread postPosted: 10 Aug 2009, 14:06
by spazsinbad
Joint Strike Fighter Program CAPT John “Snooze” Martins Director, Air Vehicle F-35 Lightning II Program Office 13 Mar 2009 PDF zipped 45 pages

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2009, 09:02
by spazsinbad
The complete PDF indicated below can be downloaded from here:

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/norwa ... erview.pdf

JSF Norway Brief dated 06 March 2008 zipped (however cover is dated January with otherwise the March date like all other pages). Hmmm always the file size zipped was below 9Mb but there are many ways to measure that number in Windows. After three attempts to upload the zip file I'll give up. Last version is 8.3Mb zipped - always ends with some error message. In meantime this is the supposed file size limit in the 'add attachment options':

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2009, 09:12
by SpudmanWP
2008 Norway Briefing posted (not uploaded due to size limitation)

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... 659#149659

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2009, 19:00
by lamoey
SpudmanWP wrote:IRCM = InfRared CounterMeasures

ie, flares


or is it InfraRed Counter Measures?

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2009, 22:26
by SpudmanWP
hehe....

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2009, 10:36
by spazsinbad
Economic Development Council 30 September 2008 Major General Charles R. Davis, USAF Program Executive Officer, F-35 Lightning II Program:

http://www.florida-edc.org/Roundtable/M ... Sept08.pdf (9.2Mbs)

Unread postPosted: 13 Aug 2009, 08:44
by SpudmanWP
Something new... Presentations with AUDIO

The site does require you to sign up, but it's free.

The presentations are about the Mission systems and software from the "Military Avionics 2008" conference in London.

http://www.defenceiq.com/video.cfm?externalid=205

http://www.defenceiq.com/video.cfm?externalid=207

I will try to get the files pulled off the site by themselves.

Unread postPosted: 15 Aug 2009, 15:12
by underhill
Interesting post on the ammunition - but it means that when the F-35 is firing its gun, you hear this noise:

fapfapfapfapfapfapfap

Oddly appropriate....

Unread postPosted: 15 Aug 2009, 23:58
by SpudmanWP
fap?

Unread postPosted: 16 Aug 2009, 04:55
by cobzz

Unread postPosted: 17 Aug 2009, 04:27
by SpudmanWP
It's using the same gun as the Harrier and is a more accurate and deadlier gun than the 20mm ones on F-15, F-16, F-22, etc.

Unread postPosted: 17 Aug 2009, 18:38
by Shaken
SpudmanWP wrote:It's using the same gun as the Harrier and is a more accurate and deadlier gun than the 20mm ones on F-15, F-16, F-22, etc.


Actually, the F-35 uses the GAU-22/A, a four-barrel variant of the five-barrel GAU-12/U used by the AV-8B Harrier, AC-13U Spectre and LAV-AD ground vehicle. The GAU-22/A is lighter and purportedly more accurate than GAU-12/U.

The 25mm round is longer ranged and harder hitting, but the gun has a lower RoF than the Vulcan cannon. This makes the gun a great choice for air-to-ground work, but it is not as strong for air-to-air work against a hard maneuvering targets, where RoF is the dominant characteristic. All around, the GAU-22/A is a solid choice for F-35.

-- Shaken - out --

Unread postPosted: 17 Aug 2009, 19:13
by SpudmanWP
Same round, that's what I meant.... thanks

btw, the USAF is working of laser-guided A2A rounds.... ROF would no longer be an issue.

Unread postPosted: 18 Aug 2009, 00:15
by Shaken
SpudmanWP wrote:btw, the USAF is working of laser-guided A2A rounds.... ROF would no longer be an issue.


Laser guided rounds would be nifty, but I'm not holding my breath. There have been a LOT of programs to make guided gun rounds of all sorts and precious few were successful. Do you have any link discussing this program? I'm curious about how they plan to power the rounds!

-- Shaken - out --

Unread postPosted: 18 Aug 2009, 01:34
by SpudmanWP
Start on page 18 of this PDF. They have been working on this for over 10 years.

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2009gunmissile/7946.pdf

Unread postPosted: 18 Aug 2009, 09:24
by Shaken
SpudmanWP wrote:Start on page 18 of this PDF. They have been working on this for over 10 years.


Cool stuff. Thank you!

Unread postPosted: 20 Aug 2009, 17:01
by SpudmanWP
There is a new and updated Fast Facts for April 19th.

Original location here.

Items of interest:

• Software development is on schedule, more than 70 percent complete.
• First Flight Readiness Review shows F-35B is ready to proceed with STOVL flight testing.
• Final modification period for STOVL-mode flight complete.
• First F-35 variant equipped with mission systems, BF-4, rolled out of the factory Jan. 21; will lead to the first avionics testing on board an F-35 aircraft. Expected first flight is Summer 2009.
• Aerial testing of F-35 Communications-Navigation-Identification system completed in half the time planned on CATBird.
• Carrier variant (CV) F-35C first flight in 2009.
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Unread postPosted: 20 Aug 2009, 19:38
by underhill
Where's BF-3?

Unread postPosted: 20 Aug 2009, 19:49
by SpudmanWP
BF-3 is a loads aircraft and will go though extensive ground testing before flying.

Unread postPosted: 21 Aug 2009, 06:25
by underhill
O rly?

According to the January milestones document it was to fly a month after BF-4.

Unread postPosted: 21 Aug 2009, 07:27
by spazsinbad
underhill, BF-3 is all dirtied up here: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-d ... f-35b.html

"This is what the F-35B looks like with a full load of external weapons, including the 25mm gun pod mounted on the belly. Lockheed Martin released this photo today of the BF-3 prototype, which is now in ground vibration testing. Meanwhile, the BF-1 prototype is expected to return to flight after a very long hiatus "at any minute" today, Lockheed says."

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2009, 21:15
by spazsinbad
JSF brief PDF 8Mbs

Keith P. Knotts F-35 International Business Development Canada and United Kingdom 7 May 2009

http://www.manitoba-aerospace.mb.ca/MAA ... martin.pdf


OOPS - on page 2 as Spudman indicates below. :oops:

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2009, 21:30
by SpudmanWP
Thanks for contributing, but we had it on page 2.

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... 096#154096

HMDS system from 2004

Unread postPosted: 24 Sep 2009, 02:09
by SpudmanWP
09 Aug 2004
F-35 HMDS development

Author:Bob Foote, JSF HMD Technical Lead
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. Good overview of supporting equipment and wiring for HMDS
2. Basic Stats:

Parameter ------- Characteristic
Field of View ----- 30º X 50º
Accuracy ---------- Less than 2 mr RMS
Contrast ----------> 1.2 at 10,000 Ft L
Resolution -------1280 X 1024

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Unread postPosted: 28 Sep 2009, 17:57
by flateric
SpudmanWP wrote:Something new... Presentations with AUDIO
I will try to get the files pulled off the site by themselves.


Have uploaded an archive with Bossert and Rosa presentations grabbed
there are four files - slides in *.swf and audio in *.mp3

http://www.zshare.net/download/662491619ee11112/

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2009, 03:11
by SpudmanWP
Thanks.. I ripped them too at the time, but the are too large to post here.

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2009, 06:38
by spazsinbad
JSF Avionics Briefing by Rick Rosa (early 2008) 'SWF' (Flash File) made into a PDF (large) then reprinted with the Adobe Printer to make a much smaller PDF attached here. Other one to follow....

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2009, 06:47
by spazsinbad
JSF Software Briefing by Mike Bossert (early 2008) SWF made into a PDF etc...

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2009, 12:19
by cobzz
You can view both of the above presentations at DefenseIQ with voice overlay from the actual presentation. Also included are questions and answers from the audience.

Unread postPosted: 04 Oct 2009, 06:22
by SpudmanWP
08 Nov 2006
F-35 Program Update

Author:John Baranowski, Director, Air Systems Logistics F-35 JPO
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. Basic 2006 early info including a schedule on page 13 for early comparison.

props to spazsinbad for catching this one I missed.

Unread postPosted: 04 Oct 2009, 14:44
by energo
Excellent work.

Here is a 2007 Navy presentation by Tom Burbage.

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 04 Oct 2009, 21:35
by spazsinbad
energo, thanks. Here is same Burbage PPT made into a NON animated PDF 2.73Mb (best result graphically for PDF - with one blank page edited out).

Unread postPosted: 21 Oct 2009, 08:08
by SpudmanWP
I have brought you a oldie, but a goodie... thanks again to spazinbad for bringing it to my attention.

04 Oct 2000
JSF TECHNOLOGY DEMONSTRATIONS

Author:Paul Wiedenhaefer, JSF Air Systems Requirements Integrated Product Team
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. Basic 2000 early info regarding the SA (Situational Awareness) aspects.
2. EODAS was called DAIRS (Distributed Aperture Infrared System) (page 4)
3. EOTS was listed as a Generation 3+ FLIR (page 6)
4. They specifically state "LO RCS IR Signature" (page 12)
5. My favorite... they had a full size RCS model over 9 years ago (page 1) :)

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Unread postPosted: 29 Oct 2009, 19:45
by SpudmanWP
New "Fast Facts" from LM

23 Oct 2009
LM Fast Facts

Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. Not many changes

Unread postPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 21:43
by energo
Two older briefs on the gun system.

Free Powerpoint viewer here if you need it:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en


B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 23 Dec 2009, 01:40
by energo
30 Nov 2009
LM Fast Facts


B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 25 Dec 2009, 23:17
by energo
2004 F-35 Flight Control Development
David W. Nixon
Lockheed-Martin Aeronautics

Source:
http://www.mathworks.com/aerospace-defe ... eNixon.pdf


B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 16 Jan 2010, 04:16
by SpudmanWP
Fast Facts Update
14 Jan 2010

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/asse ... 142010.pdf

Besides the obvious BF-1 and BF-2 news

1. CATBird produced first synthetic aperture radar (SAR) maps, first multi-sensor fusion tracks, in November 2009.

2. Carrier variant (CV) F-35C first flight in 1st quarter of 2010.

3. The Joint Combat Aircraft program announced that the United Kingdom has received financial approval to purchase its third F-35B operational test aircraft. (Dec. 2009)


4. The Australian government made the decision to purchase 14 F-35 aircraft. (Nov. 2009)

Unread postPosted: 16 Jan 2010, 17:47
by energo
Nicely spotted SpudmanWP.

A pdf on the F-35s ALGS framework; Autonomic Logistics Global Sustainment.

Source: http://lean.mit.edu/index.php?option=co ... Itemid=776

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 16 Jan 2010, 20:11
by neptune
energo wrote:Nicely spotted SpudmanWP.

A pdf on the F-35s ALGS framework; Autonomic Logistics Global Sustainment.

Source: http://lean.mit.edu/index.php?option=co ... Itemid=776

B. Bolsøy
Oslo
I have called the Raptor and the Lightning "software a/c". But I am rethinking that the "35" may be an order of magnitude different. After looking at the ALGS, I have started thinking about having 10 - 15 similar (frankenstein) planes downloading the systems logs after each flight into the databases. Applying our predictive and preventative analyses to the data and reporting to the maintenance and operations groups is "stunning!". As the blocks evolve and the the manufacturing increases and the number of flights continue to grow, the database analysis is staggering in potential to refine components, systems and configurations. The thought of 2,500 planes downloading after every flight and auto-analysing is "mind blowing" for maintenance and operations. The impact to manufacturing, parts stocking and distribution, maintenance and maintenance training is going to be revolutionary. The quantum leap from legacy systems to the future (F-35) is comparable to the desktop adding machine to the current quad core laptop. I'm beginning to doubt the ability of the review organizations to appreciate the impact of these features in their comparison of legacy planes and systems to this evolutionary designed system. Kind of like comparing a Spad to a F-18E. :shock:

Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2010, 02:33
by SpudmanWP
Props to ELP

http://ericpalmer.wordpress.com/2010/02 ... mmunicate/

For finding this October/November 2009 Monthly Assessment Report (production, not flight testing) from the JPO office.

Lots of good info that is not normally seen (contains a decent amount of redaction)

Jul09 - Oct09 are here:
http://www.insidedefense.com/secure/defense_extra.asp

--EDIT---
ELP tracked down the November 2009 one also, attached.

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Unread postPosted: 02 Mar 2010, 00:16
by lb
Dr Carter orders full rate production moved to 2015. Here is the Feb 24th Memorandum:

JSF - Inventing Joint Strike Fighter - Dr. Paul Bevilaqua

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 08:34
by spazsinbad
JSF - Inventing the Joint Strike Fighter Dr. Paul Bevilaqua - Lockheed Martin Skunk Works - 12 Oct 2009

http://www.nps.edu/Academics/Institutes ... ighter.pdf (4.5Mb)

RE: JSF - Inventing Joint Strike Fighter - Dr. Paul Bevilaqu

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 09:53
by spazsinbad
This link is not to a document as such but it will help explain (more tomorrow apparently with a video) about the above document:

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-d ... -f-35.html

RE: JSF - Inventing Joint Strike Fighter - Dr. Paul Bevilaqu

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2010, 19:22
by spazsinbad
3 videos of lecture here - I guess the PDF above is useful as notes for lecture?:

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-d ... -by-s.html

VIDEO: History of the F-35 by Skunk Works inventor (3 parts) By Stephen Trimble on March 22, 2010

"The DEW Line is pleased to offer a three-part video showing a fascinating (albeit poorly-lit), 1hr lecture on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, presented last week by Skunk Works engineer Paul Bevilaqua at Johns Hopkins University's applied physics laboratory in Laurel, Maryland. Bevilaqua is credited with the invention of Lockheed Martin's shaft-driven lift-fan, the core technology allowing the short-takeoff-vertical-landing (STOVL) F-35B. The first part of the lecture is below, and click on the jump to view the other two parts."

Lecture part 1 .FLV video 78Mb
Lecture part 2 .FLV video 85Mb
Lecture part 3 .FLV video 43Mb
________________________________

total time 65min / total size 206Mb

Re: RE: JSF - Inventing Joint Strike Fighter - Dr. Paul Bevi

Unread postPosted: 23 Mar 2010, 22:47
by energo
Nice work spazsinbad!


B. Bolsøy
Oslo

RE: Re: RE: JSF - Inventing Joint Strike Fighter - Dr. Paul

Unread postPosted: 01 Apr 2010, 03:21
by SpudmanWP
I came across the 2009 (December 1-3) Aircraft Structural Integrity Program Conference. There are many presentations about the F-35 ground and bird-strike testing.

Webpage: http://www.asipcon.com/Proceedings/2009 ... agenda.asp

I did not upload the "Finite Element Analysis Validation for STOVL" report because it was to large (11mb). Here is the link.
http://www.asipcon.com/Proceedings/2009 ... /P2800.pdf

--update--

I found a good article from the 2008 Conference (again, too large to upload) on Bonded Control Surfaces.
http://www.asipcon.com/2008proceedings/ ... /P1746.pdf

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RE: Re: RE: JSF - Inventing Joint Strike Fighter - Dr. Paul

Unread postPosted: 01 Apr 2010, 05:38
by spazsinbad
Thanks Spuddie, one graphic caught my eye (similar height drop from a video seen about testing Hornet for Carrier Landings). I guess the graphic is to scale.... from page 4 of "JSF_Brief_20091201_-_ASIP_Conf_-_CTOL_and_STOVL_Static_Tests.pdf"

Re: RE: Re: RE: JSF - Inventing Joint Strike Fighter - Dr. P

Unread postPosted: 01 Apr 2010, 23:58
by LMAggie
SpudmanWP wrote:I came across the 2009 (December 1-3) Aircraft Structural Integrity Program Conference. There are many presentations about the F-35 ground and bird-strike testing.

Webpage: http://www.asipcon.com/Proceedings/2009 ... agenda.asp

I did not upload the "Finite Element Analysis Validation for STOVL" report because it was to large (11mb). Here is the link.
http://www.asipcon.com/Proceedings/2009 ... /P2800.pdf

--update--

I found a good article from the 2008 Conference (again, too large to upload) on Bonded Control Surfaces.
http://www.asipcon.com/2008proceedings/ ... /P1746.pdf

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These are just a few of the many victories and successes that go unnoticed by the public and the critics. Glad to see them posted for ASIP conference.

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: JSF - Inventing Joint Strike Fighter - D

Unread postPosted: 02 Apr 2010, 01:58
by SpudmanWP
This is one of the reasons why I think the JPO should put every Presentation, cleared through it's office, on it's website (with audio if possible) as soon as it is cleared.

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2010, 19:41
by SpudmanWP
01 April 2010
LM Fast Facts

Original Location: Available Here

Is there anyone awake at the LM PR dept? You would think they would wait at least till the 2nd before releasing this. :)

Key points:
1. STOVL operations
2. First use of Gen2 Helmet
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Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2010, 21:23
by sextusempiricus
SpudmanWP wrote:01 April 2010
LM Fast Facts

Original Location: Available Here

Is there anyone awake at the LM PR dept? You would think they would wait at least till the 2nd before releasing this. :)

Key points:
1. STOVL operations
2. First use of Gen2 Helmet
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Oh, man, LM's PR department has been living and peddling one long April Fool's for years. I especially liked that they're still quoting this:

• F-35A upper-$40 million
• F-35B mid-$60 million
• F-35C mid-$60 million

And then there was this head-scratcher:

• Software development is on schedule, more than 70 percent complete.
• Software development more than 80 percent complete.

Wow, just, wow...

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2010, 22:33
by SpudmanWP
The devil is in the details.

That cost quote is:
Average Unit Recurring Flyaway Cost (in FY 2002 dollars – the most recent comprehensive estimate)
F-35A upper-$40 million
F-35B mid-$60 million
F-35C mid-$60 million


There is nothing wrong with that estimation. It is based on the REC flyaway in FY2002 dollars. The recent news articles about soaring costs have been in Then Year dollars (with inflation added) and for total program cost, not just REC Flyaway.

As to the Software Development typo, they have been making that typo since Nov '09.

On the Sep 2009 Fast Facts PDF, the 70 percent line was there. In the Nov '09 PDF, they added the 80 percent line, but forgot to delete the 70% one. Both lines have been there ever since Nov '09.

F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2010, 21:28
by SpudmanWP
10 Sep 2008
F-35 Technology Transition

Author:Dr. Jim M. Alper, Science & Technology Lead, F-35 Lightning II Program
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. Basic info for the time
2. Does include a detailed Post-SDD Block Dev Schedule on page 29.


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Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2010, 21:29
by sextusempiricus
SpudmanWP wrote:The devil is in the details.

That cost quote is:
Average Unit Recurring Flyaway Cost (in FY 2002 dollars – the most recent comprehensive estimate)
F-35A upper-$40 million
F-35B mid-$60 million
F-35C mid-$60 million


There is nothing wrong with that estimation. It is based on the REC flyaway in FY2002 dollars. The recent news articles about soaring costs have been in Then Year dollars (with inflation added) and for total program cost, not just REC Flyaway.


Spud, I wish for this to remain civil and for it not to deteriorate into a flame war, but what you claim is not at all accurate. Costs have, in fact, skyrocketed, and LM's estimates in this "fact sheet" have long ago been proven overly optimistic, to say the least. Here are a couple of links to articles that explain that what you claim is simply not the case:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/de ... d=blogDest

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/04/06 ... -soar.html

In short, from Sweetman:

"The reported increase in the APUC - from $113.6 million to $136.2 million - coincides fairly closely with Fox's March statement that the APUC "will fall in the range of $80?$95 million" in base 2002 dollars, compared with a goal of $50 million - that is, a 60-90 per cent increase.

