F-35C Lands at Lakehurst For Testing

Production milestones, roll-outs, test flights, service introduction and other milestones.
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by blindpilot » 23 Mar 2017, 21:48

spazsinbad wrote:PHOTO from online article of the Magic Carpet Trainer: http://navalaviationnews.navylive.dodli ... 76_web.jpg


Hmmmm ... what do you practice with Magic Carpet? Not kicking the stick with your crossed leg, or dropping your donut, or spilling your coffee while HAL lands the plane?

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by spazsinbad » 29 Mar 2017, 05:44

The MAGII have to keep lineup then depending on mode mebbe somat else. Then there are some deedle deedless prolly to worry about & also there are NEW HUD symbols to adjust monocles too - but I have not been there to dun that. Except olde schoole manual carrier approach landings required - for lineup corrections (usually a nibble to the right if one is on the centreline with the angle deck centreline always moving from left to right during the approach) some power/AoA corrections depending on control characteristics of the approaching aircraft at Optimum Angle of Attack. The A-4 was quite good in this regard with lightning aileron control at that speed but delta wing meant power adjustments etc. Meanwhile:

Good summation of recent items about the CARPET CLEANING SERVICE from the FoxyALPHa: [internal links follow - good]
'Magic Carpet' Will Make Landing On An Aircraft Carrier So Much Easier
24 Mar 2017 Terrell Jermaine Starr

"...The [MAGIC CARPET] system takes on many of the stressful aspects of aircraft carrier landing, like having to gauge the course of landing with the moving ship and all of the things the pilot has to consider while doing it, such as adding and reducing power, adjusting the pitch, yaw and roll, as USNI News explains. Instead, the pilot simply controls the flight path....

...When Magic Carpet is switched on, the pilot no longer directly controls the flaps, throttle, and so on. Instead, he or she chooses a path and the computer makes the fine adjustments to get and stay on it. Affecting one aspect of flight — angle, speed, alignment, and so on — still affects the others, but the pilot can focus on one at a time while the computer keeps the others under control. The pilot remains a crucial part of the system....

Source; http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/magic- ... 1793618342


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by neptune » 29 Mar 2017, 06:53

blindpilot wrote:[....., or dropping your donut, or spilling your coffee while HAL lands the plane?
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...gee I thought I had asked this question before?? maybe elsewhere??...the X-47B is short a pilot and lands with the aid of JPALS so.....the F-/A types with the "Autoland" programs and the feedback from JPALS on the ship.....does this lead to the coffee and donuts scenario????....just asking????

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by spazsinbad » 29 Mar 2017, 07:48

Last we heard about JPALS on that thread - it will ONLY be for the F-35 & MQ-25 - no Shornets - no Soup on the Carpet.

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14115&p=354644&hilit=SEAPOWER#p354644
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viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14115&p=358043&hilit=SEAPOWER#p358043


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by spazsinbad » 07 Apr 2017, 19:53

ORIGINAL version with lots more extraneous stuff (helos and flipitygibits) is on previous page but thought to just edit it:

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=15767&p=362432&hilit=jpNwpvslMig#p362432



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by spazsinbad » 08 Apr 2017, 05:02

This time it is AOPA VG+* (not JOPA - Junior Officer Protection Association) trying the MAGIC Carpet. 17 Mar 2017



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by spazsinbad » 08 May 2017, 10:56

New Carrier Landing Tech Wows Pilots on First Deployment
08 May 2017 Hope Hodge Seck

"ABOARD THE USS GEORGE H. W. BUSH, PERSIAN GULF — After eight hours in the cockpit executing airstrikes on ISIS targets, fighter pilots assigned to this carrier are getting a little extra help as they come in for a landing.... ...How much more precise? So much, pilots attached to the ship told Military.com, that it’s causing their arresting cables to wear unevenly....

...With PLM [Precision Landing Mode formerly MAGIC CARPET] flight control logic, the descending F/A-18 Hornet or E/A-18 Growler will use its flaps to help control rate of descent, allowing for a more consistent throttle speed and fewer manual corrections.

On the Bush, a Nimitz-class carrier, pilots have 786 feet of flight deck to work with, less than a tenth of a traditional runway length. But the requirements of landing are far more precise; pilots told Military.com they needed to fly the nose of the aircraft through a an imaginary box about one foot across in order to properly align their descent and snag a landing cable. On a dark night, Hornet pilots have described the experience of executing such a landing on a carrier as “emotional.” [whilst they are hypoxic - cool]

One pilot assigned to the wing’s Strike Fighter Squadron 87, the Golden Warriors, which flies the F/A-18E Super Hornet, said the use of the new technology had caused accuracy rates to skyrocket — so much so that the target arresting cable, usually the second of three on the Bush, was wearing out faster than the others and had to be rotated. “We were statistically too accurate,” said “JoJo,” the training officer for VFA-87, who asked to be identified by his callsign....

...The system is currently planned for a 2019 full roll-out to Super Hornet and Growler squadrons across the Navy. McCall said the only element the current system lacked was full redundancy as a fail-safe.

“Because it doesn’t have full redundancy, we still expect our youngest aviators to come out of our training pipeline and learn how to fly the jet manually, so they have a baseline to fall back on in case of some sort of aircraft malfunction,” he said. “I do expect those requirements to change as the system is fully redundant.”