"Fox added that the final APUC figure would "be determined based on review of the latest program plans and cost information for those aspects of the program that affect primarily the years beyond 2015." So that's what we're seeing in current news reports: Fox's 60 per cent increase was based on incomplete estimates and 90 per cent is more likely.

"So, getting back to Gates' speech last summer: Even adjusting for the more expensive B and C versions, the APUC for the F-35A now looks like $129 million. A recently released RAND report estimates that the APUC for the F-22, had production been continued, would have been $173 million. Three quarters is not less than half, Mr Secretary."

Reports Bob Cox:

"Based on figures in the document, the average cost of one F-35 -- $62 million when the program was launched in 2002 -- could rise to $115.5 million, not counting inflation, by the time all 2,457 planes that the U.S. plans to buy are built.

"Including inflation, the government now expects each F-35 to cost an average of $133.6 million. But even that figure could swell to more than $150 million when revised estimates are completed in June.

"It shows that Pentagon officials now estimate that the average cost of one F-35 has risen 57 percent before accounting for inflation. It predicts that the next round of estimates could show an increase of up to 87 percent, again before inflation."

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2010, 21:36
by SpudmanWP
Again, these types of debates belong in their own thread. I started this thread to have a repository of official Program docs for reference.

The problem with debating them here is that there is just not the room due to the vast amount of items covered in the Docs.

I welcome any healthy, and civil debate on any issue that you wish.

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2010, 22:08
by sextusempiricus
Fair enough, Spud, I'll start another thread.

Unread postPosted: 08 Apr 2010, 02:35
by bandit66
sextemusin whatever....are you really in mexico city?

Unread postPosted: 08 Apr 2010, 06:31
by sextusempiricus
bandit66 wrote:sextemusin whatever....are you really in mexico city?


Yeah, why, are you as well?

Unread postPosted: 25 May 2010, 23:12
by flateric
Joint Strike Fighter Program Office has authorized a series of publications to be produced by Faircount Media Group. Volume I “Commemorating First Flight” was published in December 2006 to coincide with the F-35’s maiden flight on 12/15/06.
The series will continue early in 2010 with Volume II “Commemorating Delivery” as the program continues its System Development and Demonstration (SDD) phase. The “Delivery” edition will contain introductory messages and interviews from JSF program personnel and senior military staff. The publication will also contain feature stories that examine the continuing chronology of the program, the international partnerships, the aircraft’s testing program, the aircraft’s design, airframe, flight systems, technology, and weaponry.


Volume I (52,7 Mb)

Unread postPosted: 26 May 2010, 00:11
by f35phixer
i have one still in the wrapper, Bidding starts at $ 1000.00 ;-))))

Unread postPosted: 26 May 2010, 03:20
by LMAggie
Interesting, this is the first I've heard of this. I may have to haggle with f35phixer to get one!

Unread postPosted: 27 May 2010, 11:15
by spazsinbad
F-35 Live Fire Test: Full-Up Systems Level Testing

http://www.bahdayton.com/surviac/asnews ... ring10.pdf (3.3Mb)

"The Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) (F-35, Lightning II) Vulnerability and Live Fire Test Team will be
conducting Full-Up System Level (FUSL) testing on the 1st JSF System Design and Development
(SDD) aircraft (2AA:0001). The F-35 live fire test and evaluation (LFT&E) strategy is to conduct a
comprehensive test and evaluation of the system-level vulnerability and lethality of all three F-35
variants against ballistic and advanced threats. The original LFT&E strategy for determining the
system-level vulnerability for the F-35 family of aircraft was founded on the FUSL testing of an
F-35 short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) variant. The approach for the remaining two
variants was to leverage the high degree of commonality between the F-35 family of aircraft by
conducting Full-Up testing of the variant unique features and component/system level tests. The
waiver approving this live fire (LF) strategy was approved by the Under Secretary of Defense for
Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics (USD AT&L) on 25 October 2001."

Unread postPosted: 27 May 2010, 11:24
by spazsinbad
Genesis of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Paul M. Bevilaqua (7.7Mb PDF)

JOURNAL OF AIRCRAFT - 2009 WRIGHT BROTHERS LECTURE - Vol. 46, No. 6, November–December 2009

http://pdf.aiaa.org/getfile.cfm?urlX=-% ... 0%20%20%0A

"Functional analysis has been used to design a common aircraft to replace the U.S. Air Force F-16s, Navy and
Marine Corps F/A-18s, and Marine AV-8s. The technical and program challenges involved in developing a common
aircraft for all three services were met by designing three highly common, but not identical, variants of the same
aircraft. The key elements of this commonality are an innovative propulsion system that can be switched from a
turbofan cycle for conventional flight to a turboshaft cycle for vertical takeoff and landing and a basic structural
arrangement that can accommodate the substitution of stronger parts in the Naval variant to absorb the greater
takeoff and landing loads of carrier operations."

Unread postPosted: 27 May 2010, 23:04
by energo
Great reading. Good work! :thumb:

Unread postPosted: 09 Jun 2010, 05:40
by spazsinbad
F-35 Weapon System Overview Doug Hayward - Deputy Director F-35 Vehicle Systems - Lockheed Martin Aeronautics

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2010armament/T ... ayward.pdf (4 Mb) Public Release JSF 10-205 4/14/10

Unread postPosted: 09 Jun 2010, 23:27
by spazsinbad
Integration of Ground and Flight Testing on F-35 Lightning II Program 04 December 2007 J. B. Yates Lockheed Martin Aeronautics

http://www.asipcon.com/2008/proceedings ... _Yates.pdf (1.6Mb)

Unread postPosted: 11 Jun 2010, 22:45
by spazsinbad
post deleted - just an early repeated PDF I [re]discovered. :roll: [Knotts Canadian Brief May 2009 PDF repeated on the DEWLINE today] http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-d ... versy.html

See this thread: http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopi ... rt-15.html

Unread postPosted: 12 Jun 2010, 02:28
by f35phixer
spazsinbad wrote:F-35 Live Fire Test: Full-Up Systems Level Testing

http://www.bahdayton.com/surviac/asnews ... ring10.pdf (3.3Mb)

"The Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) (F-35, Lightning II) Vulnerability and Live Fire Test Team will be
conducting Full-Up System Level (FUSL) testing on the 1st JSF System Design and Development
(SDD) aircraft (2AA:0001). The F-35 live fire test and evaluation (LFT&E) strategy is to conduct a
comprehensive test and evaluation of the system-level vulnerability and lethality of all three F-35
variants against ballistic and advanced threats. The original LFT&E strategy for determining the
system-level vulnerability for the F-35 family of aircraft was founded on the FUSL testing of an
F-35 short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) variant. The approach for the remaining two
variants was to leverage the high degree of commonality between the F-35 family of aircraft by
conducting Full-Up testing of the variant unique features and component/system level tests. The
waiver approving this live fire (LF) strategy was approved by the Under Secretary of Defense for
Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics (USD AT&L) on 25 October 2001."



Ah No ! Full-Up System Level (FUSL) It's AA-01 for Christ sakes! Not that i wanted a full up round to get blown away, EAC paddy wack break a program down. LM to Mr. DOD - can i not make so many jets to test, it's killing my management reserve :evil: Good lord...

New JSF MOU (Dec 2009)

Unread postPosted: 02 Jul 2010, 06:10
by SpudmanWP
Updated MOU (Dec 2009)

Here is the latest update to the JSF MOU.

http://www.jsf.mil/downloads/documents/ ... 4_2010.PDF

Just so you do not spend the next few days reading every line for changes, only the Annexes are updated.

RE: New JSF MOU (Dec 2009)

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2010, 02:37
by spazsinbad
Aerodynamic Design of the Lockheed Martin Cooperative Avionics Testbed

http://www.am-inc.com/PDF/catb.pdf (1Mb)

RE: New JSF MOU (Dec 2009)

Unread postPosted: 03 Aug 2010, 12:20
by spazsinbad
Found this PDF: http://www.asipcon.com/2006/06_proceed/ ... _Yates.pdf (3.1Mb) which is probably referred to on this page of this thread: http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopi ... rt-60.html

The PDF is titled "F-35 Aircraft Structural Integrity - Program Overview - 28 November 2006"

What was interesting to me (but I 'no squat' :roll: about these items) was a graphic showing 'engine mounts'. I recall a question from a chap doing a project about such things but could not find it using 'search'. Anyhoo graphic below.

Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 30 Aug 2010, 20:21
by SpudmanWP
11 Aug 2010
F-35 Fast Facts

Author:F-35 Communications Team
Original Location: [http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/aeronautics/products/f35/F-35FastFacts.pdf]Available Here[/url]

Highlights:
1. As of Aug. 10, 2010, the F-35 flight test program has conducted 340 test flights.
2. On July 6, the second mission systems F-35, AF-3, successfully conducted its first flight. AF-3 is the fourth F-35A CTOL variant.
3. CATB returned to Fort Worth from Edwards AFB on Aug. 13, 2010, having successfully operated the integrated electro-optical targeting system (EOTS) for the first time.
4. Canada announced its selection of the F-35 to fulfill its future fighter requirements. (July 2010)
5.
Code: Select all
F-35 Specifications
         F-35A CTOL               F-35B STOVL            F-35C CV
Length       51.4 ft / 15.67 m          51.2 ft / 15.61 m       51.5 ft / 15.7 m
Height       14.2 ft                  14.1 ft             14.9 ft
Speed       Mach 1.6(~1,200 mph)      Mach 1.6 (~1,200 mph)   Mach 1.6(~1,200 mph)
Wingspan    35 ft / 10.67 m          35 ft / 10.67 m       43 ft / 13.11 m
Wing area    460 ft2 / 42.7 m2          460 ft2 / 42.7 m2       668 ft2 / 62.06 m2
Horizontal
tail span    23 ft                   22 ft                26 ft
Combat radius(internal fuel)
         >590 nm / 1,093 km          >450 nm / 833 km       >600 n.mi / 1,111 km
Range(internal fuel)
         >1,200 nm / 2,222 km       >900 nm / 1,667 km       >1,200 n.mi / 2,222 km
Internal fuel capacity
         18,250 lb / 8278 kg       13,500 lb / 6,123.5 kg    19,750 lb / 8,958.5 kg
Weight empty
         29,300 lb                32,000 lb             34,800 lb
Maximum weight
         70,000 lb class          60,000 lb class       70,000 lb class
Max g-rating
         9.0                   7.0                7.5
Weapons payload
         18,000 lb / 8,164.67 kg    15,000 lb / 6,803.89 kg 18,000 lb / 8,164.67 kg

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 30 Aug 2010, 21:26
by spazsinbad
From August 2010 LM Fast Facts:

Average Unit Recurring Flyaway Cost (in FY 2002 dollars – the most recent comprehensive estimate)

[] F-35A upper-$40 million
[] F-35B mid-$60 million
[] F-35C mid-$60 million

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 30 Aug 2010, 22:16
by SpudmanWP
Thanks, I was in too big a hurry to do a screen shot.

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 11 Oct 2010, 13:47
by spazsinbad
https://www.ncoic.org/apps/group_public ... 5-09-a.ppt (14Mb)

JSF Interoperability Initial Capabilities & Beyond Weigel & Jahner 25 Feb 2009

Graphics only some examples. I'll try to make a good PDF of the many animated parts of the PDF but this is not certain.

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 11 Oct 2010, 14:39
by spazsinbad
PPT here: https://www.ncoic.org/apps/group_public ... 5-09-a.ppt has been made into an edited (to reduce file size) PDF. Usual pages seen in almost all F-35 briefings have been deleted. Some pages did not print so the PPT is the reference. PDF pages are best to fit in file size limit of forum. No animated elements of original PPT were retained so page defaulted to all the elements on page.

[EDIT} Realised that an important (but small fillesizewise) page was missing. This page now added to PDF available here. A graphic of same will appear below.

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 11 Oct 2010, 20:32
by SpudmanWP
Primo PDF is a Free PDF Print Driver that does a good job of shrinking PPTs (when using eBook mode).

Attached is the output without cutting any pages (only 7mb).

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RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 11 Oct 2010, 21:26
by spazsinbad
Spuddie, OK thanks. I was going to experiment more today (was late o'dark thirty yesterday). Probably best way to get animations from PPT into PDF is to use latest PowerPoint program from MS which I do not have (only PPT from 2000 probably). Never use PPT actually but have latest greatest Acrobat 9 Pro Extended (yep I did not make that up) which probably gives a great high quality PDF from PPT but when file size is restricted then.... I'll check out the Primo PDF whatname. :D Actually the latest PowerPoint viewer was used to make an .XPS file which was then printed to PDF. Could not actually print directly from PPT to PDF - why? Dunno. Probably using Windows 7 is part of the problem.

Your 7Mb PDF COMPLETE is a good result.

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 15 Nov 2010, 13:00
by spazsinbad
F-35 Lightning II - Centerpiece for 21stCentury Global Security - AFA Update
Tom Burbage 13 September 2010

http://www.lockheedmartinuk.co.uk/data/ ... Arev16.pdf (2.5Mb)

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 30 Nov 2010, 20:33
by SpudmanWP
November 22, 2010 Fast Facts:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/asse ... tFacts.pdf

Changes:

• As of Nov. 20, 2010, the F-35 flight test program has conducted 506 test flights total; 369 test flights in 2010.
• On Nov. 10, 2010, the first formation flight of two Lockheed Martin F-35B STOVL variant aircraft was completed at Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Md.
• On Nov. 6, 2010, the first F-35C carrier variant (CF-1) successfully ferried to NAS Patuxent River, Md., and Block 1, the first of three principal software-development blocks for the F-35’s mission systems, made its inaugural flight in the F-35B STOVL aircraft.
• Block 1, the first of three principal software-development blocks for the F-35’s mission systems, made its inaugural flight in BF-4 in November 2010
• (CF-1) Arrived at NAS Patuxent River, Md., on Nov. 6, 2010
• (CF-1)Airworthiness trials completed; final finishes completed
• Long-lead funding approved, and full-funding agreement reached, for Low Rate Initial Production (LRIP) lot 4 (31 aircraft, with an option for one Netherlands F-35A)
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RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 14 Jan 2011, 20:14
by SpudmanWP
January 2011 Fast Facts

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/asse ... tFacts.pdf

Changes:
• As of Jan. 7, 2011, the F-35 flight test program has conducted 555 test flights total, including 410 test flights in 2010 and 8 test flights in 2011.
• On Jan. 6, 2011, the second F-35B (BF-2) conducted its first vertical landing at NAS Patuxent River, Md.
• On Dec. 30, 2010, the 10th F-35 (AF-4) entered the test fleet, accomplishing the program’s last flight in 2010.
• On Dec. 11, 2010, AF-3, the second mission systems F-35, ferried to Edwards AFB.
• On Dec. 9, 2010, the F-35 program reached its 2010 goal of 394 test flights.
• AF-4 entered flight testing on Dec. 30, 2010.
• The first five Low Rate Initial Production aircraft have exited the factory and are undergoing ground testing prior to flight.
• CATBird, a highly modified 737, is flying and proof-testing the complete, integrated F-35 mission systems package ahead of mission systems flights in F-35 aircraft.
• F-35A CTOL $60 million

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 27 May 2011, 01:20
by spazsinbad
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter - Structural Prognostics and Health Management - An Overview 2009 ICAF Conference Rotterdam
Tim Fallon - JSF Program Office; Devinder Mahal - JSF Program Office; Iain Hebden – BAE Systems

http://www.icaf2009.nl/uploads/File/Pre ... Fallon.pdf (3.3Mb)

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 14 Oct 2011, 04:37
by spazsinbad
Manufacturing Sequence Flow Diagram .GIF is only a low quality thumbnail of the more detailed zoomable PDF attached 1.5Mb made from the PowerPointer below:

Joint Strike Fighter F-35 IUID Program Implementation 13 Jan 2011

https://acquisition.navy.mil/rda/conten ... -01-13.ppt (3.3Mb)

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 03 Nov 2011, 20:21
by scobo
Do you have the sequence flow for the CV?

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 11 Nov 2011, 23:43
by spazsinbad
Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) Sustainment for Europe | September 26, 2010 SCOTT ODGEN
Director Business Development, Global Sustainment | Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company

http://www.mcgraw-hillhomelandsecurity. ... tOgden.pdf (5Mb)

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 12 Nov 2011, 00:00
by spazsinbad
F-35 Global Sustainment 06 December 2010

http://atlanticalliance.ca/userfiles/fi ... inment.pdf (2.5Mb)

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 12 Nov 2011, 22:20
by spazsinbad
It has come to my attention that the .PPT file above 'Joint Strike Fighter F-35 IUID Program Implementation 13 Jan 2011' might be difficult to download so here it is in PDF format. However the 'flow chart' single page diagram at top of page has been especially printed with Adobe Acrobat to produce the high detail 1.5Mb PDF page attached there.

https://acquisition.navy.mil/rda/conten ... -01-13.ppt

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 13 Nov 2011, 01:52
by stereospace
Interesting PDFs. Thanks Spaz!

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 16 Nov 2011, 20:05
by spazsinbad
F-35 Selected Acquisition Report (SAR) (0.5Mb)
As of December 31, 2009

http://www.dod.gov/pubs/foi/logistics_m ... 009SAR.pdf

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 24 Nov 2011, 04:53
by SpudmanWP
October 5th, 2011
Air Armament Symposium presentation
Given by:Col Tim Morris, USAF -- Director of Development -- F-35 Lightning II Program

Items of note:
SDD test progress pg.6
LRIP & Blk matching pg.8
Shot of BF-1 with internal weapons pg.10
Info on how AA-1 is doing in the LFT pg.11

Original avail here

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 18:25
by spazsinbad
From: http://www.pogo.org/resources/national- ... 11129.html
a 19Mb PDF could be downloaded. This PDF has been 'reprinted' with relevant pages rotated to make it easy viewing and much smaller at 5Mb to be uploaded here. The original can always be downloaded here (or from URL above): http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2 ... report.pdf

F-35 Joint Strike Fighter | Concurrency Quick Look Review | 29 November 2011

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 04:48
by SpudmanWP
Better late than never, more MARS reports

Here they are from Dec 2009 to March 2010.

One thing I noticed is that they are of a much higer quality than the previous MARS reports. They are clean and searchable PDFs that you can copy/past info from.

Merry Christmas
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RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 09 Jan 2012, 08:03
by SpudmanWP
I had a fruitful Google-Fu session and came across a recent (Dec 2011) Canadian Industrial Partnership conference with some interesting PDFs.

11 Oct 2011
NGFC PMO
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. Details about the Canadian F-35 timeline (first delivery, First F-35 in Canada, IOC, & FOC)
2. Total funds and planned funds for each phase of F-35 development


---------------------------------

08 Dec 2011
The Joint Strike Fighter Program and Canadian Industrial Participation

Original Location here

Highlights:
Lots of industry specific info


-----------------------------------

14 Dec 2011
Keith P. Knotts
F-35 Business Development
Australia and Canada

Original Location: here

Highlights:
1. Shows the flight tests & point totals as of Dec 3rd.

RE: Re: F-35 Technology Transition

Unread postPosted: 09 Jan 2012, 08:32
by spazsinbad
Thanks Spuddie, I spy an LRIP 11 in the Knotts 14 Dec 2011 brief: (someone recently queried these LRIP numbers?)

http://atlanticalliance.ca/userfiles/fi ... Canada.pdf

Unread postPosted: 26 Feb 2012, 23:05
by flateric
F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts
February 6, 2012
http://f-35.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/ ... 6-2012.pdf

Unread postPosted: 02 Apr 2012, 11:25
by spazsinbad

Unread postPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 15:53
by cola
Any idea, why is F135 in March 2012, listed as 40k/25k lb class engine, instead of 43k/28k?

Unread postPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 16:08
by spazsinbad
I'll bite - where is F135 listed as a '43,/28k'? I can answer 'where' but you will have to ask LM 'why'.

http://www.f135engine.com/proven-tech/e ... cter.shtml

Unread postPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 17:19
by g3143
cola wrote:Any idea, why is F135 in March 2012, listed as 40k/25k lb class engine, instead of 43k/28k?


Maybe 40k/25k is what the engine must do, but we all know it can really do is 43k/28k.

Unread postPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 22:15
by cola
spazsinbad wrote:I'll bite - where is F135 listed as a '43,/28k'? I can answer 'where' but you will have to ask LM 'why'.

http://www.f135engine.com/proven-tech/e ... cter.shtml

PW has 43k lb listed on their site > http://www.pw.utc.com/products/military/f135.asp
Didn't quite follow, so do you have any idea when that changed?

Unread postPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 22:23
by spazsinbad
At the link 'cola' provided the info is this: (under the 'characteristics' tab). 'TEG' will probably have an explanation whilst 'g3143' seems to be close, perhaps engine control software limits engine output for prolonging engine service life? Anyway:

Engine Characteristics
Conventional Take Off and Landing CTOL / CV Engine Design

Maximum Thrust (in pounds): 43,000 (191.3 kN)
Intermediate Thrust (in pounds): 28,000 (128.1 kN)
Length: 220 inches (5.59 meters)
Inlet Diameter: 46 inches (1.17 meters)
Maximum Diameter: 51 inches (1.30 meters)
Bypass Ratio: 0.57 Overall Pressure Ratio: 28

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Short Take Off and Vertical Landing STOVL Propulsion System Design

Maximum Thrust (in pounds): 43,000 (191.3 kN)

Short Takeoff Thrust: 38,100 (169.5 kN)
Hover Thrust: 39,400 (175.3 kN)
Main Engine: 15,700
Lift Fan: 20,000
Roll Post: 3,700

Length
Main Engine: 369 inches (9.37 meters)
Inlet Diameter: 46 inches (1.17 meters)
Lift Fan: 50 inches (1.27 meters)

Maximum Diameter: 51 inches (1.30 meters)

Bypass Ratio
Conventional: 0.56
Powered Lift: 0.51

Overall Pressure Ratio
Conventional: 28
Powered Lift: 29

F-35 Fast Facts July 17 2012

Unread postPosted: 04 Aug 2012, 04:50
by energo
F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts
July 17, 2012.

Unread postPosted: 06 Aug 2012, 22:31
by SpudmanWP
21 March 2012
F-35 Program Status and Weapons Roadmap
Precision Strike Annual Review 2012

Author: Col Mark Werth Director, Air System Requirements
Original Location: Available Here

Highlights:
1. 2012 Objectives (pg 12)
2. Per-Blk Weapon Certification (pg 4-6), including UK Weapons
3. Blk 4 weapons (pg 7) to include new cannon rounds and the Turkish SOM (JSOW equiv)
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Unread postPosted: 06 Aug 2012, 23:40
by spazsinbad
Thanks SWP. My Acrobat Reader 10.1.3 generates an error message on page 3 indicating perhaps that information is missing from that page. Anyway here is another example page (edited) from same PDF. Page 3 (with error message not shown) also attached. Plus now 'candidate weapons for Block 4' page attached.

Unread postPosted: 06 Aug 2012, 23:48
by SpudmanWP
Page 3 looks like that for me and I get no errors (version 10.1.3)

Unread postPosted: 07 Aug 2012, 00:01
by spazsinbad
OK thanks. Probably a 'font thing' I'll mess around with whatever I can (currently testing Acrobat 11 which generates same message also). Using Windows 7 64 bits and I can test it in Windows 8 wappidywap 64 bits candidate BETA release. Too much info I'm sure. :D

Unread postPosted: 17 Aug 2012, 03:03
by spazsinbad
Facts of much Fastness by LM 2012 13aug:

http://f-35.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/ ... 3-2012.pdf

"On July 17, the first CV flight with Block 2A software was conducted.
&
On August 6, AN-1, the first Netherlands F-35, and AF-20 flew for the first time."

Unread postPosted: 18 Sep 2012, 04:30
by spazsinbad
Joint Tactical Data Enterprise Services (TDES) Migration Plan (JTMP) 2009

http://idlsoc.com/Documents/Symposiums/ ... s_OASD(NII).pdf (5.4Mb)

Unread postPosted: 01 Oct 2012, 10:05
by fang
spaz just 4 u :)
Management of Australia’sAir Combat Capability—F-35A Joint Strike Fighter Acquisition - Sep' 27, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/107874602/12/ ... agreements

Unread postPosted: 08 Oct 2012, 13:03
by spazsinbad
Fast Facts Maam - nothing but the facts maam - nothing but the facts:

F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts September 5, 2012

http://f-35.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/ ... 5-2012.pdf (164Kb)

Unread postPosted: 21 Oct 2012, 03:10
by spazsinbad
Just the Facts - nuttin' but da facts....

F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts October 15, 2012

http://f-35.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/ ... 152012.pdf (150Kb)

"...On October 3 [2012], STOVL variant achieved 350 vertical landings to date...."

F-35 Program Status and Fast Facts 11 Nov 2012

Unread postPosted: 13 Nov 2012, 10:33
by spazsinbad
F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts November 11, 2012

Original here: http://f-35.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/ ... 1-2012.pdf

Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 21 Nov 2012, 21:07
by energo
Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat.

Original: LINK

/BB

RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 26 Nov 2012, 21:32
by SpudmanWP
Modeling and Simulation Applied in the F-35 Program
Presented by: Barry Evans, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics
2/3/2011

RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 13 Dec 2012, 21:29
by SpudmanWP
F-35 Fast Facts for Dec 11th, 2012

http://f-35.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/F-35-Fast-Facts-December-11-2012.pdf

Previously unreported Tidbits:
-- On November 3, CF-2 flew an HMD Jitter FTR mission completing first pilot evaluation.
-- On November 14, during setup for a 45,000 ft test point, AF-4 flew to 50,000 ft, the design altitude limit. This is the first time F-35 has flown to 50K.
-- On November 30, BF-1 accomplished the longest duration F-35 hover at 10 minutes.
-- On December 3, BF-1 accomplished its 200th vertical landing at PAX and completed maximum weight hover, vertical landing and 90 degree translation on December 6.

RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 13 Dec 2012, 22:19
by Prinz_Eugn
10 minutes of hover! That's crazy.

RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 05 Feb 2013, 03:52
by f-22lm

RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 05 Feb 2013, 06:39
by spazsinbad
This would be it:

F-35 durability testing overview 29 Jan 2013

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... ity#242415

Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 14 Feb 2013, 17:34
by energo
F-35 Fast Facts February 12 2013

Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 14 Feb 2013, 18:30
by KamenRiderBlade
Prinz_Eugn wrote:10 minutes of hover! That's crazy.


Reminds me of "Live Free or Die Hard" where the F-35 was hovering for that long

RE: Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 14 Feb 2013, 18:44
by spazsinbad
Over 6,000 hours these days and counting.

RE: Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 25 Feb 2013, 23:14
by spazsinbad

RE: Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 25 Feb 2013, 23:31
by spazsinbad
F-35 Logistics & Sustainment Overview Brief Gp Capt Pete Grinsted RAF Deputy Director of Logistics & Sustainment 13 Nov 2012

http://www.sae.org/events/dod/presentat ... erview.pdf (1Mb)

RE: Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 26 Feb 2013, 00:32
by SpudmanWP
Here are a few that I found

10/3/2012 - Range Requirements and F-22/35 assessment

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2012targets/WMcCoy.pdf

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11/25/2012 - F135 Integration Issues

http://jet-engine-lab.technion.ac.il/11 ... m/f135.pdf

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RE: Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 26 Feb 2013, 00:38
by spazsinbad
F-35 Lightning II: Global Integration and Management of 21st Century Fighters
Dr. Michael R. Jahadi, P.E. Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company November 28, 2012

http://www2.epmtech.jotne.com/simdm/doc ... 8-2012.pdf (11Mb)

http://www.f-16.net/attachments/f_35ins ... on_160.gif

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RE: Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 26 Feb 2013, 00:56
by spazsinbad
Some excellent graphics in the recent SWP find above: 10/3/2012 - Range Requirements and F-22/35 assessment: http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2012targets/WMcCoy.pdf (3.8Mb)

Eventually performance chart duplicated (pick one) and here is some more stuff:

http://www.f-16.net/attachments/f_35day ... ys_502.gif
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http://www.f-16.net/attachments/f_35mul ... rs_124.gif

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RE: Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 26 Feb 2013, 03:24
by spazsinbad

RE: Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 26 Feb 2013, 03:43
by spazsinbad
Bit Dated But Some Good Historical Stuff:

Paris Air Show June 2011 Major General C. D. Moore, Deputy Program Executive Officer/Tom Burbage, Executive Vice President, F-35 Program

http://www.scribd.com/doc/58444309/01-P ... 2011-Final (PDF 2.8Mb)

Re: RE: Design and Analysis of the ACES 5 Ejection Seat

Unread postPosted: 15 Mar 2013, 23:15
by energo
March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status.

Re: March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status

Unread postPosted: 18 Mar 2013, 23:33
by neptune
energo wrote:March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status.


Now we have the latest numbers and LM is disappointed that they are compelled to continue with 35 a/c per year on LRIP8.

This year;
2013 delivery LRIP5-32 a/c
2013 LM will have delivered 95 LRIP a/c; 49-A, 35-B, 11-C
2013 95 a/c at: Eglin 9(+6)-A, 13(+3)-B, (+11)-C; Yuma 3 (+16)-B; Luke (+22)-A; Edwards 6-A, 1-B; Nellis 4-A; Pax 1-B

In two years;
2015 LRIP7 will deliver another 71 a/c to Yuma, Luke and Eglin. 37-A, 12-B, 11-C; 11-Allies.

IOC for USMC at Yuma, maybe USAF at Luke.

In six years;
LRIP8 with 6 allied a/c. We have now added LRIP8-11 to deliver in 2019. LRIP9/10/11 undefined.

All this to ask a question, with the 6 LRIP8 a/c, 22 a/c will have been delivered to 5 countries. How long will the Allied countries wait for LM LRIPs to deliver replacement squadrons for their legacy a/c?

1- FW ramping up should be a major effort from the 30+/ year to what new rate by 2019?
2- The Italian facility is in startup for July 2013 will it take over the orders from the Euro/Asia allies, if so at what rate of production by 2019? Is Australia/ Japan/ Korea or Singapore to develop an equivalent facility to the Italian effort?
3- The allied orders are about 721 or 23% of the total 3,164 a/c, not including Spain, Korea or Singapore. That production capacity (25%) should have an impact on the quantity and pricing of F-35 components but at what rate of production by 2019?
4- When will the ten allies accept completion of their orders?

RE: Re: March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status

Unread postPosted: 23 Mar 2013, 17:10
by spazsinbad
FocalPoint Volume 15 Issue 1 Spring 2011 http://www.pointwise.com/focalpt/Focal- ... g-2011.pdf (1Mb)

Store Separations for F-35s Analyzed Using Grids Made With Gridgen
By Jae M. Lee and Alfred Piranian, Naval Air Systems Command,
and John Martel, Capt. Darrell Crowe, and Magdi Rizk, Air Force SEEK EAGLE Office

"F-35 pilots need the ability to jettison stores in the event of emergencies during takeoff (such as a cold catapult stroke or power plant problems), and emergencies in landing configuration (such as during Short Take-Off and Vertical Landing - STOVL mode approach). No wind tunnel data have been obtained for store separation in the STOVL mode, with landing gear extended and vectored thrust from the lift fan propulsion system...

...The joint team consisting of NAVAIR, AFSEO, and Lockheed Martin engineers has worked together successfully to take a CFD approach to support issuance of flight clearances that provides for STOVL emergency jettison of stores. The CFD models were validated and applied to a couple of STOVL conditions. The CFD analyses showed that STOVL emergency store ejection looks safe and benign for configurations and conditions investigated."

RE: Re: March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status

Unread postPosted: 23 Mar 2013, 17:52
by spazsinbad
Synopsis of Lecture to RAeS Loughborough Branch on 08 Mar 2011
Martin-Baker: the JSF story so far by Steve Roberts, JSG IPT Lead, Martin-Baker Aircraft Company Ltd

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.oller ... 20seat.pdf (157Kb)

"...The ejection seat was required to be common to all three aircraft variants. It was also required to have superior ejection performance to all previous seats, meet new neck injury criteria and provide an auto-ejection capability when used in the F-35B (STOVL) aircraft. The last requirement demanded early firing of the ejection seat in the event of an aircraft malfunction in a manner similar to that used in the Russian YAK 36, 38 and 141 aircraft....

...Neck protection is provided by means of a “Catcher’s Mitt” inflatable device which supports both sides of the pilot’s helmet and also provides support to the top and /back of the helmet. This device is also held in a container located behind the pilot’s head. The device is vented before the parachute is deployed. The device has been tested and proved to inflate under simulated 50,000 ft altitude conditions....

...The F-35-B (STOVL) aircraft has additional failure modes associated with Lift Fan, Vane Box, Lift Fan Drive Shaft, Roll Duct and Turbine failures. A typical pilot takes two seconds to react to the ejection klaxon or one second if warned in advance of a likely failure. In the case of a STOVL related failure, ejection must take place within 0.6 seconds. Hence it was necessary to install smart failure sensors on the aircraft to automatically fire the ejection circuit mounted in the back of the seat...."

RE: Re: March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status

Unread postPosted: 22 Apr 2013, 14:32
by spazsinbad
New CF-35 Lightning II brochure 15 Apr 2013

http://f-35.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/ ... ing-II.pdf (2.36Mb)

RE: Re: March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status

Unread postPosted: 30 Apr 2013, 09:22
by spazsinbad
F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts April 15, 2013

https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... _facts.pdf (400Kb)

RE: Re: March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status

Unread postPosted: 23 Jun 2013, 04:19
by spazsinbad
Naval Aviation Maintenance Officer Symposium 28-30 June 2011

http://www.amdo.org/JSF_Program_and_33_FW_Updates.pdf (3.4Mb)

RE: Re: March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status

Unread postPosted: 24 Aug 2013, 22:30
by spazsinbad
F-35 Fast Facts 06 Aug 2013: https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... _facts.pdf attached

"Since December 2006, F-35s have flown more than 5,800 flights and accrued more than 8,900 cumulative flight hours. This total includes 91 flights from the original test aircraft, AA-1; 3,242 SDD test flights; and more than 2,490 production-model flights.'

RE: Re: March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status

Unread postPosted: 25 Aug 2013, 19:41
by spazsinbad
Thanks to 'joost' ( http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-24471.html ) here is a 09 July F-35 Canadian PDF brief:

http://www.westdef.com/presentations/20 ... Knotts.pdf (09 July 2013 5.8Mb)

RE: Re: March 14 2013 Fast Facts and Program Status

Unread postPosted: 14 Sep 2013, 12:14
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts PDF 09 Sep 2013: https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... _facts.pdf (180Kb)

F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts September 9, 2013
"Program Status
SDD flight test activity totals for 2013 as of Aug 31, are provided below:
- F-35A Flight Science aircraft have flown 186 times
- F-35B Flight Science aircraft have completed 236 flights
- F-35C Flight Science aircraft have flown 143 times
- The Mission Systems Test Aircraft have flown 224 times

Since December 2006, F-35s have flown more than 6,000 flights and accrued more than 9,000 cumulative flight hours. This total includes 91 flights from the original test aircraft, AA-1; 3,384 SDD test flights; and more than 2,658 production-model flights."

Unread postPosted: 19 Oct 2013, 11:27
by energo
Program Status

SDD flight test activity totals for 2013 as of Sept. 30, are provided below:

o F-35A Flight Science aircraft have flown 208 times
o F-35B Flight Science aircraft have completed 260 flights
o F-35C Flight Science aircraft have flown 168 times
o The Mission Systems Test Aircraft have flown 262 times

Since December 2006, F-35s have flown more than 6,500 flights and accrued more than 10,200 cumulative flight hours. This total includes 91 flights from the original test aircraft, AA-1; 3,493 SDD test flights and more than 3,000 production-model flights.

Unread postPosted: 27 Oct 2013, 18:58
by energo
Detailed Bogdan program update, February 2013.

/Bjørnar

Unread postPosted: 27 Oct 2013, 20:24
by spazsinbad
Thanks for the PDF 'energo' a couple of graphics from it attached.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2013, 20:00
by spazsinbad
100th F-35 'Fast Facts' 13 Dec 2013 wot I made into a PDF attached.

An interesting factoid I do not recall seeing before:
"...The F-35A is comprised of 280,000 individual parts while the F-35B is made up of 300,000. The F-35C consists of 290,000 individual parts. Despite their differences, the three variants are actually 80 percent common."

https://www.f35.com/news/detail/100th-f ... fact-sheet

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Feb 2014, 15:40
by flateric
Customer Keynote
Michael (Mike) Taylor
Director, Global Supply Chain F-35 Program, Aerospace Systems,
Military Aircraft Systems
SEA 2012

Affordable Manufacturing Technologies for the F-35 Lightning II
Dr. Don A. Kinard – NDIA Manufacturing Division , February 2012
LM Senior Fellow
Deputy, F-35 Fighter Production System

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Feb 2014, 18:15
by spazsinbad
Diagram from 2nd PDF above: Affordable Manufacturing Technologies for the F-35 Lightning II

http://www.ndia.org/Divisions/Divisions ... Kinard.pdf (5Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 17 Mar 2014, 20:32
by spazsinbad
F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts 18 Feb 2014

SOURCE: https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... ry2014.pdf (182Kb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 22 Aug 2014, 19:35
by spazsinbad
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: Store Separation Flight Test and Analysis
2013 Chris Hetreed Lockheed Martin Aeronautics
2013 MSC Software Users Conference May 7-8, 2013 Irvine, CA


Source: http://pages.mscsoftware.com/rs/mscsoft ... alysis.pdf (4.0Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 25 Oct 2014, 00:30
by spazsinbad
08 Oct 2014 LM Fast Facts PDF attached: https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... tober_2014).pdf (also posted here today but probably any updates should go here eh): viewtopic.php?f=58&t=26592&p=280576&hilit=factoids#p280576

This URL seems the place to go to get monthly updates: https://www.f35.com/media-kit

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 13 Nov 2014, 00:35
by spazsinbad
New NOV 2014 Fast Facts attached from here: https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... er2014.pdf

It is to be noted that LM do not archive these PDFs so it will be best for this forum to archive them here as necessary. Tah.
"...Since December 2006, F-35s have flown more than 23,000 cumulative flight hours...."

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 13 Nov 2014, 01:25
by sprstdlyscottsmn
115 aircraft and 23,000 hours... WOW!

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 20 Dec 2014, 17:45
by spazsinbad
Fast Facts 08 Dec 2014 from attached: https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... ember_2014).pdf (63Kb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 08 Jan 2015, 07:45
by eskodas
Anyone have the SARs from before 2009? especially interested in 2003, 2005 and 2007

Edit: Nevermind, got the more barebones versions from here http://www.acq.osd.mil/ara/am/sar/

Edit: Based on SAR made this http://i.imgur.com/gTCvwX4.png and this is also one i made a while back http://imgur.com/PgFiDY9 showing economy of scales, that the pushback in LRIP shifted the support cost increase to delayed years and URF, UNRF and UNRF + Support differences or if that's too much information just the FY2015 SAR http://imgur.com/Ewzq5jk

Edit: Including URF prices from 2001+ http://i.imgur.com/Xyrx9Lz.png

Cheers Spudman!