PLM doesn’t guarantee a perfect landing or take the pilot out of the game, however. During observation of daytime carrier landings May 3 and 4, Military.com saw at least one bolter, when an aircraft fails to snag an arresting hook, and multiple wave-offs, in which planes weren’t correctly aligned in their approach and were told to circle and try again.

Nor does it take the fun out of flying, JoJo said. Only one pilot in the entire air wing didn’t love the system, he said, and that pilot did not have much experience on it. Nostalgia for the old way of landing was essentially nonexistent, he said...."

Source: https://www.defensetech.org/2017/05/08/ ... ws-pilots/


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by neptune » 08 May 2017, 23:21

spazsinbad wrote:
New Carrier Landing Tech Wows Pilots on First Deployment
08 May 2017 Hope Hodge Seck

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...it's great to hear of the success of that SBug program and hopefully that will translate into the anticipated success of the similar (Delta Flight Path) program for the F-35C pilots.
:cheers:
:applause:


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by zerion » 11 May 2017, 17:23

US Navy's F-35 Capable Aircraft Carrier Undergoing Sea Trials

US Navy’s USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier that will be able to operate Lockheed Martin F-35C Joint Strike Fighters on its deck is undergoing sea trials.

The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier has returned at sea for the first time in more than four years, US Navy announced Tuesday.
The hundred-thousand-ton vessel is undergoing sea trials after completing her refueling complex overhaul (RCOH), which happens once at the twenty-five-year halfway point of a carrier’s fifty-year lifespan.

Lincoln is the first carrier in the US Navy’s fleet that will be able to operate Lockheed Martin F-35C Joint Strike Fighters from its decks with the completion of its forty-nine-and-a-half-month overhaul.

“USS Abraham Lincoln has undergone significant combat systems modernization and will also be the first CVN capable of accommodating the F-35C Lightning II,” Rear Adm. Brian Antonio, Naval Sea Systems Command’s program executive officer for aircraft carriers, said...

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/19263/ ... RSQ8etHarU


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by neptune » 11 May 2017, 18:27

zerion wrote:
US Navy's F-35 Capable Aircraft Carrier Undergoing Sea Trials

US Navy’s USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier that will be able to operate Lockheed Martin F-35C Joint Strike Fighters on its deck is undergoing sea trials.

The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier has returned at sea for the first time in more than four years, US Navy announced Tuesday.
The hundred-thousand-ton vessel is undergoing sea trials after completing her refueling complex overhaul (RCOH), which happens once at the twenty-five-year halfway point of a carrier’s fifty-year lifespan.

Lincoln is the first carrier in the US Navy’s fleet that will be able to operate Lockheed Martin F-35C Joint Strike Fighters from its decks with the completion of its forty-nine-and-a-half-month overhaul.

“USS Abraham Lincoln has undergone significant combat systems modernization and will also be the first CVN capable of accommodating the F-35C Lightning II,” Rear Adm. Brian Antonio, Naval Sea Systems Command’s program executive officer for aircraft carriers, said...

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/19263/ ... RSQ8etHarU


...it'll be good to have the "Sea" come aboard the Linc and show the CAW how it will enhance their strike and deterrence capabilities!

....is CVW-1 waiting for Linc to go back to sea?

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by spazsinbad » 24 May 2017, 23:05

Flight Ready: MAGIC CARPET RIDE
NAVAIRSYSCOM Published on May 23, 2017

“Speeding innovation to the fleet: Naval Air Systems Command engineers develop an in-house solution to fill a training gap for naval aviators learning to land on an aircraft carrier with Magic Carpet. See how some of the youngest members of the workforce helped make the "RIDE" possible.”


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by popcorn » 24 May 2017, 23:28

neptune wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:
New Carrier Landing Tech Wows Pilots on First Deployment
08 May 2017 Hope Hodge Seck

...]



...it's great to hear of the success of that SBug program and hopefully that will translate into the anticipated success of the similar (Delta Flight Path) program for the F-35C pilots.
:cheers:
:applause:


Cee pilots were wearing out the targeted arrestor cables in tests so no suspense really.
"When a fifth-generation fighter meets a fourth-generation fighter—the [latter] dies,”
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by quicksilver » 25 May 2017, 20:19

neptune wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:
New Carrier Landing Tech Wows Pilots on First Deployment
08 May 2017 Hope Hodge Seck

...]



...it's great to hear of the success of that SBug program and hopefully that will translate into the anticipated success of the similar (Delta Flight Path) program for the F-35C pilots.
:cheers:
:applause:


MAGIC CARPET is simply the SH branding of what was first implemented in F-35C. It was/is called Delta Flight Path and evidence of same was demonstrated in the pre-DT-1 shore-based work-ups and the DT-1 event at-sea in 2014. Buddy Denham and others from NAVAIR substantially involved.

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=84481


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by spazsinbad » 26 May 2017, 04:19

Aircraft Carrier - Online Trailer [HD]
Published on May 22, 2017 k2communications

"The mission to protect and defend the world's oceans has become far more complex and challenging in recent years, and naval aviation has become increasingly vital to success. One of the greatest engineering feats in history, the modern U.S. nuclear carrier is a masterpiece of technology, and the flagship of the fleet. With RIMPAC, the world’s largest and most comprehensive international maritime training exercise providing a stunning visual context for the story, find yourself aboard the carrier alongside the 5,000 highly skilled sea and air personnel conducting flight operations in the midst of the simulated war exercises taking place there...."



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