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 08 Jan 2015, 09:03
by SpudmanWP

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 08 Jan 2015, 13:25
by quicksilver
SpudmanWP wrote:Here is the 1996 to 2007 F-35 SAR

http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/logistics_m ... resent.pdf


Lotsa fun things to note in the first doc at the link. I'll start with the CTOL 1K# weapon vice the 2K# weapon now specified.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 22 Jan 2015, 17:53
by eskodas
Anyone have the document for this

DOTE 2014 Live Fire Test and Evaluation
F-35B Full-Scale Structural System Vulnerability Assessment

AAA and missile fragment-induced damage stressed
the structural limitations of the forward fuselage fuel
tanks (F-1 and F-2). Cascading effects from the F-1 tank
damage included a large fuel release into the cockpit and
damage to the pilot seat mounting structure. To mitigate
the vulnerability to the pilot, the Program Office has
recently altered the F-35B fuel burn strategy so that the
F-1 tank behind the pilot empties sooner. Threat-induced
damage in these fuel tank tests also caused large fuel
discharge into the engine inlet, which would have likely
caused engine failures due to fuel ingestion. The engine
was not installed for these tests.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 22 Jan 2015, 20:31
by spazsinbad
The full F-35 DOTE 2014 report is here: http://www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/FY2 ... f35jsf.pdf (0.8Mb)

While a three page edited version of pages 41 & 42 PLUS pp 56-58 is attached below. [ 3 pages TOTAL ]

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 15 Apr 2015, 17:09
by energo
F-35 December 2014 Selected Acquisition Report (SAR)

Source:
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/downloads/doc ... 014%27.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Apr 2015, 03:45
by spazsinbad
F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts
23 April 2015 LM Dept of Prop Agenda

"...Since December 2006, F-35s have flown more than 30,000 cumulative flight hours...."

Source: https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... 2q2015.pdf (66Kb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 24 Apr 2015, 10:41
by gabriele
eskodas wrote:Anyone have the document for this

DOTE 2014 Live Fire Test and Evaluation
F-35B Full-Scale Structural System Vulnerability Assessment

AAA and missile fragment-induced damage stressed
the structural limitations of the forward fuselage fuel
tanks (F-1 and F-2). Cascading effects from the F-1 tank
damage included a large fuel release into the cockpit and
damage to the pilot seat mounting structure. To mitigate
the vulnerability to the pilot, the Program Office has
recently altered the F-35B fuel burn strategy so that the
F-1 tank behind the pilot empties sooner. Threat-induced
damage in these fuel tank tests also caused large fuel
discharge into the engine inlet, which would have likely
caused engine failures due to fuel ingestion. The engine
was not installed for these tests.



There are chances of learning a lot more about this test in a future edition of the Joint Aircraft Survivability Journal. It carried some very nice articles on the F-135 Live Fire survivability tests, and on the AA-1 live fire tests. I hope they will write about BG-1 live fire tests too, at some point.

http://jaspo.csd.disa.mil/asnewsletter.html

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 12 May 2015, 07:12
by weasel1962
April 2015 GAO report. Not reported much by press probably because no major negatives noted.

http://www.gao.gov/assets/670/669619.pdf

Pg 17/18: Aircraft deliveries for last 2 contract years = 3.6 months late on average (which is not significant). Aircraft deliveries: 9 (2011), 30 (2012), 35 (2013) & 36 (2014) <- should not include SDD as SDD was delivered before 2011. This suggests LM may have caught up into lot 7 deliveries already by today. Could see Israel receiving its first F-35A soon.

Pg 19: Labor hours downward trend.

Pg 21: Still facing supplier late and quality issues but not affecting delivery rates.

Pg 11: 2B/3i - 3 months behind schedule. 3F - 6 months behind schedule (not significant)

Pg 5: Costs on overall downward trend.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 12 Jun 2015, 20:45
by SpudmanWP
September 1994 DoD report (137 pages) going deep into the thoughts, requirements, and timelines of JAST.

Just in case you were wondering and despite popular opinion, STOVL was part of the program BEFORE Congress merged it with CALF.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a292094.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 12 Jun 2015, 23:32
by spazsinbad
'SWP' what a great find - many thanks for this. The original PDF is not 'text readable' I have made it so and if anyone requires a 'text readable' PDF for 'copy/paste' then please say so. Meanwhile here is the summary (copy / pasted).
REPORT OF THE DEFENSE SCIENCE BOARD TASK FORCE ON JOINT ADVANCED STRIKE TECHNOLOGY (JAST) PROGRAM
SEPTEMBER 1994

"EXECUTIVE SUMMARY A. INTRODUCTION
In 1993, with a new administration and significant changes in the national security environment, the Office of the Secretary of Defense initiated a Bottom-Up Review (BUR) to address the balance among budget priorities, national military strategy, and forces. Initially, the BUR defined a broad range of future contingencies that could require U.S. military forces-land, sea, air, and space-and a force level to meet those contingencies.

At that time, there were plans to acquire four new aircraft over the next decade and a half-the Air Force's F-22 and Multi-Role Fighter (MRF), and the Navy's F/A-18E/F and A/F-X. In addition, a Science and Technology program was under way at the Advanced Research Projects Agency focusing on the Marine Corps requirement for an Advanced Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing (ASTOVL) aircraft.

The Air Force's F-22 was envisioned as the means to sustain an adequate margin of air superiority capability over any future adversary. The MRF was designed to be the future mainstay multi-mission sortie generator in the Air Force inventory. The F-16-currently filling that role-is expected to reach the end of its useful service life 15 years hence.

The Navy's needs were more immediate. First was a more capable, longer-range variant of the F/A-18 for use by both the Navy and Marine Corps. The F/A-18E/F program was well into development. Second, the cancellation of the A-12 in 1991 left the Navy with the unfulfilled requirement for first-daysurvivable, stand-alone, longer-range strike capability. The AIF-X was to satisfy that requirement.

The ASTOVL program objective was to produce one or more test articles to demonstrate improved short/vertical take-off and landing capabilities that could satisfy the Marine Corps requirement more substantially than could the AV-8B. It might also fill some future Navy ship-based aircraft needs. A second conventional take-off and landing variant configured with additional fuel tanks in place of the ASTOVL's lift propulsion was envisioned for possible use by the Air Force.

The BUR's deliberations reviewed the need for these programs and whether they were affordable. The BUR found that there were not enough resources to support all these programs in the Future Years Defense Program. Still, there was a valid need for the diverse capabilities they were intended to provide. The decision was to continue with the F-22 and F/A-18E/F programs and to cancel the AIF-X and MRF. The decision on ASTOVL was to continue that research, but to require some commitment of resources by at least two of the three Services before building a flying prototype.

The BUR also confirmed the Services' continuing needs that were to be addressed by the cancelled A/F-X and MRF programs. That led to establishing the Joint Advanced Strike Technology Program in July 1993. Throughout the remainder of this summary and in the full report, this program is referred to simply as JAST.

In an Appendix to its November 1993 report on Tactical Air Warfare, the Defense Science Board (DSB) provided some early suggestions to the Under Secretary of Defense (Acquisition & Technology) on the structure and focus for the JAST Program. Subsequently, in April of 1994, the Defense Science Board was asked to form a Task Force to examine several areas in more detail - “the structure of JAST; the schedule, sequencing of activities, emphases and levels of effort appropriate; innovative, high payoff concepts for inclusion in the program; and the acquisition strategy for aircraft that might result.” This report responds to that request and addresses the nine questions in the Terms of Reference (TOR) memorandum (signed 10 May 1994). The TOR is at Appendix A.

The Task Force saw the JAST organization and approach as a special situation in which the limited though important purpose was to address advanced next-generation strike systems needs. The Task Force went to some lengths to ensure that responses were focused on the terms of reference specifically for the JAST program. At the same time, most of the Task Force's work is applicable to a far wider range of acquisition policy and management issues. The Task Force strongly recommends that this work be used in that broader context as well as in support of the specific purposes of JAST.

The Task Force first convened in April of 1994 and met periodically through early September. The Task Force members are listed in Appendix B. The meeting schedule and other events are listed in Appendix C."
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"2. Multi-Service Requirements
The Task Force reviewed the work of the Services, the BUR, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the JAST Program Office, and previous DSB efforts to gain appreciation and understanding of mission needs and requirements for next-generation strike systems. More definition of broad requirements is needed to lead to JAST products with characteristics that will provide useful military options to help meet diverse challenges to U.S. national interests in the post-cold war environment.

Analysis and the lessons of recent history suggest that key JAST requirements for new aircraft should include the capability to (I) operate with minimum support in the theater, (2) operate in small formations or a single aircraft with minimum or no close escort or penetrating supporting elements, (3) operate in high threat areas with minimum attrition, and (4) deliver precision weapons that provide high lethality against a variety of targets, while precluding unwanted collateral damage. Further, noting the diversity and global nature of the possible future challenges to U.S. interests, we stress the importance of a family of advanced strike capabilities available from land- and sea-based options.

The Task Force considered requirements from two perspectives-sustaining force levels (quantity) and force modernization (quality). Needs are grouped into three time periods; near-, mid-, and far-term, with JAST-based products addressing the mid-term. There are shortfalls in sustaining force levels in the near-term before the planned IOC of a JAST-based aircraft (2007-2010), but the magnitude of that problem is not compelling, as there are procurement, remanufacture, or service life extension options that can meet Services’ needs to sustain the force.

The key need for JAST-based products is force modernization in the mid-term. The Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps presented diverse needs. The Navy requirement is for a “first-day-survivable, stand-alone, strike fighter” - a capability they need today. However, in the absence of a near-term solution, that is a need to be addressed by JAST. The Air Force requirement is for a future replacement for the F-16, their current “multi-role sortie generator.” The timing of that need is consistent with a plausible IOC for a JAST-based next-generation strike fighter. The Marine Corps is seeking a STOVL aircraft with better payload and survivability than that of the AV-8B. As with the Air Force, the timing of the Marine Corps’ requirement fits the achievable JAST schedule.

These diverse requirements are difficult to reconcile in a multi-Service vehicle. The Task Force supports the need for the FA-18E/F to fill the near-term need for a Navy multi-mission, sortie producer. However, that solution defers satisfying the Navy’s need for a “high-end” strike aircraft. We are concerned with the projected 15-year wait for a Navy strike aircraft that would have adequate first-day survivability while delivering precision weapons.

The Task Force did not attempt to present a particular solution or to stipulate particular requirements. The Task Force did emphasize that there will be no solution to multi-Service strike system needs until joint requirements are better defined.

The Task Force found that the numbers of new aircraft needed to sustain force levels in all three Services require that there be revolutionary improvements in aircraft affordability. Figure ES-2 summarizes findings and recommendations."
&
"...• JAST-based aircraft should be designed to leverage the strike architecture to include off-board systems

• The Services should consider subordinating the marginal safety issues of one vs. two engines to affordability and commonality

• JAST should quickly sort out the relative merits of incremental improvements from the two person crew and the added affordability of a single cockpit design

• JAST also should quickly sort out the need for internal vs. external carriage of weapons against the range of scenarios, threats, and targets addressed..."
&
"......The issue of one vs. two engines also will be difficult to resolve with convincing logic. There have been many studies on the subject. Most show a safety edge for two engines given rough equality in mission and operating conditions but none of the studies is conclusive. So, one versus two engine decisions have been primarily based on thrust needs rather than on safety. The F-14, F-15 and F-18 needed the thrust from two engines. The F-16 did not. The STOVL design virtually dictates a single high-thrust engine. In any case, the Task Force concluded that, with modem engine reliability, the one vs. two engine question is not a conclusive flight safety issue. Affordability and performance should be the drivers.

Given the range of thrust output of available modern engines, it might be wise to consider simply mandating single engine designs because of affordability...."
&
"...The perception is that stealth designs are fragile and expensive to maintain. The past decade has seen significant progress in creating more durable, environmentally friendly materials. Similarly, enhanced designs have been developed to reduce the maintenance of openings and apertures in LO systems.

Limited resources have not allowed any significant updates to the F-117 to reduce the supportability cost due to LO. The B-2 was designed to further reduce the cost of LO maintenance, and its performance is just beginning to emerge as the system gains operational experience. The F-22 is being designed to even further reduce the LO maintenance cost while significantly reducing the overall supportability burden.

The JAST should support demonstrations in both laboratory and operational environments that will validate the robustness of today's most promising LO materials and designs...."

Source: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a292094.pdf (5.1Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Aug 2015, 06:09
by spazsinbad
Latest FAST FACTS from LM re F-35 as at 22 Jul 2015 (3Q in their jargon):

https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... 3q2015.pdf (70Kb)

Attached below because these things disappear eventually.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Oct 2015, 14:48
by spazsinbad
Latest LM FAST FACTS dated 22 Oct 2015 - 4th quarter in their jargon from attached:
"F-35 Delivery Status
162 F-35s have been delivered to the Department of Defense as of Oct. 20:
• 142 Low Rate Initial Production (LRIP) Aircraft
o 81 F-35As (including four international aircraft)
o 43 F-35Bs (including three international aircraft)
o 18 F-35Cs

• 20 System Development and Demonstration (SDD) aircraft complete the test and development fleet:
o Edwards AFB, Calif. - four F-35As.
o PAX River NAS, Md. - five F-35Bs and four F-35Cs.
o This count includes six static aircraft and AA-1 stationed around the world."


https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... q2015_.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 08 Feb 2016, 20:59
by Smithsguy
The DOT&E 2015 F-35 Annual Report (as recently and oft referenced)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 16 Feb 2016, 16:18
by spazsinbad
LM Fast Facts dated 01 Feb 2016: https://www.f35.com/assets/uploads/down ... 1q2016.pdf (63Kb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Apr 2016, 14:49
by luke_sandoz
LockMart speaks via SLD.

Download all 70+pages at the bottom of the page

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Apr 2016, 15:40
by spazsinbad

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:04
by talkitron

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Apr 2016, 21:58
by spazsinbad
Thanks - looks as though only a minor change to front page (author names added) has been made, with same no. of pages.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Apr 2016, 05:23
by playloud
Selected Acquisition Report (SAR) - Dec 2015

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Apr 2016, 07:04
by spazsinbad
From above SAR for F-35 the F-35A Operating Cost (as explained in Gif & same same PDF attached):

download/file.php?id=22832
"...Given the significant increase in military capabilities provided, it is reasonable to expect F-35A to cost more to operate and sustain than 4th generation legacy aircraft."

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 13 May 2016, 23:20
by spazsinbad
Next Installment of FAST FACTS - 2nd Quarter 2016, 09 May 2016 - just the facts ma'am nothing but the facts - attached.
"...F-35s have flown nearly 60,000 cumulative flight hours since Dec. 2006...."

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 2q2016.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 15 Jun 2016, 22:27
by playloud
Wouldn't let me upload as attachment.

http://www.fisher.org.il/2016/Adir%20Po ... yNorth.pdf

It looks like a presentation from Gary North (VP of Customer Requirements for LMA) to Israel on the F-35.

What I find of interest is a stated figure of 760 nmi for combat radius in an internal A2A configuration (page 7).

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 15 Jun 2016, 22:38
by spazsinbad
File size limit is 11Mb AFAIK so PDF should be uploadable. I'll give it a go... BTW this PDF with range graphic first mentioned here by 'SWP' viewtopic.php?f=58&t=24027&p=341582&hilit=North#p341582

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 16 Jun 2016, 17:43
by spazsinbad
Country by country summary of F-35 interest/involvement five page PDF attached.
F-35 LIGHTNING II COUNTRY-BY-COUNTRY ANALYSIS
July 2016 Aviation News, Tom Kaminski

"Lockheed Martin has developed the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) to fulfill multiple missions. It is produced in three basic versions: the conventional take-off and landing (CTOL) F-35A, the short take-off/vertical landing (STOVL) F-35B and the carrier variant (CV) F-35C. So far 12 customers have announced plans to acquire the Lightning II, as Tom Kaminski explains....

...Production deliveries began in 2011 and by the end of March 2016, Lockheed Martin had delivered 162 aircraft comprising 92 F-35A, 28 F-35B and 22 F-35C models with 229 F-35s currently under contract. More than 250 pilots and 2,400 maintainers from six nations have been qualified through the F-35 training units..."

Source: Aviation News July 2016

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 06 Jul 2016, 18:50
by spazsinbad
'bayernfan' posted a link to a WiB Axe article that cites this PDF attached:

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=48322&p=346170&hilit=David#p346170

AFOTEC Technology Challenges 03 Jul2016

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2016Test/OT&EPanel.pdf (3.1Mb)

And just because reading is not boring earlier 'gideonic' had posted a link to more or less the same Axe article which was rehashed later to be cited by 'bayernfan' with the PDF link wot is here. Geddit? Don't worry it is just axe recycling stuff.

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=25623&p=345702&hilit=David#p345702

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 06 Jul 2016, 19:09
by bojack_horseman
Is there video transmission to ground troops?
Like the ROVER system?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 07 Jul 2016, 01:45
by SpudmanWP
bojack_horseman wrote:Is there video transmission to ground troops?
Like the ROVER system?


Block 4

Remember that Rover did not even exist when the F-35 started development & planned out the Block schedule.

If it was that important to the Services then they would have inserted it into Block3F.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2016, 19:05
by spazsinbad
Latest 3rd Quarter LM F-35 Fast Facts dated 13 Sep 2016 attached

"F-35s have flown more than 68,000 cumulative flight hours since Dec. 2006."

Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... q2016_.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 10:00
by zero-one
spazsinbad wrote:Latest 3rd Quarter LM F-35 Fast Facts dated 13 Sep 2016 attached

"F-35s have flown more than 68,000 cumulative flight hours since Dec. 2006."

Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... q2016_.pdf


Just a few things on the specifications table,

The Empty weight is listed as 29,300 for the A model,
but here
https://timemilitary.files.wordpress.co ... pdf#page=3
it was already put down to 29,098 lbs.

I know some jets may have small weight increases as time goes by as maintenance crews reinforce some parts of the plane on a specific aircraft, but wouldn't the graph show the standard weight when it rolls off the production plant.

Also, uninstalled thrust ratings are on 40,000 lbs, but here
http://www.pw.utc.com/Content/Press_Kit ... _pCard.pdf
it says 43,000 lbs uninstalled.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 10:09
by spazsinbad
We have been over these issues a few times now. TIME? What a joke - disregard. P&W I give in. LM statistics have to be a gold standard - otherwise there are no standards. Yes the weight of an empty aircraft (what does empty mean - and yes we have been over that also) will vary so best to wait for the Full Rate Production weights eh. But it is all good fun but please start a new thread for your fun or add to an existing thread about 'WEIGHT' please. Tah. Search using 'empty + weight' or whatever terms suit you to get some wild & woolly posts. What does it all mean? NATOPS/DASH One will say.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 13:52
by Dragon029
zero-one wrote:Just a few things on the specifications table,


The Lockheed figures are just the threshold minimum requirements of the airframe; the SAR and DOT&E reports have the actual current performance / spec figures.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 18:52
by neptune
Dragon029 wrote:
zero-one wrote:Just a few things on the specifications table,


The Lockheed figures are just the threshold minimum requirements of the airframe; the SAR and DOT&E reports have the actual current performance / spec figures.


...do you care to add those links???? please..... :)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 19:02
by SpudmanWP

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 21:26
by spazsinbad
The only reference to 'weight' found in the Dec 2015 SAR is RCLW Required Carrier Landing Weight.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 22:36
by Dragon029
neptune wrote:
Dragon029 wrote:
zero-one wrote:Just a few things on the specifications table,


The Lockheed figures are just the threshold minimum requirements of the airframe; the SAR and DOT&E reports have the actual current performance / spec figures.


...do you care to add those links???? please..... :)


The SAR mainly just covers things like range and footprint (from page 16 onwards), the 2015 DOT&E report (released earlier this year) is on the previous page of this thread.

In the DOT&E report, page 11 has the F-35A's current empty weight of 28,999lb, on page 12 it has the F-35B's current empty weight of 32,442lb, on page 13 it has an estimate of the current F-35C's weight (a weight estimate of the first LRIP 8 F-35C, based on the measured weight of all the F-35's individual components) at 34,582lb.

As Spaz mentioned, the Lockheed Fast Facts have featured these discrepant / minimum figures for ages.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 22:46
by spazsinbad
And I'll repeat - until full rate production the weights will change and change again.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 23:17
by quicksilver
IIRC, F-35 had to meet spec weights at LRIP7. We are well beyond the first LRIP7 delivery -- without fanfare.

OWEs will increase for the life of the program, as they do in all programs.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 06 Oct 2016, 16:12
by SpudmanWP
The old URL for the 1996-FY2008 SAR is offline.

Here is the new home and I attached it just in case it goes dark again.

http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/Reading_Roo ... resent.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 31 Jan 2017, 00:25
by spazsinbad
F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts [ATTACHED]
30 Jan 2017 LM PR

"...LRIP 9 Aircraft Costs (including jet, engine and profit):
o 42 F-35As CTOL - $102.1 million/jet
o 13 F-35B STOVL - $131.6 million/jet
o--2 F-35C CV-- - --$132.2 million/jet...


...F-35s have flown more than 80,000 cumulative flight hours since December 2006.

Current as of Jan.30, 2017

Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... n_2017.pdf (86Kb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 31 Jan 2017, 01:44
by steve2267
F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts
30 Jan 2017 LM PR


F135-PW-100
40,000 lbs Max.
25,000 lbs Mil.
Vertical N/A

F135-PW-600
40,000 lbs Max.
25,000 lbs Mil.
40,500 lbs Vertical


Current as of Jan.30, 2017

Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... n_2017.pdf (86Kb)


Did the engine specs change? Or has someone in the PR department simply gotten lazy? Or did they mean "40,000 lbs Max. thrust class"

P&W F135 engine website still lists the CTOl variant as

Engine Characteristics
Maximum thrust class 43,000 pounds (191.3 kN)
Intermediate thrust class 28,000 pounds (128.1 kN)
Length 220 inches (5.59 m)
Inlet diameter 43 inches (1.09 m)
Maximum diameter 46 inches (1.17 m)
Overall pressure ratio 28
Source: http://www.pw.utc.com/Content/Press_Kit ... _pCard.pdf (c)2016

and the STOVL variant as:

Engine Characteristics
Maximum thrust class 41,000 pounds (182.4 kN)
Intermediate thrust class 27,000 pounds (120.1 kN)
Short takeoff thrust class 40,740 pounds (181.2 kN)
Hover thrust class 40,650 pounds (180.8 kN)
Main engine 18,680 pounds (83.1 kN)
Lift fan 18,680 pounds (83.1 kN)
Roll post 3,290 pounds (14.6 kN)
Length 369 inches (9.37 m)
Main engine:
Inlet diameter 43 inches (1.09 m)
Max diameter 46 inches (1.17 m)
Lift fan:
Inlet diameter 51 inches (1.30 m)
Max diameter 53 inches (1.34 m)
Source: http://www.pw.utc.com/Content/Press_Kit ... _pCard.pdf (c)2016

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 31 Jan 2017, 02:21
by Dragon029
This was brought up literally on the previous page of this thread; they're minimum spec values.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 31 Jan 2017, 02:25
by steve2267
Dragon029 wrote:This was brought up literally on the previous page of this thread; they're minimum spec values.


Sorry. My bad.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2017, 06:11
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts March 2017 attached: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... r_2017.pdf (233Kb)
"...“F-35s have flown more than 85,000 cumulative flight hours since December 2006.”

_______________________

Have a laugh at CanadaDahian Entry in the LM F-35 Program Status March 2017 attached:
https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... march_2017).pdf (358Kb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 25 Mar 2017, 23:03
by spazsinbad
Message sent to LM....
The latest F-35 GM weekly update PDF is not the right one. It is an old - one year out of date - PDF. The date is supposed to be 3/13/17 however the link is to one dated 3/17/16. Someone has dyslexia. :-)

AT: https://www.f35.com/resources/general-m ... kly-update:

RONG PDF: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... _17_16.pdf (0.67Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Apr 2017, 05:28
by spazsinbad
LM still has the same stupid one year old LM GM PDF - e-mailing them about it brings no result - what a bunch of fwits. Then there are the 'revised' March Fast Facts and Program Status 'revised' attached. What is revised? Dunno.

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... evised.pdf

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... march_2017)-revised.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 22 May 2017, 13:36
by spazsinbad
F-35 Lightning II Program Status and Fast Facts
12 May 2017 LM PR

"F-35s have flown more than 90,000 cumulative flight hours since December 2006."

Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... _2017_.pdf (0.37Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 03:00
by spazsinbad
:doh: :devil: This li'l lot snuck in late I reckon - probably juggling the USMC upgraded numbers of F-35Bs I reckon. :doh: :roll:
F-35 Lightning II Program Status [ATTACHED]
June 2017 Created 13 Jul 2017 Alison Orme

United States Marine Corps
Program of record: 366 F-35Bs/67 F-35Cs

United States Navy
Program of record: 260 F-35Cs

United States Air Force
Program of record: 1,763 F-35As -------- [Grand Total = 2,456]

Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... (june_2017).pdf (0.5Mb)

_______________________________
LM F-35 Fast Facts 08 Jun 2017 [ATTACHED]
13 Jul 2017 "Rein, Michael J (US)"

"...F-35s have flown more than 95,000 cumulative flight hours since December 2006....

...Program of Record
USAF 1,763 F-35As DoN (USN/USMC) 693 F-35B/Cs" [= 2,456 total]

Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... _2017_.pdf (0.34Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 03:18
by Dragon029
The new Selected Acquisition Report has finally been leaked:

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 03:32
by spazsinbad
Thanks 'Dragon029'. Some numbers have changed....

Estimated Combat Radius NM for F-35A = 669
Estimated Combat Radius NM for F-35B = 505
Estimated Combat Radius NM for F-35C = 640

[Addition which will be repeated elsewhere]
"F-35 Unit Cost Dec 2016 SAR
The DoD average F-35 Aircraft Unit Recurring Flyaway (URF) Cost consists of the Hardware (Airframe, Vehicle Systems,
Mission Systems, and Engineering Change Order) costs over the life of the program. The URF assumes the quantity
benefits of 132 FMS aircraft and 609 International Partner aircraft.

The current estimate for F-35 total procurement quantity increased from 2443 to 2456. This is the result of an increase of 13 F-35B aircraft to be procured by the United States Marine Corps (USMC). The increase is reflected in both the aircraft and engine subprogram and results in a change from 680 to 693 in the Department of Navy Aircraft Procurement accounts. The USMC validated this requirement through the Marine Corps Requirements Oversight Council (MROC). The additional aircraft are fully funded and the funding is reflected in the FY 2018 President's Budget submission. The additional aircraft were added after the completion of the congressionally directed Department-wide fighter mix study. The strategic review will assess future tactical fighter force inventory requirements across the Department.

F-35A (Conventional Take Off and Landing) URF - $67.7M (BY 2012)
F-35B (Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing) URF - $77.1M (BY 2012)
F-35C (Carrier Variant) URF - $78.1M (BY 2012)"

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 04:00
by SpudmanWP
Wait.. the A2G Combat radius is now LONGER for the F-35A??

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 04:18
by talkitron
Thanks for posting, Dragon.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 04:45
by spazsinbad
SpudmanWP wrote:Wait.. the A2G Combat radius is now LONGER for the F-35A??

KPP Key Performance Parameters One Page PDF now attached.
[SAR Dec 2016] "Change Explanations
(Ch-1) Operational Requirements Document (ORD) Change 3 dated August 19, 2008 as modified by JROC Memorandum 040-12 dated March 16, 2012. For Demonstrated Performance, extensive flight test data was used to calibrate the aero-performance model. The values listed herein as “Demonstrated Performance” are based on the final aero-performance model (up-and-away) for the F-35A and F-35B."

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 08:07
by blindpilot
spazsinbad wrote::doh: :devil: This li'l lot snuck in late I reckon - probably juggling the USMC upgraded numbers of F-35Bs I reckon. :doh: :roll:
F-35 Lightning II Program Status [ATTACHED]
June 2017 Created 13 Jul 2017 Alison Orme

United States Marine Corps
Program of record: 366 F-35Bs/67 F-35Cs
.....
Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... _2017_.pdf (0.34Mb)


Gotta Love it!!!!

BP

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 15:29
by playloud
New production schedule based on this latest SAR...

2007 - USAF=2 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=2
2008 - USAF=6 : USN/USMC=6 : Total=12
2009 - USAF=7 : USN/USMC=7 : Total=14
2010 - USAF=10 : USN/USMC=20 : Total=30
2011 - USAF=22 : USN/USMC=10 : Total=32
2012 - USAF=18 : USN/USMC=13 : Total=31
2013 - USAF=19 : USN/USMC=10 : Total=29
2014 - USAF=19 : USN/USMC=10 : Total=29
2015 - USAF=28 : USN/USMC=10 : Total=38
2016 - USAF=47 : USN/USMC=21 : Total=68
2017 - USAF=48 : USN/USMC=26 : Total=74
2018 - USAF=46 : USN/USMC=24 : Total=70
2019 - USAF=48 : USN/USMC=29 : Total=77
2020 - USAF=48 : USN/USMC=36 : Total=84
2021 - USAF=54 : USN/USMC=45 : Total=99
2022 - USAF=54 : USN/USMC=45 : Total=99
2023 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=45 : Total=105
2024 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=45 : Total=105
2025 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=45 : Total=105
2026 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=45 : Total=105
2027 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=45 : Total=105
2028 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=45 : Total=105
2029 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=45 : Total=105
2030 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=39 : Total=99
2031 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=24 : Total=84
2032 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=3 : Total=63
2033 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2034 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2035 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2036 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2037 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2038 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2039 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2040 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2041 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2042 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2043 - USAF=60 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=60
2044 - USAF=27 : USN/USMC=0 : Total=27

Total - USAF=1763 : USN/USMC=693
Grand Total = 2456

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 18 Jul 2017, 21:00
by spazsinbad
Not being Amerikan nor marginally numerate/literate I find a lot of gubmint docs OPAQUE - nice summery/summary here.
Total Acquisition Estimate for F-35 Rises to $406.5 Billion
12 Jul 2017 Bill Carey

"...In a summary of the SAR released on July 11, the Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) provided cost estimates in both 2012 base-year and current—also known as then-year—dollars, with the latter metric containing inflationary increases expected over the duration of the program. The SAR estimates represent only U.S. costs, but take into account cost efficiencies gained from the contributions and procurements of F-35 partner nations and foreign military sales, the JPO said. The latest SAR reflects program cost, schedule and performance as of June 2016.

F-35 acquisition cost, a figure that includes the cost of research, development, test and evaluation, procurement and military construction, rose by $11.3 billion to $324.6 billion in base-year dollars. Total program cost, which adds operating and support costs over the life of the fighter, increased from $934.1 billion to $945.4 billion in base-year dollars.

The Air Force has reduced its maximum annual rate of F-35A procurement from 80 fighters to 60, which extended its timeline of planned purchases by six additional years to Fiscal Year 2044. The reduced annual buy and time extension drove the total acquisition cost increase, caused the uptick in unit recurring flyaway (URF) cost and also slightly increased average procurement unit cost (APUC) and program acquisition unit cost (PAUC) metrics, the JPO said.

In current-year dollars, the estimated URF cost of the F-35A increased from $100.6 million in SAR15 to $111.3 million in SAR16. The estimate for the U.S. Navy’s F-35C increased from $110.7 million to $112.4 million, and the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B from $122.9 million to $123.4 million...." [NO MENTION OF INCREASED USMC F-35B BUY BY 13]

Source: http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ ... 65-billion

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 15 Sep 2017, 23:24
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts dated 14 Sep 2017 PDF attached from: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... t_2017.pdf (0.3Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Sep 2017, 19:58
by eloise

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Sep 2017, 20:29
by SpudmanWP
That is a list of everything that has ever been found. It in no way represents what needs to be updated on each airframe as many of the fixes are folded into the production line as they are found.

Re:

Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2017, 20:18
by viper12
Hi all.

Sorry for resurrecting this very old post :

spazsinbad wrote:F-35 Weapon System Overview Doug Hayward - Deputy Director F-35 Vehicle Systems - Lockheed Martin Aeronautics

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2010armament/T ... ayward.pdf (4 Mb) Public Release JSF 10-205 4/14/10


Is there any information available about a possible integration of the CBU-99/100 Rockeye II internally ? I'm asking this specific question because I was discussing (for a video game) a scenario where the F-35 would be used to stealthily drop leaflets while collecting ISR data over a reclusive dictatorial country...

And the PDU-5/B is a Rockeye II repurposed for leaflet delivery from high-performance aircraft : http://www.psywarrior.com/dissemination.html

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2017, 20:30
by SpudmanWP
Your link is dead... Use

https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovclou ... ayward.pdf

To answer your question, no, there is no info.

This Fall/Winter we expect the JPO to finalize the Block 4.1 plan and I am hoping UAI makes it. This will allow for an exponential expansion of weapons to be used while not requiring Block upgrades to do so.

Re: Re:

Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2017, 20:47
by white_lightning35
viper12 wrote:


Is there any information available about a possible integration of the CBU-99/100 Rockeye II internally ? I'm asking this specific question because I was discussing (for a video game) a scenario where the F-35 would be used to stealthily drop leaflets while collecting ISR data over a reclusive dictatorial country...l


Sounds too complicated... Kill em all and let God sort it out. :mrgreen:

Re: Re:

Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2017, 20:53
by SpudmanWP
viper12 wrote:Sorry for resurrecting this very old post :


There is a thread for that:
viewtopic.php?t=27643&p=296946

Re: Re:

Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2017, 21:01
by viper12
SpudmanWP wrote:There is a thread for that:
viewtopic.php?t=27643&p=296946


This link mentions internal carriage for the CBU-97/105. Dunno if there's a difference with the CBU-99/100.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 22 Sep 2017, 21:15
by SpudmanWP
My point was that the resurrection of the topic THERE would have been more appropriate rather than a thread about official documentation.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Oct 2017, 13:28
by cavok
SpudmanWP wrote:That is a list of everything that has ever been found. It in no way represents what needs to be updated on each airframe as many of the fixes are folded into the production line as they are found.


you sure?
The modification funding requested in the 2017


Seems to be credits asked to retrofit planes?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Oct 2017, 13:48
by spazsinbad
cavok wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:LM F-35 Fast Facts dated 14 Sep 2017 PDF attached from: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... t_2017.pdf (0.3Mb)


Canada 65 F-35As
...

Current as of September 14, 2017
Produced by Lockheed Martin F-35 Communications Team


These guys are really excellent jokers...

The PDF clearly states Program of Record. Canada still participates and pays fees for the F-35 and Canada has not withdrawn from the program. What else can be done? This P of R is official government data.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Oct 2017, 04:02
by SpudmanWP
cavok wrote:you sure?
Yes.


It's a common manufacturing practice.

Just look at the annual Per-Plane estimates. Earlier planes are more expensive to update because there is a large number of fixes that need to be done post-production. Later planes are cheaper to update because most of the issues were done as a matter of updating the part during production.

Image

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Oct 2017, 20:15
by SpudmanWP
F-35 Sustainment

Average AVA/ME rates for a year ending in March2017 per Lot

Image


Who does what work on the F-35

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Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Oct 2017, 20:53
by marauder2048

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Oct 2017, 21:06
by talkitron
The GAO report is just a draft audit so that news story is the information so far.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Oct 2017, 21:18
by SpudmanWP
Just a reminder, this thread is for PDFs, DOCs, PPTs, etc that are released from official sources such as the DoD/JPO/GAO or from a contractor like LM, NG, BAE, etc.

If you would like to comment on what is posted, feel free to either start a new thread or add a post to an existing thread with an applicable subject.

It was created in order to have a central place to upload (rather than just link) files due to sites often breaking links when they reformat so that our post can link to internal documents without any issue.

Thank you for your understanding.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 23 Oct 2017, 21:26
by marauder2048
Apologies. Just provisioning a place for it when it's officially released.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 26 Oct 2017, 12:42
by spazsinbad
This 6 page PDF extract about 'F-35 sustainment worldwide & ALIS' goes here - interview with F-35 Program Manager VADM Winter from AIR International Nov 2017.
F-35 Lightning II Starting Worldwide Sustainment
Nov 2017 David C Isby

"David C Isby spoke with Admiral Mat Winter, the new F-35 Program Executive Officer, about sustaining the fifth-generation fighter

Before his retirement last July after a gruelling five-year tour of duty as the F-35 Program Executive Officer (PEO) in charge of the Joint Program Office responsible for the development of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, US Air Force Lieutenant General Christopher Bogdan issued a warning that the programme could still go “off the rails”. Bogdan identified the biggest single risk: “I am worried about our ability to sustain these airplanes globally, with the numbers and locations we’ll have in 10-15 years … there’s going to be an awful lot of airplanes in an awful lot of places in an awful lot of configurations.” Sustainment will account for most of the F-35’s costs – 66 to 75% of the total – over the life of the programme.

Speaking in Washington DC on September 6, Bogdan’s successor as F-35 PEO, Vice Admiral Mat Winter explained that to manage costs, the United States, international F-35 partners and Foreign Military Sales customers are linked in to a global sustainment enterprise that will grow to provide repair, sustainment and support capability for a global F-35 fleet that will eventually number over 3,000 aircraft. He said: “We are sustaining aircraft right now. F-35s will be operating from 13 new operating locations worldwide in the next four years, with aircraft numbers increasing to almost 1,000.” It will be, Winter said, “an exciting time to be the PEO”.

Earlier this year, Lockheed Martin’s Vice President of F-35 business development and strategic integration, Jack Crisler said: “By the end of the year F-35 flight operations would be under way in Italy, Israel and Norway, with the transition from CONUS-based [continental United States-based] sustainment to an international capability … An ADM [acquisition decision memoranda] signed last year describes how global sustainment is going to work.”...

...Speaking at the Air Force Association convention at National Harbor, Maryland on September 19, Lieutenant General Arnold Bunch, the Air Force’s top uniformed acquisition officer said: “For F-35 sustainment, we have put rules in place that everyone agreed to, so they can’t say there are problems. Our biggest focus is to drive down the F-35’s operating cost. We continue to work with Lockheed Martin and their partners to keep cost under control.”...

...Until 2017, F-35 operational logistics and sustainment experience had primarily been with the US armed services. US Marine Corps F-35Bs, participating in Exercise Red Flag this summer, were able to fly 67 of 70 scheduled sorties. US Navy F-35Cs completed 41 sorties in 19 days on board the aircraft carrier USS George Washington. In the final round of developmental testing sea trials in 2016, F-35Bs completed 60 sorties in 21 days on board the amphibious warfare ship USS America. Commenting on the at sea periods, Jack Crisler said: “Lockheed Martin worked with the Marine Corps on how the service can manage its own deployable spares during shipboard deployments.”..."

Source: AIR International Nov 2017 Vol.93 No.5

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 27 Oct 2017, 22:20
by spazsinbad
F-35 Aircraft Sustainment: DOD Needs to Address Challenges Affecting Readiness and Cost Transparency
26 Oct 2017 GAO

"What GAO Found
The Department of Defense (DOD) is sustaining over 250 F-35 aircraft (F-35) and plans to triple the fleet by the end of 2021, but is facing sustainment challenges that are affecting warfighter readiness (see table). These challenges are largely the result of sustainment plans that do not fully include key requirements or aligned (timely and sufficient) funding. DOD is taking steps to address some challenges, but without more comprehensive plans and aligned funding, DOD risks being unable to fully leverage the F-35's capabilities and sustain a rapidly expanding fleet."



Source: https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-18-75

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Nov 2017, 05:12
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts 01 Nov 2017 PDF attached. "110,000 flight hours - 250 F-35 aircraft delivered"

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... v_2017.pdf (1.2Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Dec 2017, 04:11
by spazsinbad
FACTS of much FASTNESS from LM PR dated 07 December 2017 PDF of two pages attached from:

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 2017_1.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Dec 2017, 04:18
by white_lightning35
Am I missing something or did they reduce the range and thrust values? Didn't other SAR's put the A and C models range above what this says. And regarding thrust, perhaps LM just decided to round a lot?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Dec 2017, 04:27
by spazsinbad
By 'they' I'll presume LM PR? Go back in this thread to see old specification graphics from the same source. Notice changes?

Latest SAR is on previous page this thread & 'Dragon029': viewtopic.php?f=58&t=12237&p=353206&hilit=footprint#p353206

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Dec 2017, 05:58
by SpudmanWP
Given that Block 3F jets are being sent to operational units, when do you think they will update these specs with Block 3F data?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Dec 2017, 06:29
by spazsinbad
You could try e-mailing these contacts (at bottom of 2nd PDF page above):

"For additional questions and the latest data, please contact" Carolyn Nelson ( carolyn.nelson%40lmco.com?subject= ) or Mike Friedman ( Michael.1.friedman%40lmco.com?subject= )

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Dec 2017, 07:07
by weasel1962
white_lightning35 wrote:Am I missing something or did they reduce the range and thrust values? Didn't other SAR's put the A and C models range above what this says. And regarding thrust, perhaps LM just decided to round a lot?


These are the standard "official" figures provided by LM since day 1. Its meant to be generic for general publication purposes. No one would bother to publish continual updates to change numbers everytime an engine churns out 200lbs more thrust due to a tweak. Range figures are also dependent on actual usage at differing heights etc. Its like a car whose fuel consumption that changes depending on how hard one presses the accelerator, the roads travelled and the loads carried.

I have the ol' brochures for the F-16 and boy are they different from the actuals today...

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 06 Jan 2018, 13:15
by spazsinbad
LM Fast Facts 05 Jan 2018 attached: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... n_2018.pdf (1.1Mb)

120,000 flight hours

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 01 Feb 2018, 20:19
by spazsinbad
02 Feb 2018 LM F-35 Fast Facts PDF, graphic: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... _2018_.pdf (1.1Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Feb 2018, 21:53
by spazsinbad
Probably an error or new information caused the LM F-35 Fast Facts to be updated to the fifth of February 2018 edition. For example one change is there are now 560+ pilots trained instead of the old 550+. 'Play :mrgreen: LOUD' below does not get a cigar because that 'MAINTAINER' Number is the same in BOTH February 2018 editions. AND... there was a grammatical text error corrected on top of page two - Spotify it if youse can.... :doh: :devil:

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 018__2.pdf (1.1Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Feb 2018, 21:56
by playloud
spazsinbad wrote:Probably an error or new information caused the LM F-35 Fast Facts to be updated to the fifth of February 2018 edition.

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 018__2.pdf (1.1Mb)

Maintainers went from 5000+ to 5600+.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 19 Feb 2018, 20:16
by flateric

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 19 Feb 2018, 20:55
by neptune
playloud wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:Probably an error or new information caused the LM F-35 Fast Facts to be updated to the fifth of February 2018 edition.

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 018__2.pdf (1.1Mb)

Maintainers went from 5000+ to 5600+.


....any idea of Maintenance (even approximates!) breakouts US/ Allies, US Services???
Please!
:)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 19 Feb 2018, 21:20
by spazsinbad
'flateric' that pptx/pdf looks familiar and may be attached somewhere on this forum already but anyway attached below.

BTW thanks for the PDF. Had a look - could not find that particular one by GIGLIOTTI USN 25 Oct 2014 F-35C Brief.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 20 Feb 2018, 01:17
by white_lightning35
Seeing graphics like that makes me realize the f-35 packs an awful lot of stuff into a relatively itty-bitty frame. Most impressive.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 24 Feb 2018, 19:28
by stereospace

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 13 Mar 2018, 02:47
by spazsinbad
Another month - another 13 Mar 2018 LM FAST FACTS: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... _2018_.pdf (1.2Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2018, 09:03
by spazsinbad
LM Fast Facts 03 April 2018: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 4-18_2.pdf (1.1Mb) attached.

130,000 hours

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2018, 09:58
by gideonic
spazsinbad wrote:
130,000 hours

It also seems that the production target for 2018 was raised to 91 from 90 aircraft.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Apr 2018, 19:06
by playloud
FY19 SAR

https://www.scribd.com/document/3757516 ... -FY19-2017

From a quick overview, changes from last year include a demonstrated combat radius of 670 nmi for the F-35C (vs last year's 640 nmi estimate) They also moved the production of five F-35A from 2023 to 2044, and two F-35B/C (unknown which) from 2021-2022 to 2031.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Apr 2018, 19:37
by spazsinbad
https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scribd.com%2Fdocument%2F375751665%2FJSF-Selected-Acquisition-Report-FY19-2017

https://www.scribd.com/document/3757516 ... -FY19-2017 [copy/paste THIS correctehvu URLyWurly]

This is URL but ADD h at beginning:

ttps://www.scribd.com/document/37575166 ... -FY19-2017 [right mouse click & copy]

h ttps://www.scribd.com/document/37575166 ... -FY19-2017 [remove space after h]

BUT IT has a WATERMARK all over it ffsake? There must be better examples out there already for sure.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Apr 2018, 01:38
by Dragon029
Both of the above urls weren't really working, so I've just attached the file below - I'll remove the watermark tonight.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Apr 2018, 01:58
by spazsinbad
Thanks Dragon. I can remove the watermark (with Acrobat 2017 Pro) so I'll do that and re-attach here soonish....

addition from below post by dragon
YEAH I get confused by the number/years etc. I'm glad someone in the USofA knows how thisall works including DATES!

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Apr 2018, 02:11
by Dragon029
I just realised we've both uploaded the old FY2018 .pdfs to this site; I can't download the FY2019 one just yet (bring_it_on doesn't have downloading enabled on this file), but here's the file from the source anyway; I'll remove the watermark later:

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Apr 2018, 07:25
by Dragon029
And here's a version without the watermarks:

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Apr 2018, 07:50
by spazsinbad
Thanks for that. I'll have to remember that 2018 SAR is fiscal year 2019 or die trying - probably the latter, OUTRAGEOUS!

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Apr 2018, 16:12
by playloud
Thanks for the fixes and removing the watermark. I only had the one link, and posted it while I was at work.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Apr 2018, 06:06
by weasel1962
Noted discrepancy between navy procurement quantities (pg 46 of SAR) with contract values (pgs 87/89 of SAR) after lot 8. Lot 9 and 10 per navy funding was for 10 and 21. Lot 9 per contract was 42-A, 13-B (7 non-US) and 2-C so 8 instead of 10. Lot 10 per contract was 78-A, 14-B (5 non-US)and 2-C so 11 instead of 21 resulting in a net difference of 13. Lot 11 appears back to consistency, if final, as contract negotiation for 18-B, 8C appears consistent with 26 per navy funding until an amendment changed the total procurement from 74 to 91.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 20 Apr 2018, 16:05
by SpudmanWP
Latest CRS report:


The F-35 is currently in low-rate initial production, with 280 aircraft delivered as of April 2018. At least 250 of those were in U.S. service. Four to five aircraft are currently delivered each month, with the production rate scheduled to increase to 120 per year by 2019. In keeping with the acquisition plan that overlapped development and production (known as “concurrency”), the F-35 was also in system development and demonstration (SDD), with testing and software development ongoing, from October 2001 until April 11, 2018. The SDD phase will formally continue until the end of Initial Operational Test and Evaluation, when a “Milestone C” full-rate production decision will be made.

Much more at the jump (Report attached)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL30563.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 May 2018, 15:12
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts 09 May 2018: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 2018_2.pdf (1.1Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 14 May 2018, 16:45
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts 14 May 2018: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... y_2018.pdf (1.1Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Jun 2018, 20:32
by marauder2048
F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER: Development Is Nearly Complete, but Deficiencies Found in Testing Need to Be Resolved

https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-18-321

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Jun 2018, 20:40
by SpudmanWP
The GAO should be renamed the COC (Captain Obvious Committee).

The JPO is already working on them and the first C2D2 drop is scheduled in about a month.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 14 Jun 2018, 09:50
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts 13 Jun 2018: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... e_2018.pdf (1.1Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 20 Jun 2018, 16:29
by doge
http://aviationweek.com/combat-aircraft ... ernization
Congress Maintains Support For F-35 Production And Modernization
Jun 14, 2018 Jen DiMascio | Aviation Week & Space Technology
Despite lingering concerns about development of the Pentagon’s $406 billion F-35, the U.S. Congress is poised to pour money into production, retrofits and a new set of software upgrades. The fifth-generation fighter manufactured by Lockheed Martin is rapidly approaching a series of important milestones. Initial operational test and evaluation (IOTE) is scheduled to start in September or October and run through the summer of the following year. Meanwhile, the Navy’s F-35C variant ...

GAO...

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 20 Jun 2018, 17:24
by lamoey
doge wrote:http://aviationweek.com/combat-aircraft/congress-maintains-support-f-35-production-and-modernization
Congress Maintains Support For F-35 Production And Modernization
Jun 14, 2018 Jen DiMascio | Aviation Week & Space Technology
Despite lingering concerns about development of the Pentagon’s $406 billion F-35, the U.S. Congress is poised to pour money into production, retrofits and a new set of software upgrades. The fifth-generation fighter manufactured by Lockheed Martin is rapidly approaching a series of important milestones. Initial operational test and evaluation (IOTE) is scheduled to start in September or October and run through the summer of the following year. Meanwhile, the Navy’s F-35C variant ...

GAO...


Meanwhile, the Navy’s F-35C variant is to be declared operational by February 2019. And by October of 2019, the Pentagon intends to declare the F-35 fully operational.

But it faces challenges in getting there. The U.S. Government Accountability Office’s (GAO) 2018 report on the program points out that before it hits that final production decision, the Pentagon will need to “resolve critical deficiencies.”

Congress is likely to provide money to help that effort. The House Appropriations Committee is so flush it has approved $674.6 billion for the Defense Department in fiscal 2019. And while times are good, the committee plans to allot even more money for F-35 procurement and development than the government requested—$9.4 billion to buy 93 F-35s, which is 16 more aircraft than the administration asked for. And the defense subcommittee, led by Republican Rep. Kay Granger, who represents the Fort Worth, Texas, district where the Joint Strike Fighter is made, recommends spending $1.2 billion for continued development and modernization of the F-35. The bill, approved by the full appropriations committee June 13, must still be passed in the House and reconciled with a companion bill in the Senate.

With that money, the Defense Department still has a lot of work to do. The Pentagon did not initially agree to “fix” all deficiencies with the fighter until after the production decision. Instead, the Pentagon agreed to “resolve” the issues raised in the report. The semantic difference between “resolve” and “fix” allows the Pentagon more flexibility to find alternative solutions rather than simply technical corrections, the military says. “Accordingly, we revised our recommendation,” the GAO noted, urging that the program “resolve” the issues before full-rate production.

Vice Adm. Mat Winter, program executive officer of the F-35 program, elaborates, saying that the U.S. and its international partners track and prioritize the program’s difficulties. “The Department of Defense expects the F-35 program to resolve all critical deficiencies prior to entering Initial Operational Test and Evaluation, with either a fix, a Service Operational Test Agency-approved work-around or a formal acceptance of the deficiency,” Winter says. After operational test and evaluation, the Defense Acquisition Executive will review the program for full-rate production, which would include a plan for any issues that would be deferred until after development of the program officially ends.

Even the hint of allowing potential design flaws to linger into full production gives good-government organizations such as GAO pause, given the F-35’s history. The program embarked on initial production before testing was complete. That practice, known as concurrency, has cost the government at least $1.4 billion. Already, 213 F-35s need retrofits to fix issues spotted during training, and by the time IOTE is completed, the program office estimates 501 aircraft will have been produced. Failing to fix deficiencies before full-rate production could add additional costs, the GAO said.

The GAO wants the F-35 Joint Program Office to identify the steps needed for the combat aircraft to meet reliability and maintainability requirements. The program is close to meeting targets for four of its metrics, but it is still not measuring up, and its performance changed little over the last year, according to the GAO.

Greg Ulmer, general manager of the F-35 program for Lockheed Martin, says the F-35’s reliability keeps improving. “Newer aircraft are averaging greater than 60% availability, with some squadrons consistently at or above 70% availability,” he says. “All variants of the F-35 are currently exceeding the reliability specifications at this point on the maturity growth curve. We support the need for a robust reliability and maintainability program to ensure improvements stay on track to enhance readiness and reduce cost.”

The Senate Armed Services Committee version of a defense policy gives the program a gentle scolding—seeking quarterly updates on the program as it faces sustainment, modification and modernization issues, since the number of aircraft is planned to triple over the next three years. And although the committee is “concerned by the enormous retrofit costs required on the program,” it will authorize additional funding.

In addition to ongoing technical issues, the GAO is urging Congress to withhold money for the start of the F-35’s next big software upgrade, known as Block 4. The Defense Department is asking for $273 million for the modernization effort. The GAO would like Congress to fence funding to compel a report that would provide an independent cost estimate for the upgrades, technology readiness assessments, plans for test and evaluation and systems engineering, a preliminary design review and an approved acquisition strategy.

The Senate is not withholding money to compel the F-35 Joint Program Office to provide information about Block 4 modernization, saying it has received the business case information from the Pentagon. Retrofits to aircraft produced through the first eight production lots would cost $16 million each; F-35s produced in lots 9 and 10 would cost $13 million to upgrade. With that cost in mind, the Senate is now asking which F-35 the services intend to upgrade to the Block 4 configuration.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 03:28
by rheonomic
I don't know if this is the right thread to post this or not, but there's going to be a special track at the AIAA AVIATION conference next week on the F-35 design: F-35 Lightning II – From Concept to Cockpit

I believe each talk has a corresponding paper.

The F-35 is the most advanced fighter aircraft ever built. With stealth technology, advanced sensors, weapons capacity and range, the F-35 is the most lethal, survivable and connected fighter aircraft flying in the skies today.

For the first time ever, the F-35 Lightning II – From Concept to Cockpit speaker series, held at AIAA AVIATION FORUM, will provide a comprehensive, behind-the-scenes look at the government and industry effort to deliver the F-35’s transformational capabilities to men and women in uniform.

With 18 papers, presentations, videos and more, the team will tell the entire story behind what it took to design, develop, demonstrate, test and deliver the F-35.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 03:35
by popcorn
They should put it all on DVD.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Jun 2018, 03:50
by spazsinbad
rheonomic wrote:I don't know if this is the right thread to post this or not, but there's going to be a special track at the AIAA AVIATION conference next week on the F-35 design: F-35 Lightning II – From Concept to Cockpit

I believe each talk has a corresponding paper.

The F-35 is the most advanced fighter aircraft ever built. With stealth technology, advanced sensors, weapons capacity and range, the F-35 is the most lethal, survivable and connected fighter aircraft flying in the skies today.

For the first time ever, the F-35 Lightning II – From Concept to Cockpit speaker series, held at AIAA AVIATION FORUM, will provide a comprehensive, behind-the-scenes look at the government and industry effort to deliver the F-35’s transformational capabilities to men and women in uniform.

With 18 papers, presentations, videos and more, the team will tell the entire story behind what it took to design, develop, demonstrate, test and deliver the F-35.

Fantastic. Thanks for this. Looks like I'll have to spend some money on papers (PDFs).

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 26 Jun 2018, 07:27
by spazsinbad
"Tune in LIVE at 8 AM ET on June 26 as Skunk Works lead Jeff Babione gives a behind-the-scenes look at @thef35 during the @aiaa Forum: https://lmt.co/2trSdzC 24 Jun 2018 "

https://twitter.com/LockheedMartin/stat ... 2Fin-depth

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dge415vWkAA6d9C.jpg

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 26 Jun 2018, 18:17
by magitsu
spazsinbad wrote:
"Tune in LIVE at 8 AM ET on June 26 as Skunk Works lead Jeff Babione gives a behind-the-scenes look at @thef35 during the @aiaa Forum: https://lmt.co/2trSdzC 24 Jun 2018 "

That was a good one. Babione for one hour, then panel for two.

JPO FMS lead said in the panel that all parts are owned by the US Government until they reach the hands of partners or FMS customers.

There was an appearance that almost everything came down to cost-effectiveness. Whether your company was included in the program supply chain, in that spare part setup...

https://twitter.com/aiaa/status/1011585173174083584

https://twitter.com/TheWoracle/status/1 ... 0188044288

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 26 Jun 2018, 18:41
by spazsinbad

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 26 Jun 2018, 19:59
by SpudmanWP
@47:40 - New DAS unit = 5x the resolution! :drool:

I'll upload the videos to YT when I get home.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 26 Jun 2018, 23:13
by sprstdlyscottsmn
That explains double the range. Damn.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 27 Jun 2018, 02:22
by SpudmanWP
AIAA Aviation 2018 (Day 1)
Image





AIAA Aviation 2018 (Day 2)
Image


At the 20:10 mark:
  • A/C share the same engine
  • OFP is the same across all aircraft - it detects what version it is in
  • 2/3rds of LRUs are the same across all versions.
  • Global parts pool saves 30% in costs

At the 23:00 mark:
  • Air Superiority was planned from the beginning

At the 26:20 mark:
  • Most powerful fighter radar

At the 39:30 mark:
  • Final Test Program numbers
  • 9,200+ Test Flights
  • 65,000 Test Points
  • 183 Weapon Separation Tests
  • 46 Weapon Accuracy Tests
  • 33 Mission Effectiveness Tests
  • 140,000+ Flight Hours so far (Program Wide)

At the 43:10 mark:
  • $80mil Flyaway by 2020
  • 150 F-35s in 2020

At the 47:32 mark:
  • Over the next 10 years {Block 4+} there are 60 new hardware & software capabilities
  • New EODAS unit has 5x the resolution of Gen1 EODAS {at 55% of the cost & 5x reliability}
  • Auto-GCAS coming {before 2020}



The best info will be in the breakout sessions. Unfortunately, they will not be streamed.

The rest of the week's streams do not relate to the F-35 or LM.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 27 Jun 2018, 02:34
by spazsinbad
:applause: Thanks a bunch 'SWP'! :thanks:

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 27 Jun 2018, 06:39
by hornetfinn
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:That explains double the range. Damn.


It sure does which is really amazing since DAS is already has very unique capabilities that pretty much nobody else has. This upgrade might allow some totally new things to be done by the system. If nothing else, it will gather even more information as the system will cover eight times the air space (volume) than before... :shock:

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 27 Jun 2018, 14:50
by sprstdlyscottsmn
hornetfinn wrote:
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:That explains double the range. Damn.


It sure does which is really amazing since DAS is already has very unique capabilities that pretty much nobody else has. This upgrade might allow some totally new things to be done by the system. If nothing else, it will gather even more information as the system will cover eight times the air space (volume) than before... :shock:

Can the computers process all that data effectively? It's insane. As far as I can tell DAS out ranges even dedicated IRST systems even in Gen I. The is going to be a LOT of tracks, Friendly, Enemy, and Neutral.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 27 Jun 2018, 15:37
by SpudmanWP
Gen1 EODAS is only good in the WVR rangeband for fighter-sized objects, think 10 miles. CPU performance has more than outperformed a doubling in the last 20 years.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 27 Jun 2018, 16:12
by sprstdlyscottsmn
SpudmanWP wrote:Gen1 EODAS is only good in the WVR rangeband for fighter-sized objects, think 10 miles.

Based on what source though? I would intrinsically believe that if it weren't for claims of detecting and tracking artillery, rockets, and AA at those kinds of ranges and the imagery shows that it still has terrain detail at that range. It tracked a Falcon 7 out to 800nm. There is a dubious claim it detected an AIM-120 launch at 1,200nm. Just based on it's ability to detect clouds out to deep double digit ranges tells me a fighter at those ranges should be a piece of cake. It becomes a question of what range does the heat from an aircraft saturate the pixel it is being viewed by. There is too much available footage indicating that this system is vastly more capable than we would otherwise believe.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 27 Jun 2018, 16:42
by SpudmanWP
Based on what source though
That is all that has ever been claimed. Remember that this is being able to ID & track a fighter. AIMs & SAMs will obviously get picked up further out. TBMs will bet picked up even further out than that (bigger engine = hotter engine). Arty, rockets, etc are relatively easy due to it only needing to be a single point of IR light.

The 1200nmi AMRAAM track is BS for one simple reason, it is physically impossible. If the F-35 was at 40k feet then the AMRAAM would have to be at over 800k feet in order for it to get above the horizon at a range of 1200nmi (1380 miles).

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 27 Jun 2018, 17:20
by sprstdlyscottsmn
SpudmanWP wrote:That is all that has ever been claimed. Remember that this is being able to ID & track a fighter. AIMs & SAMs will obviously get picked up further out. TBMs will bet picked up even further out than that (bigger engine = hotter engine). Arty, rockets, etc are relatively easy due to it only needing to be a single point of IR light.

The 1200nmi AMRAAM track is BS for one simple reason, it is physically impossible. If the F-35 was at 40k feet then the AMRAAM would have to be at over 800k feet in order for it to get above the horizon at a range of 1200nmi (1380 miles).

I agree the AIM-120 quote is wrong, I assume by an order of magnitude at least. 120nm would be very impressive, even for just the launch plume, but it at least plausible.

Let me think here a moment. if a 200 pixel by 200 pixel array covers 90 degrees then each pixel covers a 0.45 degree swath of space. I'm not sure it works like that but it is what I have to go with. By 10nm that pixel is covering a 477x477ft space. A fighter fills a small portion of that, but it still illuminates the pixel due to its relative heat. Terrain and clouds and things may still be visible at longer ranges with less temperature difference due to sheer size, I suppose.

I guess I can accept 10nm against a mil power head on target, which would give something like 25-30nm against a retreating AB target. Hmm,

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jun 2018, 06:09
by Dragon029
Keep in mind that the numbers are going to be more around 1000x1000 pixels per sensor, each covering 95-120 degrees, meaning at 10nmi a pixel covers a max of roughly 127x127 feet.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jun 2018, 15:07
by sprstdlyscottsmn
I am assuming the total pixel count goes up by 5x, not the count in each row/column. This would be more like 447x447.

If we use your numbers however, then each one EODAS I pixel is divided into 14 EODAS II pixels.

If I go back to 200x200 and say 120deg FOV (I suppose they do overlap) we are down to 0.6 degrees per pixel, which at 10nm is a 637x637ft block of space. Going to 447x447 for the sensor is 0.27 degrees per pixel, which at 10nm is a 286x286ft block of space. That is 5x the resolution. At 20nm the 447x447px sensor yields 573x573ft, still somewhat better than the EODAS I at 10nm. Seems to follow a square root for range relative to resolution, so 5x resolution is a 2.23x range.

Does anyone even have a clue what the current resolution is? A Megapixel count or anything?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jun 2018, 17:03
by Dragon029
When I say 1000x1000, I'm talking about the current DAS; in the "Of DAS, EOTS etc.." thread it was discussed a couple of years ago how the DAS sensors were almost certainly using one of two FPAs from L3, one being a 1k (1000x1000) FPA (this one is most likely imo), the other being a 4k (2000x2000) FPA. Even if it were neither, you certainly wouldn't get the DAS imagery we've seen from a 200x200 sensor covering 90+ degrees.

A 5x resolution sensor would therefore be approximately 2240x2240.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jun 2018, 17:53
by sprstdlyscottsmn
Thanks Dragon. 2kx2k would give a 64X64ft cell at 10nm. A planview of an Eagle would nearly fill that and the exhaust plume, even in Mil, would trail into several more cells. 5 times that resolution would give a 29x29ft cell at 10nm. Even a head-on Viper will fill up a large portion of that. Assuming 120 degree FOV. This jives more with claimed detection ranges, but not the 20/40 display to the Helmet. Granted, I was assuming the Helmet display was EO/DAS resolution limited and that may be a very incorrect assumption. The more I think about it the less correct that assumption sounds.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Jun 2018, 08:53
by hornetfinn
Dragon029 wrote:When I say 1000x1000, I'm talking about the current DAS; in the "Of DAS, EOTS etc.." thread it was discussed a couple of years ago how the DAS sensors were almost certainly using one of two FPAs from L3, one being a 1k (1000x1000) FPA (this one is most likely imo), the other being a 4k (2000x2000) FPA. Even if it were neither, you certainly wouldn't get the DAS imagery we've seen from a 200x200 sensor covering 90+ degrees.

A 5x resolution sensor would therefore be approximately 2240x2240.


Correct. This L3 Cincinnati Electronics web page was source for that:
https://www2.l3t.com/ce/products/infrar ... format.htm

L3 Cincinnati Electronics is the industry leader in large-format MWIR with a decade of experience in providing IR technology for major programs such as the F/A-18 and F-35. In addition to our compact 1280 x 1024 and 2048 x 2048 pixel MWIR HD cameras, we are the only manufacturer with IR sensors of 16Mp (4096 x 4096 pixels) currently in use by U.S. assets in overseas combat zones.


That seems to imply that they used either the 1280x1024 or 2048x2048 detector in DAS. I think there was another statement by the company about manufacturing DAS detectors in factory that manufactures only those megapixel detectors. I think it's most likely that they used the lowest resolution 1.2 megapixel detector although I can't be sure. Incidentally almost all public DAS videos are recorded using 1280x720 resolution...

Five times the resolution is interesting statement as that does not directly fit any MWIR detector that I could find. Maybe that was not exact technical description but just general description about improved capabilties. Most likely new detector seems to be 2kx2k.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Jun 2018, 17:51
by lamoey
I don't know how much an MWIR detector can be compared to a DSLR sensor, but my 10 year old Nikon D300 have a 13MP sensor, while my new D850 has a 45MP sensor. Both cameras represents the top amateur camera from Nikon at the time. That's 346% improvement over 10 years. An unedited picture comes out at 8256x5504 pixel dimensions at 300dpi resolution and 24bit depth.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Jun 2018, 17:59
by sprstdlyscottsmn
How well would the Nikon hold up to 9G. Or buffeting? Mil-Spec gear is, by necessity, more robust and trails the civilian market.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Jun 2018, 19:21
by lamoey
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:How well would the Nikon hold up to 9G. Or buffeting? Mil-Spec gear is, by necessity, more robust and trails the civilian market.


I doubt G or buffeting has much influence on the sensor itself, but rather how it is mounted. The extreme temperature differences an aircraft is exposed to is a different matter though. The rest of the Nikon would likely fail fast. However, that's not the point. What I'm trying to get across is that image sensors have improved a lot in 10 years, so if the current DAS is closing on 20 years, an improved version should get an impressive boost in performance.

I have personally seen testing of an electronic component, where it failed the Mil-Spec test, but passed for civilian purposes. It was a component to the precursor to the JSM, the Pingvin missile.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Jun 2018, 19:28
by SpudmanWP
Keep in mind that a DSLR has many moving parts while the EODAS has none as it's a fixed-focus sensor.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Jun 2018, 23:51
by Dragon029
The main reason (as far as I'm aware) that infrared sensors like the DAS have a lower resolution than your typical DSLR, etc, is simply because (similar to radar antennas), infrared light (MWIR specifically) is roughly 10x larger in wavelength than visible light (around 8-9x larger than green light).

And so, in order to have sufficient collection of infrared light, as well as sufficient resolution, you have to use larger individual focal plane arrays with larger photoreceptors (pixels), a bit like how going from X-band to VHF you need larger antennas to have sufficient gain and in turn, a much larger antenna array to have similar angular resolution.

And so to have larger resolutions, you either:

1. Make larger focal plane arrays (which isn't easy, because in electronics, chips are made from wafers; circles of either silicon, gallium arsenide, indium antimonide, etc that multiple sensors and processors, etc are made from; when it comes to making computer processors, not all of the wafer will be perfect, so some of the processors cut out of it won't work, and so having larger chips that take up more of a wafer is riskier / more expensive to have acceptable / profitable yields), or...

2. Decrease the size of the pixels and try to manage the decrease in gain with improvements in sensitivity through adjustments to the substrate material, or by using improved signal / image processing (like with new smartphones), or by increasing optics to bring in more light and focus it onto the same smaller chips (this solution has issues of its own like increased weight, size & fragility, increased potential to damage the sensor, etc).

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 02 Jul 2018, 14:42
by Dragon029
Here are links to all of the 2018 AIAA Aviation Forum F-35 technical papers that were released:

Program Overview Papers:

F-35 Program History – From JAST to IOC (AIAA 2018-3366)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3366

F-35 Air Vehicle Configuration Development (AIAA 2018-3367)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3367

F-35 Air Vehicle Technology Overview (AIAA 2018-3368)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3368

F-35 Production – Advanced Manufacturing and the Digital Thread (AIAA 2018-3369)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3369

F-35 Weapons Design Integration (AIAA 2018-3370)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3370

F-35 System Development and Demonstration Flight Testing at Edwards Air Force Base and Naval Air Station Patuxent River (AIAA 2018-3371)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3371


Air System Design papers:

F-35 Structural Design, Development, and Verification (AIAA 2018-3515)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3515

F-35 Flight Control Law Design, Development and Verification (AIAA 2018-3516)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3516

F-35 Propulsion System Integration, Development & Verification (AIAA 2018-3517)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3517

F-35 Subsystems Design, Development & Verification (AIAA 2018-3518)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3518

F-35 Mission Systems Design, Development & Verification (AIAA 2018-3519)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3519

F-35 Information Fusion (AIAA 2018-3520)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3520


Test and Evaluation papers:

F-35 Carrier Suitability Flight Testing (AIAA 2018-3678)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3678
download/file.php?id=27706 [Courtesy of Spazsinbad]

F-35 Aerodynamic Performance Verification (AIAA 2018-3679)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3679

F-35 Weapons Separation Test and Verification (AIAA 2018-3680)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3680

F-35 STOVL Performance Requirements Verification (AIAA 2018-3681)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3681

F-35 Climatic Chamber Testing & System Verification (AIAA 2018-3682)
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/6.2018-3682


A 6th Test and Evaluation technical paper was also meant to be released (for a total of 18) called "F-35 High Angle of Attack Flight Control Development and Flight Test Results", but this paper doesn't appear in the list of those released at the conference: https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/book/10.2514/MATIO18

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 02 Jul 2018, 15:38
by SpudmanWP
Good job on that, thanks.

--Edit.. Joy, a paywall :bang:

Those at a college (or local library via OpenAthens login) should have access, hint, hint :roll:

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 02 Jul 2018, 17:23
by spazsinbad
PODcast at AvWeak by those who bin there talking about it - this one all about the F-35 - other things in later podcast:
Podcast: Hidden Gems at AIAA Aviation 2018
29 Jun 2018 Guy Norris and Graham Warwick

"Aviation Week’s Guy Norris and Graham Warwick have been in Atlanta, Georgia, for the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics’ Aviation 2018 conference. They talk about insights from the many panels and presentations and some hidden gems in the exhibition hall."

Source: http://aviationweek.com/future-aerospac ... ation-2018

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 02 Jul 2018, 20:17
by SpudmanWP
I just found out a FREE way to get the docs.

Use the OpenAthens login and search for your local library if you have a library card. OpenAthens also services many higher education colleges & universities.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 00:03
by Dragon029
I've found another means of downloading them all; I'll clean them up and upload them here later today.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 00:14
by rheonomic
spazsinbad wrote:PODcast at AvWeak by those who bin there talking about it - this one all about the F-35 - other things in later podcast


Far more fun actually attending (although there's a lot of boring stuff at AVIATION compared to SciTech). :D

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 01:41
by SpudmanWP
Dragon029 wrote:I've found another means of downloading them all; I'll clean them up and upload them here later today.

You mean I paid my 10+-year-old overdue fees to get my library card for nothing????? :doh:

-------Edit--------
Damn.... apparently I am going to need those after all. The library listed on the site is not "my" library even though they have the same name. :bang:

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 03:04
by sprstdlyscottsmn
Dragon029 wrote:I've found another means of downloading them all; I'll clean them up and upload them here later today.

Looking forward to it
*edit* hah, and there they are

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 03:07
by rheonomic
Dragon029 wrote:And that's all 17 released F-35 papers from the 2018 AIAA Aviation forum; still haven't seen any trace of that 18th paper about high angle of attack testing (not to be confused with one released back in 2014).

I think that was only an oral presentation.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 03:14
by spazsinbad
Great Effort 'Dragon029' and thank you for it.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 03:49
by SpudmanWP
Awsome, thanks

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 05:22
by Corsair1963
Excellent :D

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 07:59
by hornetfinn
That F-35 Information Fusion document is excellent description of how fusion is done in F-35 (and to lesser extent F-22) and how it differs from 4th and 4++ gen fighters (with correlation and track blending). It also describes the benefits of such fusion system very well, although I'm sure most people still don't really understand just how powerful a closed loop sensor fusion system is.

What I found particularly interesting was the description of how MADL supports sensor fusion in F-35. It seems to share astonishing amount of data compared to legacy data links and the quality of data is also something else. A single F-35 is extremely impressive ISR node. A flight of F-35s is an ISR monster...

Btw, thank you for providing these documents!

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 08:09
by SpudmanWP
I replied to the wrong thread :doh:

Moved to correct location
viewtopic.php?p=397333#p397333

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2018, 09:34
by Corsair1963
Still nothing......... :?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 06 Jul 2018, 20:57
by Smithsguy
Dragon029 wrote:Air System Design Papers:
...
F-35 Mission Systems Design, Development, and Verification 6.2018-3519.pdf

...


Not immune to "Error! Reference source not found" eh? 4 in this one.

Regards,
Smithsguy

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 07 Jul 2018, 00:03
by Dragon029
Yeah, there's also errors in the weapons loadout chart in the weapons development paper (placement of weapon symbols not matching the describing text). At least with the reference issue I'm 99% certain they're just references to Fig 2, Fig 6, Fig 7 and Fig 8.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 07 Jul 2018, 01:26
by spazsinbad
LM PR seems to have 'gone dead' of late, no updates on anything except now the FAST FACTS for 02 JULY 2018 - BELOW:

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... y_2018.pdf (1.1Mb)

145,000 hours - 650 pilots - 5,800 maintainers - 305 aircraft delivered 02 July 2018

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 07 Jul 2018, 03:28
by quicksilver
Really? SDD is complete; what is it LM is supposed to tell us?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Jul 2018, 02:58
by spazsinbad
Some great material (for my interest anyway & soon to be posted elsewhere in forum) is in History of the Program PDF:

F-35 Program History – From JAST to IOC 16 May 2018: download/file.php?id=27741 (PDF 5.6Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 17 Jul 2018, 03:39
by spazsinbad
Updated somewhere 02 JULY 2018 FAST FACTS: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 2018_2.pdf (1.1Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jul 2018, 02:27
by Dragon029
Just a heads up; I got messaged (nicely for the record) by a representative of Lockheed today, asking that the AIAA papers be removed for copyright reasons. I can't delete the posts because they're too old / other posts have since been made, but I've contacted the mods, so the documents / links to the non-paywalled versions should be deleted soon.

I imagine anyone reading this already has a copy of all of them, but if someone hasn't manages to read this, the documents will still be available at the links mentioned in this post: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=12237&start=310

If you work for a major aerospace company, or if you attend or work for a university, or if you just have access to a local library, check to see if they have free (legal and licensed) access to AIAA's library.

If not, and if you choose to buy some papers, get a membership if you plan on buying multiple; you'll likely save money (depending on the membership type) as members get decent discounts on papers.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jul 2018, 02:55
by SpudmanWP
I was under the impression that papers authored by government employees or written while on the government dime are public domain as long as they were not classified.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jul 2018, 03:14
by Dragon029
The specific language he used was:

"as there has not been permission granted to publish these papers beyond AIAA (as noted by the copyright notice on each paper). I did check with AIAA and they have not received any requests for use/posting elsewhere, either."

Each AIAA paper is also labelled with:

"Copyright © 2018 by Lockheed Martin Corporation. Published by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Inc., with permission."

I'm really not all that knowledgeable on government contractor copyright protection though, so if you want to pursue the matter further I can put you in touch with the guy.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jul 2018, 05:50
by sprstdlyscottsmn
gee, too bad I didn't grab them all earlier. :roll:

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jul 2018, 09:42
by spazsinbad
They are there for the moment - at least for me?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jul 2018, 10:11
by garrya
Lucky for me, I took them all

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 28 Jul 2018, 17:26
by elvis1
Dragon029 wrote:Just a heads up; I got messaged (nicely for the record) by a representative of Lockheed today, asking that the AIAA papers be removed for copyright reasons. I can't delete the posts because they're too old / other posts have since been made, but I've contacted the mods, so the documents / links to the non-paywalled versions should be deleted soon.

I imagine anyone reading this already has a copy of all of them, but if someone hasn't manages to read this, the documents will still be available at the links mentioned in this post: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=12237&start=310

If you work for a major aerospace company, or if you attend or work for a university, or if you just have access to a local library, check to see if they have free (legal and licensed) access to AIAA's library.

If not, and if you choose to buy some papers, get a membership if you plan on buying multiple; you'll likely save money (depending on the membership type) as members get decent discounts on papers.


They are still there at "viewtopic" link in the quote BUT YOU MUST SCROLL DOWN AFTER FOLLOWING THE viewtopic LINK to see them. When I first looked this morning it looked at a glance like all of the pdf links had been replaced by links to AIAA website (but then I realized this was just an earlier post). Scroll Down if you want to see pdf links to know if they have been removed.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 02 Aug 2018, 22:09
by mr.gibbys
I currently have a copy of most of them somewhere in my google drive. Guess I got lucky :D

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 14 Aug 2018, 16:06
by spazsinbad

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 14 Aug 2018, 21:39
by SpudmanWP
Public docs like that always tend to understate performance, just look at the range numbers vs the SAR.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Sep 2018, 21:41
by spazsinbad
11 Sep 2018 LM Fast Facts PDF attached below from: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... s9-183.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2018, 09:18
by spazsinbad
F-35 LRIP 11 FACT SHEET 25 Sep 2018 LM PR attached below.

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... t_2018.pdf (1.1Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2018, 11:00
by spazsinbad
Mashup of FACT Sheet + PR from LM: http://www.jsf.mil/news/docs/20180927_L ... ase_v2.pdf (0.35Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 30 Sep 2018, 04:22
by SpudmanWP
For those of you who had missed the chance to get the June 2018 AIAA F-35 PDFs, LM has posted two of them.

Here are the links and I attached them also.

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/ ... erview.pdf

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/ ... cation.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 01 Oct 2018, 09:45
by weasel1962
My breakdown for lot 11 based on the information thus far

Intl partners (27 A, 1 B ):
UK 1-B
Dutch 8-A, Australia 8-A, Norway 6-A, Turkey 4-A, Italy 1-A

FMS (22 A)
Israel 10-A, Korea 10-A, Japan 2-A

USAF: 53-A
USMC: 24-B
USN: 14-C

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Oct 2018, 18:15
by spazsinbad
160,000 Flight Hours LM F-35 Fast Facts 04 Oct 2018: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... s10-18.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 06 Nov 2018, 05:50
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 LIGHTNING II PROGRAM STATUS AND FAST FACTS 02 Nov 2018 attached:

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... gium_2.pdf
"Total Aircraft Quantities LRIP 1-11: 499 - Flight Hours 165,000+

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Nov 2018, 17:36
by spazsinbad
Don't know if this compendium of DOT&E reports 2002-2015 has been posted before but anyway it is attached below also.

COMPENDIUM OF DOT&E ANNUAL REPORTS: F-35 JSF PROGRAM [2002-2015]

https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.as ... af67b75be3 (PDF 158 pages 4Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Dec 2018, 22:32
by spazsinbad
20 Dec 2018 LM F-35 FAST FACTS: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... c_2018.pdf (1.1Mb)

175,000 hours flown - 355 aircraft delivered - 730+ pilots trained along with 6,700+ maintainers & 16 bases worldwide.

Graphic: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... veries.jpg

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 31 Jan 2019, 21:43
by SpudmanWP
The 2018 DOT&E report is out and it's only 14 pages as compared to 30 in 2017 and 60+ in 2016.

Http://www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/FY2 ... f35jsf.pdf

Primary takeaway:
2017 report had "Over 1000" open deficiencies
2018 report stated 102 as of May 2018, a 90% reduction.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 31 Jan 2019, 22:06
by marsavian
• Assessment

- Based on F-35A gun testing through September 2018,
DOT&E currently considers the accuracy of the gun, as
installed in the F-35A, to be unacceptable.

- F-35A gun accuracy during SDD failed to meet the
contract specification. Although software corrections were made to the F-35 mission systems software to improve the stability of gun aiming cues, no software or hardware corrections have yet been implemented to correct the gun accuracy errors.

- Investigations into the gun mounts of the F-35A revealed misalignments that result in muzzle alignment errors. As a result, the true alignment of each F-35A gun is not known, so the program is considering options for re-boresighting and correcting gun alignments.

- During air-to-air gun testing, F-35A operational test pilots received intermittent “unsafe gun” cockpit alerts while attempting gun attacks. These alerts occurred with two different aircraft; the root cause is under investigation.

- F-35B and F-35C air-to-ground accuracy results to date
with the gun pod have been consistent and meet the
contract specifications. They do not show the accuracy
errors of the internal gun on the F-35A.

Recommendations:

• The program should:
...
5. Determine the cause of the accuracy problems with the F-35A gun firing and implement a solution for increasing gun accuracy for the fielded aircraft.
...

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 31 Jan 2019, 22:39
by spazsinbad
This is an 'amazing' development, an 'engine' running in a hangar, who said the USN are too cautious with F-35C [from DOTE].
"...The Navy approved the use of the F-35 Integrated Power Package (IPP) in the hangar bay for maintenance
purposes, on an interim basis, just prior to the SGR testing onboard CVN 72. This approval will enable more efficient maintenance during deployments, increasing the options for providing electrical power and cooling air to aircraft undergoing maintenance. Squadrons will use temperature sensing devices to ensure that the IPP exhaust, which vents upwards on the F-35C, does not damage hangar bay overhead equipment, cabling, and structure while in use...." p.5

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 02 Feb 2019, 03:37
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts 01 Feb 2019 attached: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... _2019_.pdf

760+ pilots trained - 177,000+ hours flown

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 14 Feb 2019, 17:59
by SpudmanWP
Here is the 2017 Report to Congress on F-35 Concurrency.

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Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 17:28
by sprstdlyscottsmn
My Google-Fu is failing me. I know we have seen charts that showed conditions flown by all three F-35 variants with multi colored dots for different test conditions. Anyone have a copy of that?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 17:51
by spazsinbad
Still lookin' but not quite sure what for but anyway...

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 18:08
by sprstdlyscottsmn
Sorry Spaz, I wasn't too clear. This was effectively a flight envelope diagram made up of colored dots. IIRC blue dots were clean test points, purple were external AA, green were external A-G, and the B had extras to represent Mode IV I believe. There were three diagrams side by side for A, B, and C.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 18:09
by shania
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:My Google-Fu is failing me. I know we have seen charts that showed conditions flown by all three F-35 variants with multi colored dots for different test conditions. Anyone have a copy of that?


Try look into F-35 Aerodynamic Performance Verification 6.2018-3679.pdf

David G. Parsons,1 Austin G. Eckstein,2 and Jeff J. Azevedo3
Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company, Fort Worth, TX, 76101, United States of America

Also some of this charts are in your comparison thread.

Dragon also has something here

https://www.reddit.com/r/F35Lightning/c ... al_papers/

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 18:16
by shania

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Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 18:34
by sprstdlyscottsmn
It's not either of those.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 19:19
by SpudmanWP
This one?

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Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 19:26
by sprstdlyscottsmn
similar but WAY more densely populated and for all three versions.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 21:36
by botsing
This one?

Image

It's from "F-35 System Development and Demonstration Flight Testing at Edwards Air Force Base and Naval Air Station from Patuxent River"

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 21:49
by sprstdlyscottsmn
That's the one! Thanks botsing!

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 22:08
by botsing
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:That's the one! Thanks botsing!

Glad I could help. :thumb:

P.s., that linked image was originally posted by doge.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 22:30
by marsavian
So the F-35A can do Mach 1.55, F-35B/C Mach 1.5, when loaded with external sidewinders. No real degradation.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2019, 22:38
by sprstdlyscottsmn
botsing wrote:P.s., that linked image was originally posted by doge.

I knew it HAD been I just couldn't find it for anything. Now I have it saved offline.

marsavian wrote: So the F-35A can do Mach 1.55, F-35B/C Mach 1.5 when loaded with external sidewinders. No real degradation.

Not quite, they HAVE done 1.55M/1.5M with "external AA".

1: they may be able to go faster and just didn't test it or include the data here. We know an F-35A went to 1.67M but that isn't shown. We know an F-35C went 1.0+M with external AG and that isn't shown.

2: It is NOT a BAD assumption to say that "external AA" means "tip-winders" and nothing else. It COULD mean the Gun Pod for the B/C, it COULD mean AMRAAMs, that much we DON'T KNOW. I think it would be safe to say that External AA is at least the AIM-9Xs.

Just being technical.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Mar 2019, 00:06
by spazsinbad
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:That's the one! Thanks botsing!

:applause: Ditto. So many diagrams - not enough clues. :mrgreen: PDF of main graphic attached & I'll make a 3 x CHART diagram. PDF attached - GIF made from this PDF.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Mar 2019, 02:12
by wrightwing
We know the F-35C went between M1.1+ to M1.2 with 6 GBU-31, 2 AIM-120, and 2 AIM-9X. The A should be even faster. With an A2A only load, there shouldn't be much degradation at all, on top end speeds.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Mar 2019, 11:05
by marsavian
Interesting, so the F-35A/C hit Mach 1.6 at 25kft but the F-35B does it only at 30kft. Why, less thrust ?

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Mar 2019, 14:56
by sprstdlyscottsmn
marsavian wrote:Interesting, so the F-35A/C hit Mach 1.6 at 25kft but the F-35B does it only at 30kft. Why, less thrust ?

It's the lower KCAS limit, not less thrust.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Mar 2019, 14:58
by sprstdlyscottsmn
wrightwing wrote:We know the F-35C went between M1.1+ to M1.2 with 6 GBU-31, 2 AIM-120, and 2 AIM-9X. The A should be even faster. With an A2A only load, there shouldn't be much degradation at all, on top end speeds.

Do we know it went past 1.1M? AFAIK it was 1.0+M. Could have been 1.01M for all I know.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Mar 2019, 19:14
by wrightwing
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:
wrightwing wrote:We know the F-35C went between M1.1+ to M1.2 with 6 GBU-31, 2 AIM-120, and 2 AIM-9X. The A should be even faster. With an A2A only load, there shouldn't be much degradation at all, on top end speeds.

Do we know it went past 1.1M? AFAIK it was 1.0+M. Could have been 1.01M for all I know.

The pilot said M1.1+, when describing the photo and load.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 05 Mar 2019, 19:55
by spazsinbad
USN Test Pilot CMDR 'Brick' Wilson says "Mach 1 plus" in the video kindly provided by 'Dragon029'.

download/file.php?id=25878

Image

Tailhook 2017 Symposium - Update on F-35C testing from LM test pilot [start 60 sec]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSIzWFxznvM


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Unread postPosted: 05 Mar 2019, 20:01
by sprstdlyscottsmn
Right, that's what I remembered. But still, we see no purple dots past 0.95M for any variant even though we know it has been done. The remarkable part to me is the collection of dots around 0.3M at 40,000ft.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Mar 2019, 05:30
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts 05 Mar 2019 : 180,000+ flight hours - 770+ Trained Pilots - 7,100+ Maintainers Trained

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... h_2019.pdf (1.1Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 09 Mar 2019, 10:25
by weasel1962
Note the change in production profile for Mar vs Feb.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2019, 00:59
by marsavian
Inspector General U.S. Department of Defense
Report No. DODIG‑2019‑062
MARCH 13, 2019

Audit of Management of Government‑Owned Property
Supporting the F‑35 Program

https://media.defense.gov/2019/Mar/15/2 ... 19-062.PDF

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Unread postPosted: 16 Mar 2019, 03:07
by spazsinbad
At least there is a remedy for this situation being implemented to the satisfaction of all (when it is finished - one hopes).
DoD inspector general slams F-35 program office for allowing Lockheed to manage government property
15 Mar 2019 Valerie Insinna

"WASHINGTON — The F-35 Joint Program Office has not adequately tracked government property leant or leased to Lockheed Martin and its subcontractors, an oversight that a new investigation by the Defense Department’s inspector general said could impact readiness. Building the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter requires the use of government property such as materiel, special tooling like molds used to form the jet’s structure and unique test equipment.

Over the lifespan of the program, the F-35 JPO has not followed the mandated procedures used to manage government-furnished property, or GFP, and instead depended on Lockheed and its subcontractors to keep track of such equipment, stated a DoD IG report released Friday. [see link in 'marsavian' post immediately above here]

“As a result, the DoD does not know the actual value of the F‑35 property and does not have an independent record to verify the contractor‑valued government property of $2.1 billion for the F‑35 program,” the report said. “Without accurate records, the F‑35 Program officials have no visibility over the property and have no metrics to hold the prime contractor accountable for how it manages government property.

“The lack of asset visibility restricts the DoD’s ability to conduct the necessary checks and balances that ensure the prime contractor is managing and spending F‑35 Program funds in the government’s best interest and could impact the DoD’s ability to meet its operational readiness goals for the F‑35 aircraft.”...

...The IG, in its report, said it was satisfied with the corrective actions proposed by the JPO, but that it would review their implementation at a later date. Creating a record of government property will not be as simple as copying over Lockheed Martin’s record.

Lockheed estimates there are 3.45 million pieces of government property used for the F-35 program, and that equipment is worth an estimated $2.1 billion. However, its records are not written to the same standard that the Defense Department mandates. For instance, federal regulations require that government records keep track of the contract number associated with a given piece of GFE, while Lockheed did not include that information. Other data recorded by the company — such as the name of a part or its quantity — were incomplete by Pentagon standards."

Source: https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/03 ... -property/

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 17 Mar 2019, 19:21
by steve2267
The horror -- the squeal of the gummint bean counting bureaucrats...

However, its records are not written to the same standard that the Defense Department mandates.


LM prolly saving the gummint $$ by not dotting every i to the nth degree. Expect costs to rise once the bureaucratic bean counters get their fangs into the program.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Apr 2019, 20:52
by spazsinbad
LM FAST FACTS dated 10 April 2019 ONLY ONE PAGE made available by LM attached below from: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... s_4_19.pdf

190,000+ flying hours with 790+ pilots trained along with 7,200+ maintainers & Total Aircraft Quantities LRIP 1-11: 499

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 21 Apr 2019, 21:58
by spazsinbad
Now USUAL TWO page PDF LM F-35 Fast Facts dated 17 Apr 2019 (1.1Mb) attached below:

https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 4_19_2.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 May 2019, 04:45
by spazsinbad

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 13 May 2019, 18:16
by spazsinbad
GAO - WEAPON SYSTEMS ANNUAL ASSESSMENT [2 page summary PDF attached - part of text excerpted below etc.]
May 2019 GAO

"F-35 Program - Technology Maturity and Design Stability
All of the F-35’s critical technologies are mature and the baseline engineering drawings are complete for all three aircraft variants. The program office completed the final development test flights for the baseline program in April 2018, but continues to address over 900 deficiencies identified with the aircraft’s performance prior to the end of development testing. For example, the program is developing a new helmet mounted display, which will resolve an existing green glow effect that can distort a pilot’s vision during night time carrier landings. Program officials expect installation of some of the new displays in 2019. The program office is also testing and integrating software updates to resolve other deficiencies, but it did not fully resolve over 800 other deficiencies prior to the start of operational testing. The program obtained a waiver from the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment to start operational testing prior to fully resolving these deficiencies. Program officials stated that they expect to continue resolving these deficiencies through the start of full rate production in October 2019.

Program officials continue to identify and address technical risks, some of which are specific to individual variants of the F-35. For example, we reported last year that a problem with the F-35’s main fuel throttle valve caused the aircraft to move suddenly and without stopping until the engine is shut down. In 2018, the program implemented software changes to fix this problem. Also, across all variants, pilots have reported experiencing extreme pressure in the cockpit during certain flight maneuvers. Contractor representatives told us they have identified the root cause of the excessive cockpit pressure and will implement a minor hardware change in 2019 to address the issue. Recently, following the crash of an F-35B in October 2018, the program grounded the F-35 fleet to inspect all of its engines. An investigation determined a manufacturing defect caused an engine fuel tube to rupture during flight, resulting in a loss of power to the engine. The program office reported that it identified 117 aircraft with the same type of fuel tubes that it must replace. According to program officials, the grounding generally did not impact the delivery of the aircraft, as the contractor has provided replacement fuel tubes that were installed on a majority of the affected aircraft by the end of 2018.

Production Readiness
As of December 2018, the prime contractor has delivered 264 production aircraft. Since the start of production, F-35 contractors have refined their production processes to improve manufacturing efficiency and quality. However, the prime contractor has identified quality control and late radar deliveries as the top production risks in the program. For example, because of supplier identified limitations, the prime contractor continues to fix gaps between adjacent aircraft surface panels attached to the airframe. These fixes are needed to meet low observable (stealth) performance requirements. The contractor is working with its supplier to resolve the problem through improved production processes as the program approaches its full-rate production decision in October 2019...."

Source: https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/698933.pdf (9.4Mb)

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 17 May 2019, 11:23
by spazsinbad
Another LM F-35 Fast Facts Dated 15 May 2019: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 5_2019.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 17 May 2019, 20:57
by playloud
It looks like the only change from the 10 May version was they fixed a typo.

10 May: Japan's IOC listed 3/29
15 May: Japan's IOC listed 3/19

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 06 Jun 2019, 02:40
by spazsinbad
04 Jun 2019 LM F-35 Fast Facts: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... e_2019.pdf (1.1Mb)

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Unread postPosted: 10 Jun 2019, 11:52
by Dragon029
Japanese Ministry of Defense official report on the F-35A crash that occurred April 9th, 2019: https://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/news/houdou/H31/20190610.pdf

I'm attaching two documents; the first is a raw Google translation of the report's text (created using Google Translate's 'translate document' function):
20190610 Google Translated.pdf
Basic Google Translation of the Japanese report
(1.15 MiB) Downloaded 479 times


The second document is my semi-manual interpretation of the report - I do not speak / read Japanese, but what I've done is used Google translate on paragraphs, individual sentences, phrases and even words or characters to get a better understanding of what the actual meaning is behind the Japanese text, then I've re-written it in English as closely as possible while maintaining half-decent grammar and edited it back into the original PDF, including with the graphics on the last 2 pages:
20190610 Japanese MOD report on F-35A crash English interpretation.pdf
Semi-manual English interpretation of the Japanese report
(922.14 KiB) Downloaded 789 times

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Unread postPosted: 10 Jun 2019, 12:08
by spazsinbad
Thanks for that 'Dragon029'. One can become accustomed to the left descending turn initial sensation and then (without looking at or believing instruments) think that this 'state of flight' is straight and level. Then to continue left descending turn one makes even more left descending turn rates erroneously - this is one example of SD IF I have imagined correctly.

OOPs should have kept reading because there are diagrams showing the steps etc. RoD increases dramatically - yikes!

Point a jet towards the surface (engine at idle/ some rpm/ full)? WATCH OUT!
"...4. Measures:
(1) For the likely cause of "spatial disorientation", implement measures:
A. Spatial awareness education for F-35A pilots.
B. Training with spatial awareness training equipment and simulators for F-35A pilots.

(2) For the very unlikely, but still possible, causes of G-LOC unconsciousness,
or problems with aircraft engine control, maneuvering or electrical systems:
A. Education for all F-35A pilots on loss of consciousnes due to G-LOC.
B. Perform special inspections of F-35A fighters (engine controls, steering and electrical systems)…."

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 10 Jun 2019, 17:13
by SpudmanWP
Here is an extensive PDF that just came out on June 7th that goes over the F-35's AGCAS testing.

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 11 Jun 2019, 01:34
by outlaw162
Two entries initially caught my attention, (all the dots made me dizzy):

"Some Testing is Best Left to the Simulator" :shock:

The "Tower Flyby" Scenario....Is that to visually check gear position....or C model only to get the controller to spill his coffee? :D

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 22 Jun 2019, 06:28
by spazsinbad

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Unread postPosted: 11 Jul 2019, 01:02
by spazsinbad

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Unread postPosted: 03 Aug 2019, 19:59
by spazsinbad
https://media.defense.gov/2019/Aug/01/2 ... R-2018.PDF (0.9Mb)
Department of Defense - Comprehensive Selected Acquisition Reports for the Annual 2018 Reporting Requirement as Updated by the President’s Fiscal Year 2020 Budget [edited 3 pages to ONLY the F-35 attached below]

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 08 Aug 2019, 01:27
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts PDF 06 Aug 2019: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 2019_2.pdf

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 16 Sep 2019, 09:30
by spazsinbad
SepFacts are here today: but attached below for the continuing record (because they disappear after awhile otherwise).

by 'weasel1962' viewtopic.php?f=58&t=13143&p=426601&hilit=commercial#p426601

Re: F-35 Program Docs

Unread postPosted: 04 Oct 2019, 06:23
by spazsinbad
LM F-35 Fast Facts 03 Oct 2019 attached below: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... 0_2019.pdf (1.6Mb)